No, he has never and his tactics is not robotic for a winger, stop talking rubbish now.
How much would you sell Di Maria for?
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No, he has never and his tactics is not robotic for a winger, stop talking rubbish now.
Surely we are under no pressure to sell - how long is his contract for?
His agent may be bleating behind the scenes about lack of games or being mugged off by LVG but for the next couple seasons he's ours, as long as he does settle (off the field, or it would be a waste of time and definitely money.)
His agent may be bleating behind the scenes about lack of games or being mugged off by LVG but for the next couple seasons he's ours, as long as he does settle (off the field, or it would be a waste of time and definitely money.)
Our best 2 performances have been without him. Do you think he suits the style of play lvg wants? Possession football is what we're about but i don't think that is his strength. Maybe a miss match?
Di Maria’s current form is the worse I’ve seen for years. Still, he’s getting assists. Bigger worry is his decision making obviously which seems to have regressed drastically since last season, but I really think he will turn it around next season. It can’t get any worse I suppose.
Secondly, as someone said we’re in a bigger need of players than money, so I don’t see a reason to sell him*. I have my doubts about him fitting LvG style of play though, he has always been extremely rash.
*That said, if any top class winger becomes available (Reus?) I would be willing to sell Di Maria as he’s not that good as a winger to build a team around him, and he’s definitely not going back to midfield under van Gaal IMO.
Secondly, as someone said we’re in a bigger need of players than money, so I don’t see a reason to sell him*. I have my doubts about him fitting LvG style of play though, he has always been extremely rash.
*That said, if any top class winger becomes available (Reus?) I would be willing to sell Di Maria as he’s not that good as a winger to build a team around him, and he’s definitely not going back to midfield under van Gaal IMO.
Why sell him??
Most assists and that when he has been terrible??
It just takes time to get settled and he will come good he is a great player and we should be adding those not selling.
If it´s not happening next season we can sell him..
Most assists and that when he has been terrible??
It just takes time to get settled and he will come good he is a great player and we should be adding those not selling.
If it´s not happening next season we can sell him..
If Di Maria asks me for something then I will give it to him for free. No cost.
Without him? He gave the assist for the winning goal and gave the pass for the penalty.
LvG isn't about 100% possesion, that doesn't win you games. He always has 3-4 players who have freedom and can lose the ball. They can be unpredictable when trying to make things happen. The team is ready to defend when he has the ball, they're not when Valencia has it for example.
An inform Di Maria in a well drilled system can be very dangerous. I believe that we will be great next season, he's having a tough time now but he'll get over that.
That people want to sell him for less than what we've paid baffles me. We have no interest in selling him as he's on a long contract and we're no selling club.
Why sell? He's a great player. If we sell, we'd need to replace him, as we need pace and unpredictability. He's our only player who offers that currently. He was excellent in the first third of the season, until he got injured.
I don't believe we ever bought him for his re-sale value, so that shouldn't be our concern. We should be doing all we can to get the best out of him. He was scoring important goals in the early stages of the season, and he's still creating goals even when playing poorly. He should be given at least one more season.
I don't believe we ever bought him for his re-sale value, so that shouldn't be our concern. We should be doing all we can to get the best out of him. He was scoring important goals in the early stages of the season, and he's still creating goals even when playing poorly. He should be given at least one more season.
Nothing. He at least deserves a second year to show if he can make it here. I think there is no doubt that he is an excellent player if he finds his form from last season again and we should at least give him another season to try and get back to this. Selling him after one season would be stupid unless he comes out and says he is totally unhappy here and wants to go back to Spain or something like that we should no way consider selling him.
That is exactly my point in making this thread - if he (or any other player) is unhappy at United we wont get the best out of them and personally I don't want to see people here who are (allegedly) not interested in staying.
His family arent gonna settle. He won't either.
Verratti + £20m.
I dont think anyone is going to argue he has the potential to do well here and has shown glimpses of his brilliance in the early part of the season. We should of course give him a second chance next season (and I have no doubt that LVG will if its his decision) but I think the crucial point is his head could already be turned. The poor form, the break in, the undoubted tapping up from PSG in a much better climate with the promise of a better climate, the fact we are scrapping for 4th place instead of silverware.
So if he is set to go, we should be looking to recoup exactly what we paid for him. No need to take a loss given his age and potential. if you're not gonna get your money back keep him for another season.
So if he is set to go, we should be looking to recoup exactly what we paid for him. No need to take a loss given his age and potential. if you're not gonna get your money back keep him for another season.
We're not selling him and nor should we, but 45m would be my breaking point if.
This thread has hit an all time low IMO. Didn't even see such threads for worse players we have had at the club 
To the people saying 'sell him to PSG PRONTO!', How do you even know they would be interested anymore? Alot changes in football.
To the people saying 'sell him to PSG PRONTO!', How do you even know they would be interested anymore? Alot changes in football.
At least 3 Twirls.
Selling him would be stupid at this point. He needs another year. I can see Van Gaal getting rid if a big enough offer comes in though.
Van Gaal likes players to be disciplined and quite robotic, but he always have some players who have enough freedom.
I think that Di Maria will come good, but if he wants to leave, and we get a 50+m offer, then I wouldn't be bothered if he leave.
I think that Di Maria will come good, but if he wants to leave, and we get a 50+m offer, then I wouldn't be bothered if he leave.
He's still world class. We'd be moronic to sell him. The only scenarios I think I'd accept is if we did a straight swap with Juve for Pogba or PSG for Verratti. In terms of a big money bid, I wouldn't be happy letting him go for less than £50m.
Even then, I'd much prefer him to stay.
Even then, I'd much prefer him to stay.
I'm not sure how any of us can predict that. But I wouldn't sell him before we find out, he's been here just over 6 months.
If he asks to leave then we'll look at offers, but to sell him now would be silly.
He told you that yesterday over lunch?
Yes he is, and no we wouldn't.
There is two problems with Di Maria firstly he clearly stated that we weren't his preferred destination, so he could be willing to sign for an other team.
Secondly, some of his characteristic are problematic, his lack of care in possession is a huge problem, his lack of goals is also a problem for a 60m player in our setup. Even last season Bale's (who doesn't seem ideal for us) stats are more interesting 15+ goals AND 15+ assists when Di Maria is a 5+ goals AND 20ish assists.
One of the question that I ask myself is, is Di Maria suitable for Barcelona or Bayern ? I think he is not, I fear that we are trying to shoehorn him because of his price or his reputation. For example I think that Barcelona did the right thing by getting rid of Riquelme, Alexis Sanchez, Ibrahimovic and Eto'o.
It doesn't matter if the player his world class, the question is, can he sublime the team and does the team sublime the player ?
If he wants out then of course we should sell and for £50m minimum. No reason to sell yet if he wants in.
I wouldn't sell him yet. He's not the kind of player that would get you into the Champions League, but he's the kind of player that will help you win the Champions League.
Same for me.
I wouldn't. I'd give him another season.
50 million provided we could reinvest it and become better for it. Considering how we've spent our money lately, that's doubtful.
His family is clearly unsettled, he recently sold their house and they moved into the Lowry Hotel to live. That's hardly a sign of permanence.
He'll be gone in the Summer, there's no point in hanging on to an unhappy player - he'll never be the player we want him to be.
He'll be gone in the Summer, there's no point in hanging on to an unhappy player - he'll never be the player we want him to be.
Which club out there can actually afford him and would want to spent close to what United paid for him plus accommodate his wages? Unless PSG decide to go crazy once again, I can't see any takers.
I'd personally hold on to him. He's had a hard world cup, come straight from there to a new league (at a much higher pace than La Liga) and after a couple of good performances at the start of the season has struggled to settle in. Does that mean we cash in and get rid only to buy another superstar who will also take time to settle or do we stick with him and re-enforce the team around him?
I say we do the later. BUT, if he decides he wants to go then would happily use him in a player plus cash deal....Cavani from PSG perhaps, Pogba from Juve...
I say we do the later. BUT, if he decides he wants to go then would happily use him in a player plus cash deal....Cavani from PSG perhaps, Pogba from Juve...
Alternatively they're stopping there whilst shopping for a new gaff? Ever been burgled? Ain't nice and if you have the money to bail out and move elsewhere then why not.
But yeh he could well want out.
You couldn't make some of this up, what a load of....................
Yeah, sadly he's had it.
Which bits exactly expert? ;o)
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But I do get your point. Maybe we wouldn't be moronic to get rid now, but it really wouldn't sit right with me at all. I think he needs a crack of the whip playing further up the pitch. He's too risky and casual in possession (in his current form) to play deeper. Then again, in our current system, there isn't really any player who doesn't contribute defensively. I think with a bit more confidence and adapting to LvG's current tactics, he'd be lethal in place of Young.
The thing is, if he really wants out (right now I don’t think that’s the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised either), after this poor season I can easily see us losing half the money we bought him for.
I'd keep him but if they were going to sell then no less than £50 million.
£80.00000001 million. Club record in, club record out.
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But I do get your point. Maybe we wouldn't be moronic to get rid now, but it really wouldn't sit right with me at all. I think he needs a crack of the whip playing further up the pitch. He's too risky and casual in possession (in his current form) to play deeper. Then again, in our current system, there isn't really any player who doesn't contribute defensively. I think with a bit more confidence and adapting to LvG's current tactics, he'd be lethal in place of Young.
We intend to be the best, and to do so we need a team who suits the 11 players on the field, and at the same time, we need from the 11 players that they bring as much positives thing to the table as possible.And it's not about defensive contribution, he is 100% counter attacking football, 0% possession, he is the player who lost the ball the more times in a game in the world cup history, since we are clearly a possession team, he will need to modify his mentality totally.
A player like Ribery who was better and less wasteful struggled to adapt, so I have real doubt that Di Maria will be able to do so. Now he is a quality player and has all the tools, he just needs to use them differently but at 27 we need him to hurry.
Nothing, we have it in our hands and shouldn't sell him, would be totally mad. We are not a circus like Real and I don't want us to turn into one.