Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed

  • So are the two older sons of Rhaenyra now matched up to be married with their cousins (Daemon's daughters)?
  • What's going on with the oldest son and the bug collecting daughter of Alicent? Seems strange that right after he is betrothed to his cousin he starts dancing with her.
  • Is eyepatch now supposed to be the biggest badass in the court? Or did Cole just let him win there?
He is the biggest badass because his Dragon is twice the size of any other but yeah his sword fighting becoming so good is a bit of a stretch.
 
So are the two older sons of Rhaenyra now matched up to be married with their cousins (Daemon's daughters)?
Yes.
What's going on with the oldest son and the bug collecting daughter of Alicent? Seems strange that right after he is betrothed to his cousin he starts dancing with her.
That was to get back at Aegon but without having to suggest having sex with her. Aegon is apparently married to his sister.
 
He is the biggest badass because his Dragon is twice the size of any other but yeah his sword fighting becoming so good is a bit of a stretch.

Not really a stretch. His brother clearly has other interests so Aemond has spent 6 years with more or less undivided attention from probably the best swordsman in the realm in Criston Cole.
 
It was a very good episode but I'm very annoyed with the last couple of minutes.
To have the entire war based on a simple misunderstanding seems like such a massive, cheap cop-out. Just like the viewers are eternally confused by all the similarly sounding names, that same confusion winds up being the cause of the entire plot and the defining conflict of the biggest house in Westeros? What a letdown.
 
It was a very good episode but I'm very annoyed with the last couple of minutes.
To have the entire war based on a simple misunderstanding seems like such a massive, cheap cop-out. Just like the viewers are eternally confused by all the similarly sounding names, that same confusion winds up being the cause of the entire plot and the defining conflict of the biggest house in Westeros? What a letdown.
Yeah I mean he made it clear in the throne room what his intentions were.
 
  • So are the two older sons of Rhaenyra now matched up to be married with their cousins (Daemon's daughters)?
  • What's going on with the oldest son and the bug collecting daughter of Alicent? Seems strange that right after he is betrothed to his cousin he starts dancing with her.
  • Is eyepatch now supposed to be the biggest badass in the court? Or did Cole just let him win there?
The bug collecting daughter Haelena is married to her brother Aegon. Jacerys starting dancing with her to get back at Aegon making snide comments to Rhaena ( Jacerys' bethrothed)

The eyepatch Aemond is pretty much his side's version of Daemon. Get ready for some chaos.
 
I can understand Alicent would be confused by the Aegon prophecy, but she's very naive to think in his dying moment Viserys would renounce Rhaenyra's claim to the throne. He's defended her (and her kids) so much & he just gave a speech on bringing the family together.
 
I agree but don't pretend it's noble. There are no noble characters. Apart from the king.
I never said she is noble, I said she is driven by honour which is determined by the world she lives in. Obviously on planet earth in real life she is a sickening individual.

King isn't noble either, he murdered his wife for the sake of his unborn baby. Also nicked the throne off his sister and is causing all types of shit with his bad decisions.
 
It was a very good episode but I'm very annoyed with the last couple of minutes.
To have the entire war based on a simple misunderstanding seems like such a massive, cheap cop-out. Just like the viewers are eternally confused by all the similarly sounding names, that same confusion winds up being the cause of the entire plot and the defining conflict of the biggest house in Westeros? What a letdown.

If that's where they're going with that last conversation then I 100% agree. What a complete farce if it is.

Enjoyed the episode immensely up until that bit.
 
That was good but it’s still incredibly confusing, especially with some actors changing, some not, there being about five new children every time jump and then them all having the same five names.

Paddy Constantine was brilliant. I’ve no idea how they can do his make up that good and then not bother at all with Daemon and Cole but whatever.

Oh and the young eyepatch kick looks like a hilarious panto villain now :lol:
 
I never said she is noble, I said she is driven by honour which is determined by the world she lives in. Obviously on planet earth in real life she is a sickening individual.

King isn't noble either, he murdered his wife for the sake of his unborn baby. Also nicked the throne off his sister and is causing all types of shit with his bad decisions.
Nicked the throne from his cousin that wasn't his choice though hundreds of nobles voted for that to happen. He changed the rules after so that the oldest inherited regardless of sex. He was told his wife was going to die anyway the only option he had was if his child survived. I'm not sure it was true though as we know that the citadel is in Hightown.

Alicent also went to her best friend's father's quarters to seduce him to making her queen the night of his wife's funeral. I don't see where you get the honour from.
 
Do people really think that was just penny royal tea given to Diana? I would wager a fair amount it was a more permanent solution from Alicent.

This show better not do the stupid TV trope of that mishearing the completely addled last words of the king as some kind of reason for Alicent. I'm thinking Alicent tells her dad, who uses it despite her wishes.

Given how many characters are called Aegon, tbh Aegon's vision is like 50/50 to come true regardless.
 
Aemond looks so over the top evil. He's a cartoon villain. I lijed the resolution to the sea snake's brother's bid for the drift woukd throne.

Especially after Darmon mouthing "say it:.
 
Do people really think that was just penny royal tea given to Diana? I would wager a fair amount it was a more permanent solution from Alicent.

This show better not do the stupid TV trope of that mishearing the completely addled last words of the king as some kind of reason for Alicent. I'm thinking Alicent tells her dad, who uses it despite her wishes.

Given how many characters are called Aegon, tbh Aegon's vision is like 50/50 to come true regardless.

It's basically Plan B tea in Westeros. It's been used before in the shows and in the books. And I think the previous episodes have shown it's clear the war would be happening regardless of the last words. That's just a little cherry on top
 
It's basically Plan B tea in Westeros. It's been used before in the shows and in the books. And I think the previous episodes have shown it's clear the war would be happening regardless of the last words. That's just a little cherry on top
I kinda thought it was more than just the usual tea. Like, we won't be hearing from Diana again tea :)
 
I kinda thought it was more than just the usual tea. Like, we won't be hearing from Diana again tea :)

They wouldn't really be using a poison that is only active when brewed though - "tea" specifically refers to moon tea, as there are many poisons that could be used that are colourless and tasteless (e.g. the Tears of Lys).

Extremely unlikely that they were trying to kill her. Not that Plan Tea is without risk, mind.
 
Viserys turning up to take his throne was great
Aemond looks so over the top evil. He's a cartoon villain. I lijed the resolution to the sea snake's brother's bid for the drift woukd throne.

Especially after Darmon mouthing "say it:.
Loved it and it's funny cos I said say it at the same time, wanting to see the consequences. It was worse than I thought it would be :lol:

Do people really think that was just penny royal tea given to Diana? I would wager a fair amount it was a more permanent solution from Alicent.

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Didn't the other maid come in and say that one was missing or didn't turn up?
Think she's gone / dead ...
 
King isn't noble either, he murdered his wife for the sake of his unborn baby.
I'm pretty sure that he didn't actually have much of a choice — if the baby doesn't come, it's still a death sentence for both, just like Daemon's case showcased later. So he tried to get something out of a non-winnable situation and lost.
 
There's a really good house of the dragon podcast that do episode instant reviews, in-depth reviews and fan questions three episodes a week. It's not the official one but the next popular one. Worth a listen for anyone whose unclear about whats going on (a fair few here apparently :lol: ).
 
Didn't the other maid come in and say that one was missing or didn't turn up?
Think she's gone / dead ...
That was Helaena, Aegon’s sister-wife, asking where the maid who had just been summoned to a long convo with Alicent and then took some Plan T was because their children weren’t dressed.

The maid was otherwise occupied, not dead. Or at least we weren’t given any reason to believe so.
 
I watched that dinner sequence again and it is definitely my top 5 scene in GOT universe. That dance sequence with Halaena and Jacaerys with Viserys looking on was so nicely done. That background music score was so well done as well. Ramin Djawadi is a strong contender for another Emmy for this score despite them using the original GOT theme for Intro sequence
 
That was the suggestion in the preview of the next episode.

Ah, I don't watch those. Still, I think it's obvious from the culmination of 8 episodes that cover what, 16+ years, that this war was happening by the point Viserys died no matter what. Nothing Viserys said on the deathbed would have changed that. I can certainly see Alicent and Otto using it to their advantage though as they probably would anything Viserys said or didn't say.
 
Actually you have it wrong, the post needed to be spoilered and labeled as containing info from a preview.
I love how this is a meme for GoT threads at this point… You’re talking about trailers for a future series, not previews for next week.
- future developments are defined as anything that hasn't been shown in an episode on TV somewhere in the world.
- "Next week on ..." clips and trailers aren't considered to be part of an episode and should never be posted even in spoiler tags.
 
I love how this is a meme for GoT threads at this point… You’re talking about trailers for a future series, not previews for next week.
So you can post about a commercial in spoilers but not footage that's shown during the airing of the show itself?

That's fine, thanks, I thought I knew what "preview" meant but apparently not.

I am a little curious, what is the thinking behind this? How is a commercial (preview) different from a "Next week on..." such that one is forbidden but the other isn't?
 
Didn't the other maid come in and say that one was missing or didn't turn up?
Think she's gone / dead ...
It’s possible but this scene certainly doesn’t prove anything. The maid is going to disappear one way or another, she’s not going to come back into his service next day — which his wife (not another maid) noticed it and unknowingly interrupted their chatter about the whole situation with Diana.
 
It’s possible but this scene certainly doesn’t prove anything. The maid is going to disappear one way or another, she’s not going to come back into his service next day — which his wife (not another maid) noticed it and unknowingly interrupted their chatter about the whole situation with Diana.

I think that her going missing is quite confusing and unnecessary if she is actually alive. Alicent seemed quite pained, more than she should have if it were just plan B tea. She can't have Dyana talking, and responded "I know you won't" when Dyana said she wouldn't tell anyone else. I think she killed her
 
FFS, that was Helaena. You see her in the dinner scene at the end

Is all this really confusing to people?
I was referring to when the Queen gave the servant the potion, had a look that made me think she was killing the servant. My pardons for bringing you to despair and feeling the need to swear at me.

I have no idea who Halaena is though.
 
This show is pretty good, better than I expected. It does not have the high end quality that GOT had at the beginning nor the scope or depth. But it has few lowlights (Daemon's silly one man army nonsense) and each of the recent episodes had scenes, where the tension was palpable and I was at the edge of my seat waiting for shit to go down.

The time jumps are a bit unfortunate, but understandable. Young Rhaenyra was a big loss. She had something more than the adult version.

Viserys is off the charts, though. That a "weak" King is carrying the show is remarkable. He is second to nobody in the whole GOT universe. Masterful performance. And his deterioration and death are scarily realistic (well, maybe except for the eye) as many who have seen people grow old, sick and die can confirm. The actor, directors and stylists did an amazing job.
 
Viserys turning up to take his throne was great

Loved it and it's funny cos I said say it at the same time, wanting to see the consequences. It was worse than I thought it would be :lol:


Didn't the other maid come in and say that one was missing or didn't turn up?
Think she's gone / dead ...
She's just been given a sack of gold. She's not going to need to work as a maid again.

The other woman wasn't a maid she was the Queen's daughter.