Hugo Lloris

phelans shorts said:
You must have watched a different Mignolet than I did, he was incredibly blunder prone at Sunderland. Lovren at Southampton wasn't much better.
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In the season before he went to Liverpool Mignolet was very good. Win their player of the year if I recall. Agree he was "blunder prone" in the seasons before though.
 
Carl said:
This forum is great for nit picking. I remember Neuer's game getting picked apart by many on here when we were linked before he went to Bayern.

Lloris is an excellent keeper and we would struggle to get a better replacement.
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All about opinions, makes too many mistakes to be considered a top keeper for me.
 
Carl said:
This forum is great for nit picking. I remember Neuer's game getting picked apart by many on here when we were linked before he went to Bayern.

Lloris is an excellent keeper and we would struggle to get a better replacement.
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While i agree that we would struggle to get a better replacement Lloris is prone to errors, this is a fact. Last season he made the third highest amount of mistakes leading to goals in the league. This season i can recall his mistakes against Chelsea, Liverpool and City.

Edit: Almost forgot he made a mistake last week against Stoke too for NZonzi's goal.
 
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prarek said:
While i agree that we would struggle to get a better replacement Lloris is prone to errors, this is a fact. Last season he made the third highest amount of mistakes leading to goals in the league. This season i can recall his mistakes against Chelsea, Liverpool and City.
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This is how I see it Lloris is not the perfect keeper and nowhere near De Geas class but I can't think of anyone else who is better than him and available. De Gea, Neuer and Courtois is in a class of their own right now but I think Lloris is up there with the best of the rest.
 
Carl said:
How have we made an ass of things? If a player doesn't want to sign we can't make them.
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We can ask start asking them when they get down to final 3 years in their contracts (if they are young and of value). I believe we are at fault with a few in recent years running down and not acting quickly enough.
 
Just saw Lloris' short interview today on SSN.



0:36 onwards - Sounds like he would be interested in joining if DDG leaves.
 
Oaencha said:
Just saw Lloris' short interview today on SSN.



0:36 onwards - Sounds like he would be interested in joining if DDG leaves.
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Of course he is. Its like asking a cook at Nandos if he would be interested in working with Gordon Ramsey
 
Oaencha said:
Just saw Lloris' short interview today on SSN.



0:36 onwards - Sounds like he would be interested in joining if DDG leaves.
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Interesting... I don't rate him THAT highly though, good keeper but makes mistakes quite a bit. I guess most keepers are a step down from De Gea though tbf
 
Oaencha said:
Just saw Lloris' short interview today on SSN.



0:36 onwards - Sounds like he would be interested in joining if DDG leaves.
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He'd jump at the chance of joining United but I'm just not sure about him, although he might come in and be brilliant. How old is he btw?
 
Red Katie said:
He'd jump at the chance of joining United but I'm just not sure about him, although he might come in and be brilliant. How old is he btw?
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He's only 28. Could have a good 10 years left in him.
 
Good keeper but we can get Fernando Muslera for half Lloris' going price and they are very similar keepers, same age too.
 
Petr Cech
Victor Valdez
Hugo Lloris

In that order...
If DDG leaves I want Cech if not Valdez is good enough... Leno should be on our list for the future..
 
David de Gea
Bernd Leno/other talent
Hugo Lloris
Victor Valdes
Petr Cech

Lloris is a decent shout, he seems willing to come and fits the profile of a keeper. I think Cech is an excellent goalkeeper but he's not suited for van Gaal's high line, his insistence on the goalkeeper parttaking in the positional play, the constant backpasses and the distribution with 2 feet. I think Lloris has potential to fit in under van Gaal even though he has a mistake in him, every realistic keeper will be a downgrade on de Gea. He will cost alot and I just have this weird thing where I prefer talents I haven't seen that much of over Lloris who I watch regularly. I'd be ok with him, but I'd prefer to see a talent come in since we've got such an experienced goalkeeper as backup at the moment in Valdes and good keeperstrainer Frans Hoek, I've read there are plenty of talents around.
 
Loublaze said:
Good keeper but we can get Fernando Muslera for half Lloris' going price and they are very similar keepers, same age too.
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True but there's a reason Lloris is twice the price; PL proven and no language barriers.
 
Oaencha said:
True but there's a reason Lloris is twice the price; PL proven and no language barriers.
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He's twice the price because he plays for Spurs. Levy won't sell him for a penny less than what he wants. The language barrier is not a great hindrance, De Gea could hardly speak English when we signed him and Muslera probably couldn't speak Turkish either. Lloris is a good candidate, I just think there's others just as good if not better.
 
Lloris is a top 5 goalkeeper in the world, he's been almost as good for Spurs as DDG has been for us. He'd be a fantastic replacement.
 
Not understanding the Lloris hate, personally think he's very good. Would be my number 1 replacement if DDG decides to leave.
 
French goalkeepers are all the same: flashy enough to make you believe they're good but ultimately pretty shite and error prone. Steer well clear, he'd be the next Barthez.
 
I don't rate Muslera either. But Cech or Leno would also only cost the half. Lloris will be just too expensive, would suck if we get 20m for De Gea, spend 50m on Lloris and then realize how much worse he is.
 
Yea, i'm another who rates lloris, everytime I've watched Spuds I've been impressed with him, hes been a top Prem keeper since he joined.
Only issue is the Levy price but ideally i'd like him to replace DDG.
 
goin4glory said:
Lloris is a top 5 goalkeeper in the world, he's been almost as good for Spurs as DDG has been for us. He'd be a fantastic replacement.
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Nah. Hes not. Hes top 20, but certainly no better. Makes mistakes.

I would like to see Leno brought in. Valdes in the league. Leno in all cups. Barca esque. Then in a season or two Leno takes over.
 
El-Manos said:
Not understanding the Lloris hate, personally think he's very good. Would be my number 1 replacement if DDG decides to leave.
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Yep; speak to any Spurs fan and they'll tell you how highly they rate Lloris. You can't judge GKs on a mistake or by watching the odd game here and there, which is what I assume lots on here are doing. Every GK makes mistakes, even DDG has cost us a few goals this season. And I can't imagine how many have watched Leno consistently over the course of a season.
 
Cech for me. Much like the VDS signing, it gives us years of service from one of the best in the world, and gives us time to sound out a successor in the same manner as DDG.
 
Woodzy said:
Cech for me. Much like the VDS signing, it gives us years of service from one of the best in the world, and gives us time to sound out a successor in the same manner as DDG.
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Thing with Cech vs Lloris, Cech would be the outstanding GK choice for a settled back 4, possible with a holding player or two screening on top in a more pragmatic approach to games, he'd bring assurance and stability to an already stable back 4.

But for the way we play, with such a highline that forces the keeper to be fast and decisive coming off their line, for bailing out the odd error.. I realy believe Lloris is tailor made for that, I think he'd fit perfectly, he's such a fast sweeper keeper, once he makes a decision he's off his line like a bolt, gets 95% of the tough decisions correct as well.

He's constantly been bailing out Spurs back 4 over the last few years as DDG has been for us.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Thing with Cech vs Lloris, Cech would be the outstanding GK choice for a settled back 4, possible with a holding player or two screening on top in a more pragmatic approach to games, he'd bring assurance and stability to an already stable back 4.

But for the way we play, with such a highline that forces the keeper to be fast and decisive coming off their line, for bailing out the odd error.. I realy believe Lloris is tailor made for that, I think he'd fit perfectly, he's such a fast sweeper keeper, once he makes a decision he's off his line like a bolt, gets 95% of the tough decisions correct as well.

He's constantly been bailing out Spurs back 4 over the last few years as DDG has been for us.
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Foster received much less protection than Lloris and we all know how he melted away at OT. Playing at a big club is a different cup of tea than playing with the likes of Spurs or Sunderland
 
devilish said:
Foster received much less protection than Lloris and we all know how he melted away at OT. Playing at a big club is a different cup of tea than playing with the likes of Spurs or Sunderland
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Well I would say there's a bit of a difference to playing for Sunderland or the ilk than Spurs and Frances no.1, surely there is some pressure captaining France and playing in WCs and the like?
Though you are right that is another positive that Cech brings. that he's played for a top 4 team, though I would also argue his last season as Chelsea's no.1 before losing his spot was not his best and question the possible trajectory of his longterm form.
 
devilish said:
Foster received much less protection than Lloris and we all know how he melted away at OT. Playing at a big club is a different cup of tea than playing with the likes of Spurs or Sunderland
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I can't believe you're comparing Lloris with Foster. Foster had a loan at Wrexham and Watford before playing for us and later admitting he didn't have the mentality to cope with the pressure.

Lloris has played in the CL, WC, won multiple GK of the year awards in France and captained his national team all before reaching 30.
 
I reckon we could maybe pry Petr Cech from Chelsea for a similar amount to what we get for De Gea from Madrid (should he go). Lloris would cost us more, but would also probably fill out goalkeeping position for 4-5 years longer... I'd be touch and go with Cech or Lloris if we lose Dave, happy with either tbh. Getting 'value in the market' became almost obsolete a while ago (especially when our best options play for two of our closest rivals).
 
He's decent but a pretty big step down from DDG. I feel like the biggest plus point to signing him would be the Glaston meltdown, which shouldn't be the best thing about a signing.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Thing with Cech vs Lloris, Cech would be the outstanding GK choice for a settled back 4, possible with a holding player or two screening on top in a more pragmatic approach to games, he'd bring assurance and stability to an already stable back 4.

But for the way we play, with such a highline that forces the keeper to be fast and decisive coming off their line, for bailing out the odd error.. I realy believe Lloris is tailor made for that, I think he'd fit perfectly, he's such a fast sweeper keeper, once he makes a decision he's off his line like a bolt, gets 95% of the tough decisions correct as well.

He's constantly been bailing out Spurs back 4 over the last few years as DDG has been for us.
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That's true enough. In all fairness that's also De Gea's biggest weakness, he tends to stay on his line the vast majority of the time even where defenders think he should be coming out. I think one of the reasons Lloris makes more mistakes is that he deals with a number of chances before they become one on ones. Whereas De Gea would stay on his line and save the 1v1 opportunity 75% of the time and not get criticised for the 25% (as no-one expects you to save a 1v1), Lloris would be off his line clearing the ball 90% of the time, but the 10% he cocks up look like howlers.

Naturally we'll concede more in every other area as De Gea is a better goalkeeper all round. But I believe in terms of 1v1 chances we'd be better of with Lloris.
 
kps88 said:
I can't believe you're comparing Lloris with Foster. Foster had a loan at Wrexham and Watford before playing for us and later admitting he didn't have the mentality to cope with the pressure.

Lloris has played in the CL, WC, won multiple GK of the year awards in France and captained his national team all before reaching 30.
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None of them are under some real pressure to win anything at club level.
 
devilish said:
None of them are under some real pressure to win anything at club level.
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Same could be said for DDG, Neur, Buffon or Courtois before they made their moves. By your logic, we should only sign players who were competing for league titles with their previous clubs.
 
kps88 said:
Same could be said for DDG, Neur, Buffon or Courtois before they made their moves. By your logic, we should only sign players who were competing for league titles with their previous clubs.
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Well at least 3 of them were child prodigies. Can you rate Lloris in the same way?
 
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