Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed

It was one of the best scenes, and the dropping of the crown was an accident but Paddy and Matt just rolled with it. They filmed it both ways but kept it like that.

Was a great decision to keep it. I also noticed Daemon stuttered a couple times when talking to viserys in his room. As if he was emotional as well seeing his brother like that.
 
You realise Cerci and Jaime were twins in GoT? It's one of GRRM's kinks.
It does have president in history though. the Ptolemy dynasty was built on incest often brother to sister.
No, I had never copped that, I really appreciate you pointing it out to me.
 
In terms of storytelling and acting it is just so much better than Rings of Power.

It's not even close between them and that's with House of Dragons having some flaws even.

When you watch one show then see the other the difference is like watching the first half of City Vs United again
 
It was one of the best scenes, and the dropping of the crown was an accident but Paddy and Matt just rolled with it. They filmed it both ways but kept it like that.
Perfect happy accident as it came of so grand on the screen.
 
In terms of storytelling and acting it is just so much better than Rings of Power.

It's not even close between them and that's with House of Dragons having some flaws even.

When you watch one show then see the other the difference is like watching the first half of City Vs United again
:lol: Harsh but still...

One show treats their audience like younger adults, showing them character flaws, violence, corruption and conspiracy in morbid way.. and primitive wars, many centuries ago were started after small, petty things btw.

The other show is cluttered with some irrelevant agenda and it's fame now relying too much on controversy plus nerds vs fanboys war and It's really pathetic. The inside fighting looks like a chicken riot inside a cage full of animal shit.

One show is definitely a victim here, even after huge budget pumped in it... after all, it's still watchable, if you'll focus only on spectacle mostly served by evil characters.
 
I think HotD also benefits from being solely focused on one storyline. It’s not spread out across the world.
 
I actually think its a very good show and better than s7 and s8. If they manage to stick the landing at the end of the season then I think this will officially be a return to form for the series and also make me look forward to the snow series.
 
On Game of Thrones and this did we ever find out who the Prince who was promised actually was?
 
It was Jon. It didn't matter though, because the writers were shit.


That's what I was thinking with the Prince Aegon thing. Just makes it worse somehow that they were building this up for over two centuries only for the last two seasons of the show to mess it up
 
They made everything and everyone insignificant in the end.

Except bronn. He won the most

They would never do it....but I wouldn't be opposed to the house of dragon team redoing season 8 over a couple seasons if the actors were up for it. I actually think it would be a guaranteed hit.
 
In terms of storytelling and acting it is just so much better than Rings of Power.

It's not even close between them and that's with House of Dragons having some flaws even.

When you watch one show then see the other the difference is like watching the first half of City Vs United again

Nah.
 
George has defended the LotR show with almost every comment in the respective thread and it’s clearly his favourite which is fine but the writing and acting is just easily so much better in this. And I was expecting to dislike this show. I wanted to like the LotR one more.
 
In terms of storytelling and acting it is just so much better than Rings of Power.

It's not even close between them and that's with House of Dragons having some flaws even.

When you watch one show then see the other the difference is like watching the first half of City Vs United again

And yet I have enjoyed LOTR: ROP a lot more than HOD.

The acting quality has been a better in HOD but I don't think any of the characters have been at all interesting like in GOT where nearly every character was.

Durin has entertained me more in LOTR than anyone in HOD so far. Adar has been a better 'bad guy' than anyone in HOD also.
 
There are more than a few criticisms or complaints you can throw at the writers, but the scenes with Viserys in this episode were top drawer stuff. Not just in this show, but in the GoT franchise in general. Kudos to Paddy Considine for his exceptional performance in the show.
 
And yet I have enjoyed LOTR: ROP a lot more than HOD.

The acting quality has been a better in HOD but I don't think any of the characters have been at all interesting like in GOT where nearly every character was.

Durin has entertained me more in LOTR than anyone in HOD so far. Adar has been a better 'bad guy' than anyone in HOD also.
You on a wind up?
 
You on a wind up?

No I'm genuinely not. HOD has been good but just haven't got into into it like I did with GOT right from the off. The acting quality is better like I said but that's not everything for me. The time skips and actors changing were an issue.

LOTR hasn't been without its faults of course either but it's still been enjoyable and brought a smile to my face.
 
That Viserys entrance scene was sensational. Might be one of my favourite GOT scenes ever. Whole episode was perfect, too. Score, cinematography, acting was of such a high standard. Up there with the finest of GOT.
 
They would never do it....but I wouldn't be opposed to the house of dragon team redoing season 8 over a couple seasons if the actors were up for it. I actually think it would be a guaranteed hit.
I doubt the actors would do it. A lot are past it now and done with it.
I'm actually surprised an animated redo hasn't been done or suggested.
 
That Viserys entrance scene was sensational. Might be one of my favourite GOT scenes ever. Whole episode was perfect, too. Score, cinematography, acting was of such a high standard. Up there with the finest of GOT.

It was the strongest episode of the series by far and a great scene. Paddy Considine has carried the show really though.

None of the other actors / characters have been that interesting to me. Rhys Ifans I thought was going to be the person who carried the show to start with but he really hasn't. Paddy has been sublime.
 
In terms of storytelling and acting it is just so much better than Rings of Power.

It's not even close between them and that's with House of Dragons having some flaws even.

When you watch one show then see the other the difference is like watching the first half of City Vs United again

Yeah, exactly right. I can get that some people aren't that interested in this, but as far as writing and acting goes it's obviously on another level to Rings of Power. The only reason anyone would have to agree is if they're a big Lord of the Rings fan, which is fair enough.
 
Why is rhaneyra a proper pussy now?

I don't like any of the "young" characters now, all full of themselves but all seem pretty shitey.

The one eyed one is the only one who seems like he could have a scrap, even then I just see him as a lesser Daemon.
 
I actually think its a very good show and better than s7 and s8. If they manage to stick the landing at the end of the season then I think this will officially be a return to form for the series and also make me look forward to the snow series.
Its better than anything GOT did post S4.

To set the series for Dance of the dragons for next 3 season ( according to GRR anyway), they had to do multiple time jumps but last episode they have already landed safely. As with HBO GOT tradition, episode 9 is going to be huge and from the preview it looks like it is.

Targaryen Civil War is the main point of the series and they are going to give it the full attention unlike what D&D decided to do with Long Winter.
 
Why is rhaneyra a proper pussy now?

I don't like any of the "young" characters now, all full of themselves but all seem pretty shitey.

The one eyed one is the only one who seems like he could have a scrap, even then I just see him as a lesser Daemon.
Mostly because she has been away from Kings Landing for a large part of the last 7-8 years and has little to no direct connections with any of the other houses or support in the Capital. Her biggest ally is House Velaryon who think that she had their son murdered and is bent on installing her bastard child as the heir to their seat. That her 3 sons during her marriage with Laenor are not actually fathered by Laenor is an open secret. Her claim to the throne is based on a proclamation made by her father some 15 - 16 years ago and she has no way of knowing if the Hightowers are hell bent on installing her step brother Aegon as the next king how many of the great houses would support her claim.
 
I just feel like the recast actors and actresses have not really watched or considered what the previous actor for that character did or how they held themselves. Almost all of them portray the character a little bit differently from how the previous actor did and don't seem to have watched the scenes the previous person acted out. If they did they'd see that Aemond was a lot more whiny than badass, or Rhaeneyra (sp) was more hotheaded, confident, and stubborn and not quite as pacifying as she currently is. I think the more consistent ones are the actresses who played Alicent and Aegon (although in his case, the actor looks a bit too different in my view, especially when you contrast that with how Aemond looks). Too many years seem to fly by between episodes and that impacts how invested you are in the characters and their story arcs and you're missing a lot of info about what happened to them, etc. I feel it's not as good as it could have been and it'd have been excellent if they weren't in such a damn hurry.

The Rings of Power comparison is strange to me although I understand it since both shows are more or less running at the same time. Both shows have completely different problems and different aspects that make them great and I feel they're very different from each other. I'm a glass-half-full kind of person so I quite enjoy both shows on the whole, but I guess they're both not for everyone.
 
I just feel like the recast actors and actresses have not really watched or considered what the previous actor for that character did or how they held themselves. Almost all of them portray the character a little bit differently from how the previous actor did and don't seem to have watched the scenes the previous person acted out. If they did they'd see that Aemond was a lot more whiny than badass, or Rhaeneyra (sp) was more hotheaded, confident, and stubborn and not quite as pacifying as she currently is. I think the more consistent ones are the actresses who played Alicent and Aegon (although in his case, the actor looks a bit too different in my view, especially when you contrast that with how Aemond looks). Too many years seem to fly by between episodes and that impacts how invested you are in the characters and their story arcs and you're missing a lot of info about what happened to them, etc. I feel it's not as good as it could have been and it'd have been excellent if they weren't in such a damn hurry.

The Rings of Power comparison is strange to me although I understand it since both shows are more or less running at the same time. Both shows have completely different problems and different aspects that make them great and I feel they're very different from each other. I'm a glass-half-full kind of person so I quite enjoy both shows on the whole, but I guess they're both not for everyone.

Why would a person who has aged and experienced things as they did as part of a noble family, do and act as they were 12 to 15+ years ago? What person do you know acts similarly from around 11 to their early 20s?

This show isn't guaranteed a 2nd season and there isn't enough written or developed references (i.e. book source) to have every main character be deeply examined and slowly develop an arc when compared to GoT seasons 1 through 4.

People have to put a little more thought and empathy into these characters and try to remember this is about a destructive family civil war that ultimately had their last 2 living bloodlines in Pentos 200 years later and the actual Aegon be a labeled a bastard son of Lord Ned Stark with possibly 1 person (Lord Stark) even remotely aware and smart enough of who Jon Snow actually was.
 
Just watched episode 7. I’m loving this, think it’s far better than anyone would have assumed.

The big shame is the change in Rhaenyra’s actor. The most charismatic actor on the show has shifted from Milly Alcock to Olivia Cooke, which feels a bit jarring as it completely shifts how you feel about both characters.
 
It was a great episode and I’ve enjoyed watching it, with the exception of the Daemon battle scene stuff.

However, to basically undermine all that buildup and tension throughout the season and kick off the civil war with a simple misunderstanding is really poor.