Was gonna say this. Spell Twister over Soul Catcher anyday, especially with quick slash.
Previously I had Longnail instead of Soul Catcher and found my soul generation really lacking. Maybe Grubsong would do enough to compensate for that, I should try it out. Having another notch available does sound appealing. Defender's Crest for Lost Kin, Nailmaster's Glory for a lot of other fights, maybe even Dream Wielder. I'll give it a go later today. I've seen builds with Deep Focus + Quick Focus suggested elsewhere and I could see a use for that but it also means dropping Shaman Stone and Quick Slash. I love Quick Slash against the likes of Watcher Knights, Failed Champion and GPZ, it would be a big miss.
Yeah looking at the list of bosses in those first 2 again, that shouldn't be too hard. That's enough for the first 3 lifebloods right?
That is good going. Markoth is rough to beat but rougher still that when you do get him you often leave with little resources. So you only have Absolute Radiance left to unlock then.
Interesting, I might try it out but I would certainly miss Quick Slash against Zote and Failed Champion. Possibly the two bosses that charm feels the most effective against.
that's some vintage stuff.
For what it's worth I think you need to spank nail arts on no eyes.
And yeah I only use great slashes on No Eyes. I haven't lost to Markoth enough to hate him yet.
), but I've now finally made it to Absolute Radiance. Once I got past the Markoth - Zote combo of hell (which ended 6 runs), I made it to her easily. Having beaten the Radiance several times and after watching plenty of Absolute Radiance videos, I thought I would at least stand a chance. How wrong I was. This is going to take a ton of practice. Second most attempts on a boss fight in any video game was 45 for Orphan of Koss in the Bloodborne DLC. It's not even close.That's cool, the first win is the biggest.Got my first victory against Absolute Radiance! That took around 150 attempts, a personal record.
I definitely still need to clean up the platform phase and then the final phase. Everything before the platform phase feels pretty solid and I think I've sort of got the rhythm of the climb down. Still though, I can't exactly get carried away with one win in 150, even though I think the worst is behind me in terms of training.
At least I've now beaten every single boss in the game, that's something.
Same for the platform phase. The last few attempts I had rotten luck with this because she simply refused to teleport near me. I can stretch that phase for several minutes but eventually I run out of health and soul. If I don't get opportunities to inflict sufficient damage in that time, it's over. That's something I need to improve.
Did you always heal at the bottom when the climb starts? I usually try to do this as the beam is supposed to be inaccurate at that point. But she almost always immediately hits me with it. Her first beam is often right at me.
Almost never. If low on health I will heal during the platforms and any spare soul after that will be used on DDive or Shriek. However if I do have spare soul when she teleports upscreen then I will usually only heal if I have very low health and can get the extra hit because yes it's risky to stand still even at the bottom and also you can make good headway up the climb before she starts the beams, standing to heal means you have more to climb when she does start the beams. If I have three hits
The moment we were all waiting for!It's ridiculous right.
I've had the same thing happen with every major challenge in the game, like dying to the Kingsmoulds at the end of the Path of Pain and dying to God Tamer at the end of the Trial of the Fool (hard to believe I used to consider that a tough challenge back then!) several times. I should've known it was too easy when I reached that final phase at full health! I probably should've put the controller down and go for a walk before attempting that final phase. Oh well. Well done mate!Hell yes, it's done! It came down to very last mask again but I just kept jumping and hitting her and praying it would be enough. Once I saw her move to the middle, I just went for it. If that wasn't the final hit, I'm pretty sure I would've been dead. Of course it had to be like that.
My hands are still shaking. I'm not normally one to go seeking for ultra hard challenges so this was by far the single hardest thing I've ever attempted in a video game. Worth it though, I actually came to enjoy the entire Pantheon run once I got good enough at all of the bosses. The early part is perhaps a bit tedious with all of the easy bosses, but that's okay. This is enough for me though, I've got no desire whatsoever to try this with any bindings. That's a whole other level of skill.
I remember @dumbo posting that Godhome was its own separate game and he actually preferred it over the base game. I wouldn't put it that strongly but I do think it's fantastic on its own. Some of the unique bosses that were added are among the best in the enitre game. I'd say Sisters of Battle, Sheo, Pure Vessel and Nightmare King Grimm are my personal favourites, so three of those are exclusive to Godhome.
I might try some of the bosses on radiant now, but I'm not going to make it a real target. Perhaps a steel soul run, that could be fun.
I don't know man, I sort of don't want to leave Hollow Knight behind, even after all this. Says enough about how phenomenal this game is. Btw just had to finish the game again to get the Mister Mushroom ending (wtf?) and did base game Radiance again. That was so stupidly easy, it's incredible what training Absolute Radiance does to your skill level. I did the whole thing except the climb hitless without even trying. The incredibly slow laser caught me off guard during the climb.), how many attempts did you need to do P5 with the harder bindings? Just reaching AbsRad must be insane with charm binding for example, and then actually fighting her? That's the stuff of nightmares. It's such a punishing fight. The amount of times a simple mistake can lead to 3 masks of damage due to getting knocked off the platforms in the process, it's seriously frustrating.Haha no way! I love the game but if I try this, I'll keep going until I do it, which means I'll play no other gamesThanks guys!
Just out of curiosity (again, I'm NOT doing this
And I agree, who's next? Come on @Dirty Schwein and @Moby, you know you want it!
Nail binding took 3 attempts, Soul took 1, mask binding took 1 if I remember rightly. Much of the challenge with these bindings is simply finding and fine tuning the charm combo. Nail bindings is definitely the easiest, once you get the charm right.Thanks guys!
Just out of curiosity (again, I'm NOT doing this
And I agree, who's next? Come on @Dirty Schwein and @Moby, you know you want it!
I did try one pantheon as the last thing in the game before moving on, and the first one of course wasn't a big deal. But really you can't undermine the sheer amount of practice and patience you guys have put in to get a good hang of each and every boss to the point of getting past all of them in one go! The way I see it, you pretty much have to forego most of the things you do on a daily basis and pretty much go after the game as your primary job! It's more of a dream as of now, maybe sometime when I have a bit of time off work I can think of attempting it haha. At least for me it would really need a few days of sitting on the game and pretty much doing nothing else!Haha no way! I love the game but if I try this, I'll keep going until I do it, which means I'll play no other games
Maybe try Celeste? I've nearly completed everything in that. It's really fun.
Edit: Also another thing with a game like this is you need to go as far as you can when the muscle memory is in tact, which is what I had at the time I did the final stuff, since then I've played a few other games and so maybe you can say it is a 'good' thing you can't just go back to it whenever you want, as it definitely keeps calling me back haha!
On a similar note it feels all these speedrunners and youtubers are just always cheating! Having seen you guys put in so much effort and dedication to finish it once or a few times, and I wouldn't classify you as casual gamers as you seem to have loads of experience and are top quality gamers, it's a bit of a joke to see all those guys finish this on every attempt. Even people doing P5 hitless like it's nothing! I get it that some of them pretty much play this game for a living (like fireborn who quit his job and just streams full time now) but still they are still humans.
The nail binding is the quickest. The binding doesn't affect nail arts so using cyclone slash on the collector and dash slash on Markoth simplifies everything. Quick slash and grubsong to build soul, then every other charm is maximising spell damage. A number of bosses can be blitzed within 20 seconds or so with heavy spells and you can do the whole thing in about 40 minutes. The no charm binding on the other hand took over an hour to reach AR. The only good thing about it is that you can duplicate the restriction in HOG for practice by just leaving off the charms, whereas the other bindings can't be replicated as easily without modding.
Nah just keep going you pick up the timings of each enemy as you fight (and fall to) them. Then they become easy even though you struggled at first.I finally got around to starting this. Reading this thread my struggles in the first few hours do not bode well for what lies ahead
