Well that was short lived
Happy for Wayne. United Legend.
Now hopefully he can do some damage to Pool.
How would you feel if Rooney smashed it at Everton?
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Happy for Wayne. United Legend.
Now hopefully he can do some damage to Pool.
Being saying it though, Wayne is the least of their problems. Even when he was with us, he still retained his accurate finishing, and joining Everton has somehow given him a purple patch.
He's their best goal-scorer and quite frankly, still a sight better than the freekick merchant Sigurdsson.
He's their best goal-scorer and quite frankly, still a sight better than the freekick merchant Sigurdsson.
Always said he'd do well, he needed a fresh challenge.
Class is permanent, his goal showed that. What Barkley said summed it up, not many players in world football could do that.
Class is permanent, his goal showed that. What Barkley said summed it up, not many players in world football could do that.
7 League goals for Everton. The rest of the squad has 10 between them.
The slow motion shot showing the technique and it sailing just over the head's of two West Ham players, with one trying in vain to handball it, is quite beautiful though.
The slow motion shot showing the technique and it sailing just over the head's of two West Ham players, with one trying in vain to handball it, is quite beautiful though.
Looks half decent, we should sign this kid!
A bit kneejerk, no? Let's see how he performs on a cold night in Stoke before we go splashing the cash.
You think it’s easy for any half decent player to hit the target from 70 yards out? No way man. There are handful of players who can both hit the target and put the weight of the shot in such a way that it’s fast enough to get past the players. You need the ball to bounce as close to the goal as possible.
If it was rolling slowly (likr beckham for example) i would say it was easier. You must really hate rooney to not be able to give him any credit for this. I've spoken to quite a few football fans of different clubs today and not one of them has said it was anything other than class.
I was just posting in another thread about this ridiculous accusation of "hate." Really poor stuff from yourself. It's unnecessary in itself but even more so when you level it against Pogue. Might be worth checking somebody's history on the topic(Rooney) next time you sling out the "hate" thing. Pogue is a big fan of Rooney.
Heh. That’s funny. I guess you’re not familiar with my posting history. Which is fair enough.
Don’t get me wrong. I do think it’s an excellent goal. I just don’t think that a) it’s Rooney’s best goal or b) one of the best goals in the history of the PL. In fact, I would struggle to think of any other “half way or further” goal that was easier to execute (freak GK goals aside)
It's obviously an excellent strike (as any goal scored from that sort of distance is going to be) but I don't see much wrong with pointing out that it's not that good when you consider he was basically putting it into an empty goal. Any well-positioned goalkeeper readied for the shot would've saved it.
Heck you don't have to be well positioned to save that shot. Just be anywhere in front of the goal. But for the moment he was in, he could not have hit it sweeter.
Here's a bunch of similar goals. I'd say all bar one or two were more difficult to execute. Although, to be fair, he struck the ball as cleanly as any of them.
I just think the absence of a keeper gives him much more margin for error and makes it an easier chance to take. I mean, we've probably all tried kicking the ball into the goal from the half-way line at some point. It's not all that hard to do. Kicking it into the goal without bouncing - which is what they're aiming for when the keeper is in his box - is much harder to do. David Beckham's goal (for example) is streets ahead, for this reason. So I find it strange that anyone would consider last night's goal to be of the same caliber.
You don't take the shot if the keeper is well-positioned.
There is just something great about a goal from the halfway line, Rooney has done it twice both very different scenarios though. I prefer the strike with Everton but I would say that his one for United was much harder.
Here's another one which is better for the same reason.
I look at it this way:
The probability of scoring, in Rooney's case, is higher, since Hart's nowhere to be seen.
But the technique involved is of the highest level. The margin of error becomes that much bigger when the ball is rolling towards you at decent pace. You try hitting the target on an empty field with the ball rolling straight at you while you run towards it, let alone in a Premier League match.
It's much easier getting the aim right when the ball rolls slowly in front of you, although the fact that the goalkeeper is entirely stranded basically means that hitting the target will result in a goal.
You're the second person to doubt me on this, so I'm starting to doubt my own experiences! I honestly find a ball rolling towards me far easier to hit cleanly and powerfully than when it's stationary or rolling away from me. Obviously, when it goes awry it goes absolutely fecking miles off target but it's definitely the way I'd want the ball to come at me for a shot like that.
The margin for error is much, much bigger with the ball travelling straight towards you. You've got much more control on direction et all when the ball is stationary or rolling away from you.
In terms of power, yes, absolutely easier, but not in terms of direction.
I've played football at semi-decent level as a midfielder, with crossfield passes as something of a speciality. It's much, much easier to hit your target with the ball stationary or moving away from you.
It is much harder to hit a rolling ball with accuracy. If it is rolling away from you or towards you, it is much harder to be accurate.
Na your bang on, you have to get it right but there’s a reason in training someone will give layoffs, a ball rolling back toward you is prime opportunity for a ping.
Rooney probably put in his best performance for Everton last night because he's delighted Sam Allardyce has been appointed as manager.
He knows now he might not be dropped or left out for the foreseeable future and Sam, when he was England manager, said stuff like 'Wayne plays where he wants', 'I can't tell Rooney where to play' and so on.
This was a wonderful night for him - and he celebrated by putting on an exhibition and a brilliant goal.
Good luck to him - and he'll revel in the third wise man (after Moyes and LVG) giving him the freedom of the park.
Not sure it helps Everton long-term though.
He knows now he might not be dropped or left out for the foreseeable future and Sam, when he was England manager, said stuff like 'Wayne plays where he wants', 'I can't tell Rooney where to play' and so on.
This was a wonderful night for him - and he celebrated by putting on an exhibition and a brilliant goal.
Good luck to him - and he'll revel in the third wise man (after Moyes and LVG) giving him the freedom of the park.
Not sure it helps Everton long-term though.
I literally can only think of a handful of players who could hit it like that; Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard and Pjanic all spring to mind but I struggle to think of many others. All time was an exaggeration but it's an exclusive club for sure.
So you're telling me loads can then? Including you I imagine?
Easier to generate power, sure, but therefore harder to keep it accurate as well.
You can only think of 4 players who could shoot into an empty net from the halfway line?I literally can only think of a handful of players who could hit it like that; Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard and Pjanic all spring to mind but I struggle to think of many others. All time was an exaggeration but it's an exclusive club for sure.
So you're telling me loads can then? Including you I imagine?
You can only think of 4 players who could shoot into an empty net from the halfway line?
No, hit it with the technique where you cut across it and put fade the ball.
I hate to break it to you, but it's not difficult to put 'fade' on the ball. Or 'spin' as us old people refer to it.
Okay Pele. Should probably put you in that club then...
Go and watch any episode of the Crossbar Challenge which used to be (and possibly still is) on Soccer AM. You'll see any amount of 'fade'.
Most professional footballers could hit the ball exactly like that.I literally can only think of a handful of players who could hit it like that; Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard and Pjanic all spring to mind but I struggle to think of many others. All time was an exaggeration but it's an exclusive club for sure.
So you're telling me loads can then? Including you I imagine?
Nah, I disagree. Lukaku can't even control the thing.
That's a dead ball. If the ball was bouncing at pace towards them then I bet most couldn't even hit the target.
@Pogue Mahone @AndyJ1985 @The Bloody-Nine any of you played football to any level?
Not a dig - genuinely interested.
Not a dig - genuinely interested.
Yes. And no offence, but I'm not sure that you have, if you can only think of four players in the world who could strike the ball like that.
A very shite level. University team probably pinnacle of my mediocre career.
Would love it if Wazza could reinvent himself at Everton. I can't see it happening though.
Loads of spectacular goals like Rooney's have been scored in the lower leagues. It's not being able to put a bit of spin on a ball that separates good from bad players.
It was a great goal, but to say only a handful of players can kick a ball like that is not even close to true.
Why would anyone have a problem with it?
A club legend doing well at a non-rival... what's not good about that.
A club legend doing well at a non-rival... what's not good about that.
Dude needs to check out a crossbar challenge, footballers aren't dead certain to hit the target even with no pressure on and all the time in the world to take their shot.
I could see Rooney in a type of attacking midfield role like Lampard used to do at Chelsea.
Yeah as well it’s the trajectory, any mug can take a goal kick with the laces side on, but this is flat and driven, Scholes was masterful at it but it’s not a given even for PL players.
Notwithstanding the fact that all sorts of players can do all sorts of things on the training ground, doing it against PL players in front of 50,000 with lights, TV cameras et al, is different.
That’s what makes it such a goal goal for me, undeniably Hart gifts it, but he doesn’t break stride and just pings it, so much more satisfying than a more loopy, cross field ball type finish.
Notwithstanding the fact that all sorts of players can do all sorts of things on the training ground, doing it against PL players in front of 50,000 with lights, TV cameras et al, is different.
That’s what makes it such a goal goal for me, undeniably Hart gifts it, but he doesn’t break stride and just pings it, so much more satisfying than a more loopy, cross field ball type finish.