Id go as far as to say I hope he's set upon by a gang one night.Chased for miles in fear of his life,knowing he cant get away but having to run anyway as its his only option.When they catch him the really do him over while I stand there and take photos.He's a pest so its justified.
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Id go as far as to say I hope he's set upon by a gang one night.Chased for miles in fear of his life,knowing he cant get away but having to run anyway as its his only option.When they catch him the really do him over while I stand there and take photos.He's a pest so its justified.
where do you get off bragging you made money from the photo's??
So basically, it is ok to post and get personal when you agree with the majority, however, if you have a differing opinion and put your point across in a fair manner when people ask you to justify it, you aren't having respect?
Ok, it isn't you; it's the rest of the world that's crazy.
Some people believe racism is acceptable.
And you support hunting.
I haven't said that at all. I have offered my opinion, and been challenged. I could have back down, and I would have been called out for hiding. I have a lose lose situation. As it happens, I feel standing up and answering people's questions is a far better way of dealing with it.
You never answered this question.
Where I got off, well you got personal about me taking pictures. I thought you may like to know a bit about why I did them.
You can't justify it
Not in your opinion.
On the field of conflict both sides have some chance-the fox has none.There are levels of what is acceptable.News systems will and do print war pictures so its ok to take them,public executions for example are beyond publication so not acceptable.The hunt is a form of execution.
You were asked not to print the pics so you did and they were removed.As you knew these were offensive why then go on to brag about them?
Not in anyones opinion on here except yours!!!
Fair enough. How do you feel about other profiting from misery across the world?
This site is ambiguous as to who is a mod, it took me questioning you to find out you were one. If I had known previously you were acting as the interest of the site over being some over sensitive so and so, I would probably have listened. That is not so much you fault, as the way the site is run. On the website I moderate, it is clear who is a mod and who isn't.
Although non of the pictures I posted showed anything distressing.
And the Caf represents the popular opinion of the United Kingdom of Great Britain?
Can't be bothered to read through a whole 6 pages on unadulterated shit about hunting, but I don't see why Saints can't post his pictures, or express his opinion, without some mod/admin being up his ass like a dildo.
Elizabeth is basically assuming that, based upon her experiences and the caf, that people don't like foxhunting. It's a stupid generalization that makes no sense, and you're arguing a point based on most subjective arguments rather than objective arguments that are clear and concise without all that "it's barbaric" rhetoric.
Elizabeth is basically assuming that, based upon her experiences and the caf, that people don't like foxhunting. It's a stupid generalization that makes no sense, and you're arguing a point based on most subjective arguments rather than objective arguments that are clear and concise without all that "it's barbaric" rhetoric.
This thread has too many chumps in it.
My own views are clear on this matter.
My own views are clear on this matter.
Elizabeths opinion is based on much more than the caf's comments-please read the thread before commenting.
No it doesnt it represents the views of the people with whom you chose to share your sad little boasts.Why not delete your account here and join a hunting forum insted?
They don't support United.
out of interest do the children you said attend join in the hunt and what is there role?
Stop being a bitch
He loves hunting, it's a hobby. Maybe when he kills an animal he doesn't associate it with all this moral and ethical garbage that you're throwing in his face
Elizabeth said:
So this isn't just some stupid subjective point of view? You're basically calling him a tap-head without giving him any valuable, scientific, mathematic, or mesurable reason why hunting animals is bad. Lacing your reply with words liek "blood thirsty" and "sick" doesn't give it any credence either, you spanner.
How do you know how the animals feel when they are shot? Maybe they are shot in their head so that they feel no pain. The thing is that you have never hunted an animal, and have never experienced it, so you aren't in a position to be throwing all this sentimental nomenclature that makes you seem like some animal warrior.
They make up the field, which is the big following. They are out getting experience jumping fences and testing what they learn in the riding school.
First off Ive seen hunts close up-have you?I sure hope so or youre going to look stupid(not for the first time in your life I suspect)
Why are you not questioning any of the points made dismissing his claims its humain etc?
He claims its not just killing an animal for a hobby-what a shame you didnt read the thread before making such a tit of yourself!!!
Is hunting really such a sensitive subject in the UK or is it just the caf?
Just recieved a PM from Ms. Spazmo herself 
Woman, you don't even know what I know about the subject. I've lived in places where poaching has become commonplace, and I've seen many animals die due at the hands of humans
It's called evolution, woman, live with it. Humans are the dominant species, and have more power, so that means that as long as we kill animals, whether for food or for other purposes (even pleasure), it's a cycle. So all this rambling on about how you've "seen" and "lived" doesn't really faze me.
Elizabeth said:
Woman, you don't even know what I know about the subject. I've lived in places where poaching has become commonplace, and I've seen many animals die due at the hands of humans
It's called evolution, woman, live with it. Humans are the dominant species, and have more power, so that means that as long as we kill animals, whether for food or for other purposes (even pleasure), it's a cycle. So all this rambling on about how you've "seen" and "lived" doesn't really faze me.
No, it is highly charged in the UK.
Yes, I've seen shootings close up, and I don't see your fecking problem
It's not you you can start some kind of "don't kill animals" brigade that will stop people from leisurely hunting or even poaching
Do you think it is a good enviroment for a child? Are they close enough to the actual hunt to have an effect?
Just recieved a PM from Ms. Spazmo herself
Woman, you don't even know what I know about the subject. I've lived in places where poaching has become commonplace, and I've seen many animals die due at the hands of humans
It's called evolution, woman, live with it. Humans are the dominant species, and have more power, so that means that as long as we kill animals, whether for food or for other purposes (even pleasure), it's a cycle. So all this rambling on about how you've "seen" and "lived" doesn't really faze me.
Youve recieved an infraction now.
Poaching isnt a hunt and dont use the word 'woman' whilst what you see as talking down to me you silly little tw*t.
Elizabeth said:Dear Suprah™,
You have received an infraction at RedCafe.net.
Reason: being sexist
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Youre being a 'twat' and twice you use the word 'woman' to be patronising.Youre not interested in the debate just in shit-stirring.
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This infraction is worth 2 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
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Just recieved a PM from Ms. Spazmo herself
Elizabeth said:
Woman, you don't even know what I know about the subject. I've lived in places where poaching has become commonplace, and I've seen many animals die due at the hands of humans
It's called evolution, woman, live with it. Humans are the dominant species, and have more power, so that means that as long as we kill animals, whether for food or for other purposes (even pleasure), it's a cycle. So all this rambling on about how you've "seen" and "lived" doesn't really faze me.
All the best,
RedCafe.net
Jaysus
When she can't make a well articulated argument she infracts me
This is a perfectly good debate to which you contributed nothing valid,then threw in the word 'woman' as some kind of insult?Keep going,you'll be banned quicker than fox hunting.
I have suffered no affliction to seeing some terrible things in relation to animal death. If anything, it has prepared me for the harshness of the real world.
Most of the killing, the field is about 200 yards away, only about 5-10 people will take the bird and hounds to "get" the fox.
And you you're stupid arguments have more credence that mine? And what's this about banning me?
All I've done is state an argument, which is that there's no reason to start acting like an animal warrior when a person says that they have a hobby that is hunting. You're basically indirectly implying that his hobby, which is something he values, is cruel, and so you're implying that he's cruel, which also implies that he's not a "proper" human being, which is wrong
What you've done is you've drawn from a load of nonsensical experiences with grandaddy and grandmommy and thrown them into the thread to act like you know more about animal hunting that me or Saints, which you wouldn't know, as you haven't met either of us
All I've done is state an argument, which is that there's no reason to start acting like an animal warrior when a person says that they have a hobby that is hunting. You're basically indirectly implying that his hobby, which is something he values, is cruel, and so you're implying that he's cruel, which also implies that he's not a "proper" human being, which is wrong
What you've done is you've drawn from a load of nonsensical experiences with grandaddy and grandmommy and thrown them into the thread to act like you know more about animal hunting that me or Saints, which you wouldn't know, as you haven't met either of us
P.S. I'll use the word "w*man" at my own fecking discretion
Is this some type of autocratic system here, where admins feel like they can hand out bans for anything when they're put up against the wall in an argument?
Is this some type of autocratic system here, where admins feel like they can hand out bans for anything when they're put up against the wall in an argument?
Ive seen a hunt closer up than you have and from what he's put on here
from closer than he has too-thats what my argument is based on.
Yeah its cruel,if someone came on here and bragged about seeing someone getting chased and beaten more than the majority would think its sick and wrong.He came on here thinking everyone would be impressed with his hunting tales and was shocked to find noone else supports it.
As both my grandparents are dead Ill thank you to show them some respect.
Why have you picked up on noone elses posts?Noone agrees with him yet its just me you want to argue with-why is that?Ahh so you can plead 'the nasty mod gave me points?'whinge away...
had a go at me' bs?
Ill hand out points at my discretion.
Ive got a valid argument,you by your own admission jumped in at the end for whatever reason.Sadly though,yeah the mods are incharge here to some degree.Dont like it?
Hmm I don't think I can agree with you that it is beneficial not enough to warrant what has to be done to achieve those benefits.
Do you think making it a spectacle by involving so many people is neccessary though? If 5-10 people are all that is needed then that is all there should be.
I'm sure we will all sleep better knowing that.
Yes, and you have the proof from where?
Elizabeth said:
So based upon the caf's views no one else supports animal hunting?
What unadulterated shit. Why are you correlating humans and animals again? They are a completely different species, and one is greater than the other in almost every sense (that is the power of mind, the power to discern; ergo, to live without basing their lives solely on biological instinct). So because no one supports his "hunting tales" on an internet forum it's a bad hobby and he's "bloodthirsty"?Elizabeth said:
Is that meant to make me feel something? What's with all this sentimental garbage that you keep throwing at people?I don't care about your grandparents, just like none of you care about mine, and frankly posting that your grandparents are dead doesn't make you special. My grandparents are dead too, so does that mean I have to start posting some "show my granddaddy and grandmommy some respect" statements all over the place?
Elizabeth said:Why have you picked up on noone elses posts?Noone agrees with him yet its just me you want to argue with-why is that?Ahh so you can plead 'the nasty mod gave me points?'whinge away...
had a go at me' bs?
Maybe it's because you're the one who instigated the Animal Warrior Brigade in this thread
Potentially, yes, however, there are people (and note, I have not at any point in this thread agreed or disagreed to this point) who do enjoy going on a hunt. Not particularly for the hunt itself, but it is a time when riders from different stables in the area meet and socialise. The meet is one of the most splendid things I have witnessed, beautiful horses, and very welcoming people.
What about fishing? Why is that accepted as a hobby?
a) What interaction is there between Badgers and Cattle? Do you know that this is the main source of cattle infection?
b) even if it is perhaps some sort of immunisation program is in order, and,
c) studies have shown that 10 years of culling (not hunting mind) have only had a limited efffect on cattle TB and has actually increased infections in non-culled areas by 25%, by displacing badgers.
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