100% do not want a player with his injury record.
Why not Torres?
Why not Torres?
Ibrahima Konate’
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If that's what he means then ok, I don't think that makes them as a whole club, more "football people" led, we don't have a DOF, but we've got a different structure. But I don't see many Liverpool fans blowing smoke up their arses and calling them football people
some will praise literally anyone to get a dig in.That’s what I think too. We’re a well run club and a good team, good coach etc. A loss and a draw later and everyone else is the epitome of well run clubs!If that's what he means then ok, I don't think that makes them as a whole club, more "football people" led, we don't have a DOF, but we've got a different structure. But I don't see many Liverpool fans blowing smoke up their arses and calling them football people
I have watched Konaté several times this season and from what I've seen, I've been far from impressed. Besides his obvious injury record and lack of positional awareness that comes with more experience, I think he's clumsy and slow in his movements and thus prone to errors like silly fouls and penalties. He has good top speed but lacks the agility you would want from a defender in a high line able to defend 1v1. I don't think these shortcomings are to be tought, and I don't see these attributes or lack of as a good partnership to Maguire.
My ideal candidate is therefore Koundé, as he good on the ball, fast, strong, good arial ability despite of his height, impressive positional awareness, and very agile.
My ideal candidate is therefore Koundé, as he good on the ball, fast, strong, good arial ability despite of his height, impressive positional awareness, and very agile.
If that's what he means then ok, I don't think that makes them as a whole club, more "football people" led, we don't have a DOF, but we've got a different structure. But I don't see many Liverpool fans blowing smoke up their arses and calling them football people
I was referring to this Michael Edwards guy who annoyingly just seems to get deals done without much fuss
In my humble opinion, we will also get deals done early mate but we need stability at the club. Edwards before Klopp arrived was getting criticized by the Liverpool fans for his poor signings. But under Klopp they signed players for a specific way of playing the game which entails fast transitions/high tempo football.
Harry Pinero who is a United fan, had Konate on his YouTube channel.
Now there is a CB partnership I could get on board with but would never happen in a million years
You never know mate. Harry Pinero seems to be working on a deal for Konate and hopefully Woodward and Judge can show Ramos the way to the theatre.
I think that signing a centre back should be our top priority. We need somebody to come straight into the first team and play regularly to form a partnership. We have conceded far too many goals so far this season, an improvement in defence will see is turn draws into wins and move further up the table.
I guess you can say this about most transfers but we need to avoid another situation where is takes our new signing 12 months to adjust to the league and find some form. We need a Bruno type impact, which is hard to achieve but more probable if we follow some logic.
-We need him ready to play from day one, so he needs to be fit and playing regularly with no recent injury problems.
-If we want a player to play well immediately then they should already be in good form and full of confidence.
-We want consistency, which you very rarely get from young players.
I guess you can say this about most transfers but we need to avoid another situation where is takes our new signing 12 months to adjust to the league and find some form. We need a Bruno type impact, which is hard to achieve but more probable if we follow some logic.
-We need him ready to play from day one, so he needs to be fit and playing regularly with no recent injury problems.
-If we want a player to play well immediately then they should already be in good form and full of confidence.
-We want consistency, which you very rarely get from young players.
We'd be nuts to sign him. Look at his injury record. We can't afford another Jones or Bailly.
I agree. The injuries will ruin him, he already lost valuable time in his improvement due to being injured so much at a young age.
He’s been in place for a while now(2016), so it’s not ‘just seems to’. Five years on some of it is working well. Ultimately it’s Klopp who calls the shots on who he wants though.
Basically this. Think he's got so much potential, but we shouldn't be taking the risk on some one that injury prone. For all Maguire's faults, it's been very nice having a consistently fit CB.
My worry about konate is that if we don’t get him now with his release clause at 40m we will be quoted 80m next time we go back, or Liverpool snap him up to play beside vvd
He has a very dodgy record re injury. In the most physical league in Europe right now that’s going to place even more demands on his body. Yes, he’s a better defender than Upemecano but maybe there’s a good reason BM went for the latter.
I think the main reason was probably his superior passing. Konate is a better defender and stronger aerially, but Upamecano has the potential to be one of the top ball playing defenders in the world.
We don't play possession football and never will under Solskjaer - Konate is a better fit for us, in my view.
Just like last Bundesliga game, he was on the bench yesterday vs Liverpool. Why? Is he still not fully fit from his last injury?
There could be a multitude of reasons why they went for Upemecano. Obviously we’d have to check his injuries very carefully and perhaps put him on a management plan. But look, Pallister played with a bad back, in fact United installed a special bed on the team bus just for him. Ledley king played for years as did Paul McGrath with dodgy knees. Neither of them trained full time to save them for match days yet both were among the best ever cbs in the PL.
equally he could be unlucky like Jones but for 40m I’d take the risk
Unfortunately I think his injury record makes this a gamble we cant afford currently. Two years injury free and I think he'd be a great fit for us, but a spotless injury record needs to come first and foremost among the priorities for our new CB.
Shame as he seems a very talented defender.
Shame as he seems a very talented defender.
My biggest worry with him is he ends up getting the same injury problems that have plagued Bailly
Has anyone mentioned his injury record yet?
His in**** record is why I've gone cold on this one, we suck in that department, and after having the taste of a healthy CB like Maguire, that's what we should be aiming for.
David Ornstein saying LFC have made big strides in signing Konate.
Reported to be around £35 million. Potentially a great deal if he stays fit but that seems a big if.
Hard to argue with the price though.
Hard to argue with the price though.
Another defensive crock. Just what they need.
No big loss with his injury record, good player but never got the hype looks slightly clumsy on the ball and bit too reliant on his physicality.
Brilliant price, but you'd think they'd be a bit wary of such injury prone players. They seem to collect them now.
Meh would have liked him here. Although his injuries are a concern. Good price though. But frustrating that Ed only comes to life in the last week of every transfer window.
Ed is no longer in charged for that anymore now.
Yeah I doubt anything will change under that Murtough guy. Been part of that failing system for years.
Price is set by his €40M release clause is it not?
Murtough was in charged with our youth and woman’s team before so he wasn’t part of that you called failing system. So we don’t know whether it will still be the same system or no.
Yeah you’re right.
I had seen a tweet saying a deal for €40 million had been agreed but I’ve now just seen The Athletic post that’s the price Liverpool are paying to match Konate’s release clause.
Still a good piece of business all things considered if he stays injury free. Which, again, is a big if.
Fits the exact profile Klopp seems to want in a CB though.
Seems good as a 1vs1 defender, might have to develop a bit on the ball mind you judging by the stats in the article in the Athletic.
I read an article detailing that it was aerial dominance (and speed) Klopp valued in a CB because it allows him to push the defence up high and box the opposition in.
The natural response to a high press is to kick it long but if you’re punting the ball to two CBs like Konate and VVD it’s coming straight back.
Konate obviously has both traits in abundance which I guess Klopp thinks more than makes up for perceived weaknesses on the ball.
This will suck if true and he stays fit. Konaté and VVD I feel sad even just thinking about how much they are going to dominate people.
Going to Liverpool it seems, might become an excellent defender for them.
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