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How good was David Beckham?
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Since the 90’s I’d perhaps say apart from Bruno, Beckham was the best player we have had at creating chances. Giggs up there obviously too.
I do rate Bruno higher as a footballer however than both. Bruno’s problem is he joined in a bad era.
Beckham as good as he was couldn’t have made the difference Bruno has… especially with Martial getting on the end of his crosses.
I do rate Bruno higher as a footballer however than both. Bruno’s problem is he joined in a bad era.
Beckham as good as he was couldn’t have made the difference Bruno has… especially with Martial getting on the end of his crosses.
As good as Maguire is crap.
Tom Cleverly probably would be too.
Both Beckham and Giggs were better than Bruno already at a much younger age. But both were also playing in better, much more functional, attacking and winning teams which of course helps.Since the 90’s I’d perhaps say apart from Bruno, Beckham was the best player we have had at creating chances. Giggs up there obviously too.
I do rate Bruno higher as a footballer however than both. Bruno’s problem is he joined in a bad era.
Beckham as good as he was couldn’t have made the difference Bruno has… especially with Martial getting on the end of his crosses.
In terms of availability, fitness and playing every game however Bruno is as much a machine as Beckham was.
Very elegant player and there are similarities, don''t think he has the passing creativity of Giggs but his dribbling is fun to watch.
Beckham is often called overrated - the fact is, he is probably underrated. His stats were insane - 60 goals and 82 assists in 255 P.L matches for a right midfielder. He almost had as good a point-ratio pr game as Sadio Mane had - and he played as a winger in a 4-3-3
Add to that - he had a superb work-rate and worked his socks off defensively.
Or how about if we compare his 142 points in 255 matches to these players:
Bergkamp had 181 points in 318 matches
DeBruyne had 163 points in 238 matches
Scholes had 162 points in 499 matches
Gerrard had 212 points in 504 matches
Lampard had 279 points in 609 matches
And Beckham is apparently overrated, despite not being far away from the numbers DeBruyne had for City (and he joined City as an experienced player, Beckham made his breakthrough at United as a youngster)
Add to that - he had a superb work-rate and worked his socks off defensively.
Or how about if we compare his 142 points in 255 matches to these players:
Bergkamp had 181 points in 318 matches
DeBruyne had 163 points in 238 matches
Scholes had 162 points in 499 matches
Gerrard had 212 points in 504 matches
Lampard had 279 points in 609 matches
And Beckham is apparently overrated, despite not being far away from the numbers DeBruyne had for City (and he joined City as an experienced player, Beckham made his breakthrough at United as a youngster)
Bruno isn't close to Giggs or Beckham.Since the 90’s I’d perhaps say apart from Bruno, Beckham was the best player we have had at creating chances. Giggs up there obviously too.
I do rate Bruno higher as a footballer however than both. Bruno’s problem is he joined in a bad era.
Beckham as good as he was couldn’t have made the difference Bruno has… especially with Martial getting on the end of his crosses.
How do you measure their points? Team points? Points won by goals or assists?
goals + assists
Well we usually just call that GA or goal contributions.
Beckham has the same issue as Brad Pitt; they’re so classically handsome that you assume a lot of their renown comes from that rather than their craft.
Ironically Becks would get his hands as dirty as anybody else despite seeming like some sort of luxury player. Incredible work rate to go with his sublime passing skills.
Ironically Becks would get his hands as dirty as anybody else despite seeming like some sort of luxury player. Incredible work rate to go with his sublime passing skills.
Giggs was a better centre midfielder for us than Becks was, to be honest. He played that position for us for a while towards the end and was excellent in it.
Reckon everyone watched the Brighton game. And saw that horrendous free kick by Sabitzer with only a few minutes left on the clock. It immediately reminded me of this thread.
I came here to say that this kind of rubbish freekick/ cross/ delivery almost never happens to Becks. Maybe for every 300 crosses, you will only get 1 bad one from Becks as part of statistical discrepancy. That was how good and consistent he was.
Goodness me how far our standards have dropped. Can't think of even sub-standard decent crossers in the current squad except for maybe Shaw.
I came here to say that this kind of rubbish freekick/ cross/ delivery almost never happens to Becks. Maybe for every 300 crosses, you will only get 1 bad one from Becks as part of statistical discrepancy. That was how good and consistent he was.
Goodness me how far our standards have dropped. Can't think of even sub-standard decent crossers in the current squad except for maybe Shaw.
This day 20 years ago 11 May 2003, David Beckham made his final appearance for Manchester United and signed off with a goal in a 2-1 win over Everton. The goal a trademark free kick and Wayne Rooney was in the Everton wall.
Think Becks was famous for being handsome and was a marketers dream because of that while at the same time being widely considered as overrated and one dimensional by a lot of fans.
However, I think he's definitely the rare case of classic prem era player who's playing reputation would be greatly enhanced in the world of data analytics. He obviously had loads of assists and goals and I suspect he'd be a progressive monster and would probably be a great presser in a modern system as he was always so hardworking
However, I think he's definitely the rare case of classic prem era player who's playing reputation would be greatly enhanced in the world of data analytics. He obviously had loads of assists and goals and I suspect he'd be a progressive monster and would probably be a great presser in a modern system as he was always so hardworking
Me being young and naive back then had finally realised by then that Beckham was indeed leaving. Until then I was still in denial as I couldn’t believe that such a talented academy product would not end his career at United.
But that was a great lesson that day: I learnt that it was just football and since then I wasn’t ever nearly as sad as that day whenever a (good/great) player left United.
Oh okI was absolutely gutted when Beckham left Utd, and I was 45
I am glad that was my first and last time as I was really down/sad. Of course I wasn’t jumping up and down out of joy when a couple of years later Keane and Ruud left, but I could deal with it much better.
I was never DB 007's biggest fan, perhaps because of the image he presented wasnt quite true. He could be great and win games but so could Scholes (or KDB) without the showbiz element. No idea what he's doing now as owner of FC Miami but seems to spend most of his time making adverts for whisky and his wife's brand etc.
One the great dead-ball specialist I ever saw.
Man's got to earn a living for his family.
From 1998 to around 2004 he was world class, you have to be a seriously good player to play for both Manchester United and Real Madrid.
Some of those first time crosses on a plate to Yorke and Cole were sensational. Absolutely criminal that he didn't win the Ballon d'Or in 99. Rivaldo's Barca didn't even get out of the Champions League group stage that season.
I've said this before, but I think his reputation as a player (not the other aspect, the celebrity thing) will keep improving over time. Time is on his side, you could say, and specifically in the sense that there's no chance that either his particular (extreme) qualities or his overall contribution will go down from here in appreciation (from serious people who take an interest).
He's certainly the best crosser of a ball I've ever seen, whipped in fast and phenomenally accurate. But I can't pick Beckham ahead of Keane or Scholes in that exceptional midfield.
Is he a little bit under appreciated as a football player due to his other activities and fame? his comment today made me chuckle
I'd have him in the club legend list. So much of what he did gets forgotten.
He was as fit as could be and worked his ass off nevermind his ability which was world class at his peak - he should or at least could have won the Ballon D'or once.
Everyone remembers the Giggs' goal (rightly so) in the FA Cup semi final but Beckham's hardly ever gets a mention as an example.
He was a club man through and through and didn't want to leave at all.
He was as fit as could be and worked his ass off nevermind his ability which was world class at his peak - he should or at least could have won the Ballon D'or once.
Everyone remembers the Giggs' goal (rightly so) in the FA Cup semi final but Beckham's hardly ever gets a mention as an example.
He was a club man through and through and didn't want to leave at all.
I’ll be there Sunday and do my part. Always loved Becks, he was a terrific footballer and gave his best years to us. He’s played for the biggest clubs globally but he’s a true red, no doubt.
Class, I hope there will be a chant for him. 100% legend
He was sensational for United and top shelf for Real Madrid and remained Always Red despite achieving a lot in Madrid.
His England woes and unfortunate fallout with Fergie has colored his career in unfortunate ways, but for me he was always world class and I like him a lot as a character, as well.
Definitely a United icon
His England woes and unfortunate fallout with Fergie has colored his career in unfortunate ways, but for me he was always world class and I like him a lot as a character, as well.
Definitely a United icon
Cantona for me was the biggest Legend I have seen play in United shirt. He is The King, above and beyond anybody else. Even being half crazy takes nothing away from how much I revere him
Becks was 10x the baller Roy Keane was. Keane was an exceptional leader and captain, but not anywhere as great of a talent as Becks, in my opinion
Nice. Hopefully many will join!
He was very, very, very good. /EndOfThread
Hot winger trying hot wings.
Edit: just 2 minutes in. He's eating wings like a mentalist and has just said the USA will win the World Cup some day. Not a good start Becks.
feck me it is far too early in the day for such a ridiculous take. I love David Beckham, I met him as a child, he was my favourite footballer growing up (still is my favourite footballer too), I collected shirts with every number he wore at every club he played for, heck I threw a sickie and flew to Paris at a days notice with an ex just to say that I'd seen his last ever game live; so I think it's fair to say my bias in most arguments would sit towards Beckham. But to say that he was "10x" the player Roy Keane was is perhaps one of the most insane things I have read in over 15 years on this forum.
This.
Roy Keane seems to have been reduced to being an amazing and tough as nails captain, but just a decent footballer.
Roy Keane was both an exceptional footballer, AND an amazing leader. Considering his position and the era he played in, he was pretty much the complete package. The only skill he really lacked was fancy dribbling, which he didn't need anyway.