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High-profile killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO in New York
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My $570 a month medication, with insurance is ..... $0Just had a look at what my €35 a month prescription would cost if I was living in the States.... around $700 a month
For the full dystopia in Technicolor, go to GoFundMe and search for people trying to raise money for life or death surgeries.
I’m actually sad this guy has been arrested. Legit folk hero for a stupid and violent (and ill) nation. I was hoping the CEOs would be shitting themselves so hard it would force change - even incremental. Was hoping for Light Yagami.
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Snitching on company’s time. They’ll penalise him for it.
Fetterman
Josh Shapiro
Ben Shapiro
Ana Kasparian
Piers Morgan
Mayor Adams
Jessie Watters
Aaron Rupar
Tim Pool
These are all the loudest dissenting voices that I've seen, and all have been chastising the public. They probably appear to many people as having very different outlooks (liberal/conservative, Dem/Rep, left/right, politician/journalist).
I think it's a good exercise in media literacy for people to think about the things these people loudly claim to disagree with each other on and how when it gets heated, what things they all fall in line behind.
Dogs come in many different breeds but are all dogs.
How much is your insurance though?
Surely they'll be on the lookout for Mario next
Yup, they are searching plant pots and large drainpipes all over the US.
And how much is your insurance?
It's not a perfect analogy but there's a bit of the John Brown about this guy. Who for those that don't know was an abolitionist primarily in Kanses that committed some pretty heinous crimes against pro-slavery people including murder. He's now venerated as an anti-hero because his cause was just.
What does a sane person do when the law/the situation is insane. Clearly the answer for most is do nothing, but a few lash out.
What does a sane person do when the law/the situation is insane. Clearly the answer for most is do nothing, but a few lash out.
The gofundme will probably raise much more.
Elephants are indeed very smart.
That makes no sense. The Secretary of State as in Anthony Blinken? Isn't it the Justice Department that has to do so?
Either way, the fact he works for McDonald's is enough punishment.
Shame though he got caught, CEO's across the land can laugh again in their moneybags whilst not one damn single thing has been learnt other than greed is grand.
Shame though he got caught, CEO's across the land can laugh again in their moneybags whilst not one damn single thing has been learnt other than greed is grand.
feck sake man, why we have to stay focus brothers!
I don't know, if they have been paying attention to the online reaction, they may think twice about walking the streets of a major city alone. It will probably just result in extra security, but I don't think it's just going to be forgotten by these type, because the guy was caught.
Copycatting is also a very real thing, so I doubt things will ever be as they were for these types again - they’re playing for the highest stakes with no do-overs.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, if there are already people contemplating or planning a similar attack. I'm guessing the FBI will be monitoring who searches the names and whereabouts of major health insurance executives. But I guess Mangione was able to do it, because he had the element of complete surprise - any copy-cat certainly won't have that for the foreseeable future.
Apparently people are calling his lawyer offering to pay his legal fees. He's got quite the fan club. I've seen him described as Cutie McShootie.
Correct me if I'm wrong as I've experienced neither, but I don't think that erectile dysfunction prevents you from firing a gun?
I'm very thankful that I have experience in neither as well!
wasn't being too serious
It costs me less than $200 a month though it does cost the company I work for much more
Nobody doubts the US system is fecked but blaming the insurance sector ignores the rest of the industry which are just as culpable, comparing prices across countires is pointless, there's too many variables involved
It is similar except he arguably has more support than John Brown who split the racial divide. This guy is lionized by almost everyone who has had a run in with an insurance company and is not a millionaire nor a billionaire.
That's what you get for being a rat.
So it's not really $0. $200 a month, plus I imagine several times that paid by your employer is crazy.
It costs me less than $200 a month though it does cost the company I work for much more
Nobody doubts the US system is fecked but blaming the insurance sector ignores the rest of the industry which are just as culpable, comparing prices across countires is pointless, there's too many variables involved
The insurance companies are a major part of the machinery and get their slice. They're not non-profit organisations.
That $200 covers a lot more than just the drugs I need, I did post earlier in this thread that it's a total of $800 + per month between what I pay and what my company pays
It is crazy but there are other condsiderations that need to be taken in to account, I pay less tax than I would in Europe, as would probably most Americans, my overall living costs here are much lower than they were in the UK, on balance I would say I'm actually better off here in the US than I would be in the UK financially, not the case for everyone of course
Insurance companies are obviously a major part of the system, TBH I don't even think they are the worst part of it, the drugs companies and some of the providers are worse IMO
Yes, that's why its such an uphill slog to switch to Universal healthcare in the states. The entire industry is currently private and all of them have lobbying arms in Congress to prevent any substantial changes to the system.
Obviously true but I still don't see why there's such resistance to the Government providing a public option, even the general populace appear to be against that, you would still have a choice
Because it would be seen as as slippery slope. Once you allow a public option, momentum for full on universal healthcare would increase. At least that's how Republicans and the corporations who benefit from the current system will see it. Its a similar concept to gun control, where the likes of the NRA believe any small, incremental increases in gun control laws will quickly spiral into far more substantial ones.
Hopefully the Dem party is able to read the room and finally take a more populist position on healthcare in 28.
A sizeable section of the population would prefer to be charged ever higher premiums as long as their money does not benefit the uninsured. They would literally prefer to make corporations with billions in revenue even more profitable than any portion of their money subsidise those with less means.
For many in the US, healthcare not being available to all is not a bug - it’s a feature.
Yet the very same people railed against the part of the ACA that penalised you via the tax system if you didn't have insurance - it really amazes me how so many can be so stupid!
You pay more than 200 a month in taxes to get " free" healthcare. The key is what @Red in STL said that his company pays much more for it. Meaning that if you don't have a job you are or fecked without insurance or you pay much more than 200 a month for a private insurance that covers you way less. Also, lets not go to pre existing conditions that is not a problem in public health care countries
US works great when everything goes great but might get ultra shitty when things dont go as great because it has no safety net