I'd probably take 10-15 hours of gameplay (dying) to go from 93/94 to 107 so I'm not really enticed by the thought tbh
Grimm Troupe does have some actual rewards but yeah, the main incentive is just to experience that brilliant second boss fight. The additional charm notch you can pick up by defeating the weaker version of the boss is priceless though. Godhome doesn't give any rewards, unless you count exclusive boss fights as rewards, but in that case you're probably looking for the challenge and joy of fighting them anyway. Even if you're not interested in that, it can still be fun to poke around there and just do some boss fights you might've found fun during the base game.
The last 5% missing for me are Trial Of Fools (which I think I could have done if I tried) and the 4 pantheons (which I was never going to do as I'm not into boss rush games).I'd probably take 10-15 hours of gameplay (dying) to go from 93/94 to 107 so I'm not really enticed by the thought tbh
I can just see myself struggling my way through the pantheon and then being unable unable see it through. Heck Grey Zote seems impossible to me. The less about my encounters with Grimme the better!
I'll probably try to wrap up the trials before ending it given I've reached the boss on the last one a few times.
Platforms?
That was the hardest boss for me overall.
Grimm is a top-3 boss in the game. And for me the best and most enjoyable fight by a long margin.
Come on man, get on with the pantheons already!
Haha no way, I have no interest in that whatsoever.
It's close, but I'd have Pure Vessel and Sisters of Battle above it. Maybe even regular Mantis Lords as a more fun fight, but that just doesn't feel right once you've played Sisters of Battle.
Did you actually manage to do all the pantheons? Using all the boss buffs (I think that's what they are)? Seems an impossible task. It's like Sekiro, adore the game bur there's no way I'm good enough to do the boss rush mode in that.
I'm now wondering why I'm at a mere 93 per cent.
Yeah I edited it. But yeah, can't have finished the game without playing that. The whole construct is fantastic, such a smooth pattern to it. There were times I was soo into it I'd start keeping up with the bgm and get into a proper rhythm.
Not all, I did 3 and yeah, it's not for everybody. By buffs do you mean bindings? Yeah that's reserved for god gamers like @dumbo . You pretty much have to know each move like the back of your hand to get to that level and never get hit.
I did stop yeah. Blame Bloodborne.
You're gonna randomize rooms? Good luck.
Yeah. I did it in one session I think but just kept on panicking on that stupid 4th phase. The orbs absolutely did me in as did the side rain.
In P5, you need all the help you can get! As for Zote, spamming DD is not going to be an option if you arrive with a couple of masks and no soul from making a mess of that fecking no floor Markoth hell.
Yeah that sequence is crazy.Yea, eventually I just learned to be patient d camp out on the middle platform. I'm only now really going after her more actively. I stupidly died several times during the climb, the first time I beat her I went up with 3 masks thinking I wouldn't make it and somehow that made me calm enough to actually beat her :')
Watcher Knights without double jump and shade cloak is no fun, that's tricky for everyone who isn't an experienced speedrunner. Pogoing GPZ? I assume you mean during his sword flail, because all other times his constant and erratic jumping will mess you up. Even during the sword flail I sort of hate it, since you can never predict when he'll fall down.
Yeah we were discussing that here a few days back, once you have spent ages in Godhome with a maxxed out knight then going back to basics is a pain. You pretty much gotta max out the DPS using nail and spells in perfect tandem and never taking hits.
Team Cheery sure love to take the piss all the time.
I know one day I'm gonna sit through the hall of gods, memorize every move and go for it. Sounds like the coming christmas break.At least there's that sweet trophy for completing P5.
I just kept hitting HK not realizing you could use the dream nail. Will give this a go.Yeah I edited it. But yeah, can't have finished the game without playing that. The whole construct is fantastic, such a smooth pattern to it. There were times I was soo into it I'd start keeping up with the bgm and get into a proper rhythm.
@amolbhatia50k did you at least get the True Ending and kill The Radiance? Not the most enjoyable fight but largely satisfactory the first time you get the bitch down.
Yeah fight the Radiance for sure. It's a relatively long fight but you get the good ending.I just kept hitting HK not realizing you could use the dream nail. Will give this a go.
It's a bit of a shame that my skill level at this is not great as I don't feel like putting the game down soon! But I guess I've covered most of the experience. Will watch some of the rest on YouTube. Oh well, I only have the incredible Outer Wilds to replay along with its highly rated DLC content
PV is seriously hard to get a hang of. I rate its learning curve above NKG in difficulty. You can get away with mistakes against NKG, but a single error against PV can escalate extremely quickly. It's also the hardest fight outside of AbsRad for me to get back into if I've been away from the game. Just so fast and relentless.
That's not an exaggeration, seriously.Bloody hell.Enjoy AbsRad, took me 150 attempts for my first win against her.
caf wouldn't let me respond earlier so I'm hoping this goes through. But yea that has been my experience with PV though I haven't fought NKG as far as I remember, maybe one or two times, so I can't really compare the two. I feel like the difference between PV and THK is higher than the other bosses that have two versions.PV is seriously hard to get a hang of. I rate its learning curve above NKG in difficulty. You can get away with mistakes against NKG, but a single error against PV can escalate extremely quickly. It's also the hardest fight outside of AbsRad for me to get back into if I've been away from the game. Just so fast and relentless.
Enjoy AbsRad, took me 150 attempts for my first win against her.
I've actually been going back as well recently!
Thanks for that mate.I've actually been going back as well recently!
The most important things in Trial of the Fool for me are enemy spawn points and being comfortable moving around with charged nail arts. At some point I changed my entire control scheme purely so I could use everything independently: keeping attack charged, jumping and dashing. There's going to be a lengthy no-floor section where you'll need to do a lot of continuous wall jumping and with the default control scheme, I found it incredibly hard to do that reliably while keeping attack charged. So make sure you find something you're comfortable with.
You'll want to be able to quickly finish off enemies with great slash right as they spawn, especially Primal Aspids (feck them!). Nailmaster's Glory is a fantastic charm for just one notch, use it. Unbreakable Strength is a no brainer and I personally always include Quick Slash as well. Some people like to rely on Hiveblood for healing in the no-floor phase, but I personally dislike that strategy. Four notches is too expensive and you're better off killing the enemies as quickly as possible.
My loadout (IIRC, it's been a while):
- Unbreakable Strength: duh. Make sure it's unbreakable and not fragile, we're not in the dream world like the pantheons
- Quick Slash: it's not an absolute must, as you'll be doing a lot of damage with nail arts. Can be replaced by Mark of Pride or Shaman Stone for example, or perhaps even a combination like Soul Catcher/Spell Twister + Dream Wielder
- Quick Focus: the quick heals cannot be underestimated
- Nailmaster's Glory: a must
- Grubsong: you'll be taking damage so getting some soul for healing in return is always good
Obviously this relies on having all available charm notches. If you don't have them, get them. Goes without saying you'll want pure nail and max masks and soul vessels.
After the no-floor section (it will take you a while to reach this point, I'd expect), don't panic. There will be a steady onslaught for a while but at some point, you'll be getting favourable enemy combinations and you'll be able to leave just one slow moving enemy alive. Abuse this situation to dream nail that enemy. Build up full masks and soul ahead of the boss that way. Dream Wielder makes this part easier which is why I've included it as a potential charm replacement, but it's not necessary. Once you reach the boss, if you're having trouble with it (I did initially), you'll be able to practice it in the Hall of Gods.
And that's pretty much all I've got at this point. Practice, memorize the rounds, know when it's safe to heal and try not to lose your mind over the no-floor section.
That's a very cnutish part of the run.
