This is scorpions > dragons > scorpions all over again. Just be consistent, it shouldn't be hard for a good writer. I liked the episode as a whole, and the show so far, but it's a slightly bad sign that they couldn't find a better way to resolve the plot point.
Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed
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This is scorpions > dragons > scorpions all over again. Just be consistent, it shouldn't be hard for a good writer. I liked the episode as a whole, and the show so far, but it's a slightly bad sign that they couldn't find a better way to resolve the plot point.
Or just don't show it at all if it's this superficial thing that is merely there to move the plot along. Because even ignoring the fact that it made no sense, it wasn't even a good spectacle. I don't even think it was particularly well filmed, and the choreography was very poor. I mean, I don't even think the show treated it with any sort of seriousness. So at that point, you may as well have had a message be relayed to the king that Daemon was victorious.
At least then it would lend a certain mystique to Daemon as a character. Less is more, type of thing. That's how I think they should have done it anyway.
It was actually kind of comical. Shades of Monty Python. Zombie burnt guy nods his head, 7 or 8 pirates run out of a cave and slooowly jog towards blond lad. Pirates get sliced and diced. Zombie guy nods his head again. Another 7 or 8 identical pirates run out of an identical cave and get sliced and diced again. Rinse and repeat multiple times. Same buzz with the multiple repeated shots of lads firing arrows. Compared to the genuinely breathtaking choreography of battles from previous seasons it was pretty fecking shite.
And not ideal that this was the funniest moment in the season so far. Albeit unintentional. It’s all far too grim and serious. Desperately needs some of the humour and killer lines from the OG GoT.
I still like it though. I think. Will keep watching. For now. I liked the zombie guy getting whacked off screen and the image of his chopped in half body being dragged out of the cave was pretty cool.
And not ideal that this was the funniest moment in the season so far. Albeit unintentional. It’s all far too grim and serious. Desperately needs some of the humour and killer lines from the OG GoT.
I still like it though. I think. Will keep watching. For now. I liked the zombie guy getting whacked off screen and the image of his chopped in half body being dragged out of the cave was pretty cool.
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He'd be the most interesting character in the show. It's going to be empty without him.
Since bloodraven kills Daemon he has to be in the show. It doesnt make sense otherwise
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For a bunch of lads who crucify people and feed them to crabs, they seem to have a lot of respect for the ceremony of a surrender.
Think they could have done it off screen. It felt like they wanted something similar to Jon Snow standing and facing down all the horses from Battle of Bastards. But that was better done (despite the last second save too).
WIth crabby getting done off screen, its not a bad thing. They did a few battles from s1 and 2 of GoT off screen (and that might have been due to budget). But it was still affective and let you imagine as well, the brutality.
Im interested to see how many more scenes like this we get, because I reckon they should be saving it for Dragon vs Dragon (if that happens).
The Ramsay Bolton one was he was an exceptional archer? I guess these are just the cannon fodder dudes who are pretty bang average guys.
Well, you have a point on archers at distance (with an elevation change too right?). And to be fair to the show in the commentary
they said it was literally a suicidal run by Daemon as he didn’t expect to survive, so they were trying to convey that. He’d have sooner died than be humiliated by being saved by the grace of his brother. Thus him ‘shooting the messenger’
But regardless I’m over it; it’s not worth this much discussion in what was otherwise a good episode that was almost obese with symbolism that I can’t process yet.
They are different Daemons. Bloodraven and the Daemon he killed wont be born for another 50 years
He knew how to zig zag.
Ah that "spoiler" is brilliant bit of info. Makes way more sense.
I'm not someone that gets caught up in 'oh that's bad CGI, there's a starbucks coffee!' I'm not that perceptive. The issue with that scene was that it was extremely jarring and poorly written.
You can't have the scene of their battle council where all hope seems lost, the crab's strategies have nullified and frustrated them and the dragons for 2 years.. which is highly impressive.
Followed by a scene where men are sent a couple at a time, until he's injured and then the entire army charges out despite the crabfeeder obviously being wary of it being an ambush..
For someone that's being built up as a somewhat master tactician it's comically bad. Winter fell defence levels of bad.
It's hard for me not to then think, well feck where else is the writing going to go down the potty?
I mean if you are going to pick it apart... They looked pretty impressive hitting ships with cannon balls, but in two years you couldn't hit a dragon?
I am really enjoying the show. I just roll with the plot holes to enjoy the good stuff. Between this and Lord of the Rings, my geek flag is flying high.
I am really enjoying the show. I just roll with the plot holes to enjoy the good stuff. Between this and Lord of the Rings, my geek flag is flying high.
Dragons are much more mobile than ships.I mean if you are going to pick it apart... They looked pretty impressive hitting ships with cannon balls, but in two years you couldn't hit a dragon?
I am really enjoying the show. I just roll with the plot holes to enjoy the good stuff. Between this and Lord of the Rings, my geek flag is flying high.
How did he get leader of the crab army. If that was his great strategy
I can't get over how much Matt Smith sounds like Ramsay Bolton.
Oh shit, now I can't unhear it!
Yes, I said this earlier in the thread. His mannerisms at times too, but the voice for sure.
Well dayum.
Speak more or you will be ashes on the ground
Thought that one was a little boring.
Misses the multiple storylines and multiple main characters of GoT. And the humor. But it's decent enough, and something is going to happen surely.
Misses the multiple storylines and multiple main characters of GoT. And the humor. But it's decent enough, and something is going to happen surely.
Why did Daemon decide not to screw his niece?
Because he loves her and she isn't just another quick feck.
That was a pretty debaucherous episode...
Really good episode, loved how they shown the difference between Alicent and Rhaenyra. Can see people starting to make big mistakes... Otto should have kept a hold of that information, it wasn't smart revealing it to the King especially considering he stands to gain from telling him. Daemon is reckless, I haven't read the books etc but I can see it causing his demise.
Incredible episode, best one so far. Feels like so much has happened yet not a single battle was fought.
What happened apart from people screwing?
The king finally opening his eyes to Otto is one of the biggest plot advancements in the series so far.
This will cause some major problems. He should have just killed him.
He wants to discredit Rhaenyra and that's his only focus. Do you think Daemon is reckless because he saw through Otto's plan or do you think he's only looking for personal glory?
Sure he wants to discredit Rhaenyra so his grandson can sit on the throne, however, he misjudged how the King would respond to him delivering it personally. Perhaps he could have gone about delivering the information a different way, and kept his position. It wasn't a clever move to do it personally.
I think Daemon is a dangerous fantasist, he wants the former glory of the family and doesn't care about the "order of things" so to speak. It can work at times but will bite him on the arse in the future, he doesn't seem to care about the consequences of his actions.
Rhaenyra going undercover has ruined her. All I see now is Will Poulter.
Somehow managed to have a minute long sex scene without any nudity
Didn't even get to see Rhaenyra's tits or minge.
Good episode.
Better than last weeks episode.
The scene with Rhaenyra and Alicent at the end was excellent acting I thought, rewatched it a couple of times. Once daddy is gone though it's clear things are going to deteriorate fast.
I would say also that none of the characters are nearly as craven as in GoT, with Otto maybe coming the closest to being a Littlefinger type character. You can sympathize with most of the characters and see the developments more as a tragedy, whereas there were several characters who were just flat out evil in GoT.
That's because Alicent's daddy is a piece of shit.