They have put out a 10000 $ cash prize. Many people wouldn't mind getting that.
High-profile killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO in New York
- Thread starter VorZakone
- Start date
Same way politicians across the world sleep every night.
They'll need it to pay for the healthcare their insurance will refuse to cover.
No sympathy whatsoever over this dude. Living the life of luxury whilst refusing desperate families their coverage.
Looks like it could be the first killing in the Se7en film
Looks like it could be the first killing in the Se7en film
Yes, I'm a big flan of dessert.
what an absolutely pathetic sum for a mega-billion corporation to offer to find the killer of their CEO.
They denied a single ambulance ride to fund that.
You don't become rich by paying everyone what they want.
the police are putting up the reward probably
I'd be surprised if the company cares enough to put up that much even
I'd be surprised if the company cares enough to put up that much even
And she’s a nurse as well, right? It’s a disgraceful system.
I hope she’s doing ok now.
My wife is a nurse and it drives her crazy. Especially when the insurance company is telling them how to treat a patient.
On the flip side, I had a number of medical issues this year and my provider’s financial office were fraudulently balance billing me for things that had been paid for, and making triple claims off the one procedure. Bizarrely my insurance customer service people really went to bat for me, though I had to do a lot of work about it. I screamed at a few people over the phone
This is the kind of “tyranny” that Americans are supposed to use their guns to defend/rebel/fight against
My first job after university (late 1990s) was software developer for a well known pensions, life assurance, critical illness provider.
There was a guy who camped outside the main entrance for over a year campaigning for a family member that had a heart attack but wasn’t covered due to the exact nature of the problem.
Common sense (at least to me) was that it should have been paid but “technicalities”.
Not sure what happened in the end, but I heard they were due 7 figures that weren’t paid.
It’s not just US companies that are arseholes.
There was a guy who camped outside the main entrance for over a year campaigning for a family member that had a heart attack but wasn’t covered due to the exact nature of the problem.
Common sense (at least to me) was that it should have been paid but “technicalities”.
Not sure what happened in the end, but I heard they were due 7 figures that weren’t paid.
It’s not just US companies that are arseholes.
On a more serious note to that point tho: I do think it's a bit hypocritical if someone is fine with this and otherwise opposed to gun violence.
I get the sentiment about what this man represented - but shooting someone in the middle of a street is not something that should be normalized regardless.
Neither is the American healthcare system something that should have been normalised and yet here we are.
I don't endorse vigilante deaths, if that's what you are talking about. I would also like the law to be fair and just and punish the wrong doers and not protect them by providing them a hundred loopholes.
I posted something similar in the “bad things….” thread. I have UMR (subsidiary of UHC) and they really went to bat for me when Duke got “creative” with their billing. Both side of healthcare are greedy pieces of shit whose evil is tempered only by having genuinely good people working for them.
Can’t afford a better one? Or, often health insurance here is linked to your job, maybe the company doesn’t provide an affordable or viable alternative.
Most of what I’m about to say is second hand knowledge at best so I’ll happily stand corrected: For kaiser and their 7%, my understanding is Kaiser is quite strict about only covering their own providers. But the rejection rate is quite low within that looking at that chart. I’ve a friend who is a doctor in California in network for Kaiser and a lot of friends and family who live there, apparently it’s all over the place so it’s quite a useful insurance provider (though no idea of the costs). Here in Maryland it’s not as frequent, my neighbour has Kaiser and she had a brain aneurysm and they had to take her past a few hospitals to a hospital in Baltimore to treat her. Which in itself is insane
he was the father of two young boys, and had a wife
Next do the billionaires.
Thousands of people also had children and spouses, and he championed policies to let them die so he could get a better end of year bonus. The silver lining is since the dude valued money over life he gave family the greatest gift for the holidays.
I don't know about the 30% number (it started circulating yesterday with no source), but for your question:
I have United because my employer offers me United. That's it. At my pay level, and with no dependent family, I have the option of paying between 60 and 140/month for various plans offered by United (employer pays significantly more than that for me, every month). The cheapest plan (60) is absolute shit, so I pay 80. I also pay a few dollars more for access to pharma, dental and vision.
But of course, the catch is that this is just insurance, not medical payment. Seeing a specialist costs 40/visit, one month's supply of one medicine costs 30, going to the ER cost 100-150 for the visit plus whatever for the procedures, a tooth extraction at the dentist cost 200, etc.
I've been mostly fine in terms of denials, though they've got *much* stingier about medicine supplies.
Don't you know you have the greatest healthcare in the world? You should be more grateful.
Wild to see people posting other health insurance CEO details and photos. And I'm not saying that taking out every boss wouldn't be a just strategy, I just hope that this public outpouring of righteous indignation can help fuel the movement in the US to create a civilised health care system.
I've been reading some of the stories that people are sharing and it's heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.
I've been reading some of the stories that people are sharing and it's heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.
WE the best because we successfully treat the most cases of anything in the world, see how that works?
But on a serious note, the top end of healthcare quality in this country is really the best, no contest there. 99% cant afford it though.
Last edited:
Nothing will happen. The public will move on as soon as the next big thing hits the airwaves. As others have said the insurance carriers are just a part of the problem. There are many many others relying on the way it works now and it works just fine for them. The amount of money that goes into healthcare here is stupendous.
Having said that - I even admit that for many like myself the right to complain is basically taken away bc my healthcare is actually great - better than my family in Europe. But I also know for the majority it's not. At least at my company though we do everything possible to make sure no one ever has to worry about the cost of healthcare. Unfortunately we re pretty uncommon in that.
I guess we have to take the victories when they come!
It's sick but also darkly amusing that the conference Brian Thompson was going to still went ahead after his shooting.
Everything I'm reading about the corperation, the US healthcare, the murdered individual and the response of those within the company and the reaction from the general public feels like we're all living in Paul Verhoeven's head.
Everything I'm reading about the corperation, the US healthcare, the murdered individual and the response of those within the company and the reaction from the general public feels like we're all living in Paul Verhoeven's head.
For a second there I thought you were feeling sympathy
Nope.
Another bad one gone!
So much for the genius vigilante idea
the anti-hero America craves
They have found bullet casing with words on them. Deny, defend and depose. Seem too similar to delay, deny and defend, the strategies insurers commonly use to avoid paying claims, to be a coincidence.
Depose? Depose is a legal term (written sworn testimony in a court case?) or it could be more in the sense of dethroning someone in a position of power I guess. So it sounds more an more like the motivation was a refused claim.
Depose? Depose is a legal term (written sworn testimony in a court case?) or it could be more in the sense of dethroning someone in a position of power I guess. So it sounds more an more like the motivation was a refused claim.
That's going to whittle it down.
Oh, I agree. Someone asked if he had a family, and this was the answer to that specific question.
To break it down, I think there are other ways that should be explored first for showing displeasure with someone. Can't leap to assassination every time. I feel bad for his kids, but as mentioned here, I also feel bad for everyone who had lifesaving medical treatments denied because of some AI algorithm designed and championed by soulless fecking ghouls like this guy.
feck sake, don't die for nyash!
Where are we going to find a disgruntled customer or a relative or friend of a dead/disgruntled customer?
Should reduce the potential pool of suspects to no more than 50/60 million people.