Sad to see him go. Masterclass from woodward in extending Jones and Young and dilly dallying on Herrera until his final year.
Herrera confirms his departure
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I think this is a huge blow. One of the few players we have been able to rely on who turns up for the biggest games. We are absolutely fecked for at least next season. 6th beckons
Not on Ed this one... Here's Ander last April saying he wouldn't stay even though he had an offer.
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...-premier-league-messi-cristiano-valverde.html
I’ve read somewhere that PSG are offering a five year contract for £200k a week. Yeah I like Herrera but I’m somewhat glad we’re not matching those terms taking into account his age of 30 this year. At the end of the day we can do better.
that's interesting, and surprisingly went un noticed at the time
Any tweets from the players on his departure ?
He won't be there five years, but it makes sure they will get something for him.
In the words of Fall Out Boy: "Thanks for the memories, even though they weren't so great"
Fine player, but someone who should be improved upon to get back into contention.
Pity we get nothing for him, but hopefully not bowing to ridiculous contract demands is a sign of a positive shift in direction at the club.
Fine player, but someone who should be improved upon to get back into contention.
Pity we get nothing for him, but hopefully not bowing to ridiculous contract demands is a sign of a positive shift in direction at the club.
Still, we're losing him on a free. The best time to negatiate a player extension is when there is two years left on his contract. That way if you don't reach an agreement, you can sell them at market price. Otherwise, with a year left you will be fleeced by the buying club knowing that you are desperate to sell, and in the final year you will be fleeced by the player on wages knowing that they can walk to anyone for free as it is happening with Herrera.
Yep and the army of twittah plebs out in force with the usual brain dead, knuckle dragging sentiments
FcUk eD hE's A CnUt
Both true, he played with passion but we need a better quality of player than him.
In a different sort of system, thinking about it id have wanted to keep him but theres so much wrong with our midfield, style of play in general that hes not worth the salary he wanted.
Compare our midfield to liverpools for example under klopp, i believe he'd have suited them given klopp works miracles with their average midfield
The signs were there. When the other players were posting videos of them going batshit crazy after our win vs PSG, He didn't post anything, not even a single word.
He was offered a deal at least 2 years ago and simply chose to stall. This interview is from 13 months ago where he admits talks have already been on going but his preference even then was to let the deal run down and walk away for free. He had no desire for the club to make money back on him, about as two faced as you could get basically.
If folks want to rewind a bit here, this means Ander was offered a deal before Sanchez was at the club so this rhetoric going around he is "protesting" Sanchez's wage is rubbish.
Likewise for Smalling, Jones & Young. The latter of those took a pay cut to hang round another year, but Ander wanted two and half times more than his current salary.
Smalling & Jones only got new deals in the last few months.
Yet Ander has admitted his mind was made up long ago he would walk for free.
The point they are making is that he a squad player and people are going on like we're losing Roy Keane.
He was never going to be Captain as he isn't good enough to be first choice in a Top 4 team let alone a title challenging one.
He's gone, get a better player in and move on.
Don't get me wrong, I wish we were keeping him because he's been one of our most consistent players and we always look better with him in the side but he's not THAT good.
He's one of those players that keeps things ticking nicely but you can't really look to for any creativity. We can still do better.
He's one of those players that keeps things ticking nicely but you can't really look to for any creativity. We can still do better.
If that actually happens then great, but it's more likely to be the usual suspects.
Valencia is getting a send off after all.
The club is letting him go rather than him rejecting the club though, there's a difference.
You always think better of the girls you dump rather than the ones who dump you.
Doesn't fill me with any great optimism that when arguably the main things we need to change are the attitude and application of our squad, it's the two players who epitomise what we should be going for that are the first to see the door.
Sounds plausible, to me.
He didn't say that.
He said: "Voy a cumplir el año que me queda pero no sé si renovaré. Hemos empezado a hablar pero no hay nada decidido todavía." Or "I am going to fulfill the year that I have left but I do not know if I will renew. We have started talking but nothing has been decided yet."
Oh I wasn’t suggesting what you were saying was wrong. I’ve been guilty of fanboy-ing him in the past.
End of the day he’s being offered way more money at a club in the CL, mickey mouse league or not. Even if he’s a bench warmer, it’s not a lot different to his time here which has been on and off.
We should be aiming higher in our calibre of player though, I don’t think it’s particularly hard to buy a better midfielder for a modest price. This club just make it hard work thanks to the muppets at all levels.
So nobody else wanted him on a free at £200k p/w at age 29, but when he's 33 they'll be happy to pay a fee and give him £200k a week... If he's such a bargain at £200k where were Barca, Real or Bayern in all this?
Amazing how flip flop this forum is, one week it's we pay insane wages, next it's we should have paid Herrera a week what Liverpool pay Salah on his new contract.
He will have made his money then, so think he would take a big paycut and go home.
Well in that case, the only thing we can blame the club for is not selling him once he had that interview. However, I guess they thought they could convince him to stay.
The club were absolutely stupid giving him a platform to say his goodbye. Now they've created more toxicity because fans are dragging the decision makers, when the fact is he'd already made up his mind.
Just more depressing negativity.
The goodbye video sums up what's wrong with the club right now - complicating a simple situation. Both club and Herrera deserve a thundering slap for putting that together. No complaints but just leave quietly.
Why argue over semantics? The thought of leaving was clearly already there.
Absolutely there are better, younger options out there who provide us with better upside that Ander does.
I've mates on Facebook going mental over this and saying Ander is striking / protesting cause of the salaries of De Gea, Sanchez & Martial. What absolute rubbish.
I didn't watch the video, but I guess a lot of fans did. Mind, I'm working to avoid the negativity around us at the moment and have other sports to distract me
The truth is, no one knows what's really going on but we're getting wound up by the media and people being allowed to put forward their narratives, however negative, with the full assistance of the club
Such negativity and toxicity is also not helping the fanbase. Most of the players piss me off, but I can't imagine I'd be very productive in that sort of environment if I were playing for us.Dont want to see him today.
Herrera chose to run his contract down so he can leave on a free. That doesn't deserve a send off.
Eyes service 2 faced average player. He should come and snatch the 200k contract from us. Wonders shall never end.
Is it me or did the links to PSG take flight after we beat them in the CL? Can't help but feel they turned his head to mess with us for knocking them out, wouldn't be suprised.
Yes, that’s the kind of club they are.
They just signed a nearly 30 average spanish midfielder on a 5 year contract, so the joke is on them.
Can someone explain to me why/how Herrera who arguably is one of the better players in the squad, is let go, when in the same season we gave a 33-year old Ashley Young a new contract at more than 100K a week, Jones and Smalling also got given new contracts all for more than 100K a week.
I don't think Young/Jones are better than Herrera, (yes I know they play different positions). Smalling maybe on par.
Crazy?
I don't think Young/Jones are better than Herrera, (yes I know they play different positions). Smalling maybe on par.
Crazy?
Because he chose not to sign the contract on offer despite there being discussions since at least last season.
“Let go”. He has decided to go elsewhere. There’s no difference in the club’s approach towards Herrera than there was towards Jones, Young, Smalling. In fact he was probably offered more. The only difference is that Jones, Young, Smalling chose to stay. Maybe because they care about the club more or (more likely) because they know no other top club would touch them and therefore they’re not going to get a better offer elsewhere.
Maybe if more of our better players, like Herrera, were willing to commit their futures to the club then the club wouldn’t feel as much pressure to tie down the lesser members of our squad with new deals.
Sad to see him go.
Horrific that he's off on a free, and yet utter pub-league players in Young and Jones given new contracts
Horrific that he's off on a free, and yet utter pub-league players in Young and Jones given new contracts
The hierarchy at the club have a lot to answer for, his contract mismanagement is a joke while mediocre players continue to be offered pointless extensions. I wish him all the best, a proper player and a proper man that always gave his all. We need more men like him at the club.
Excellent lad who was really passionate about the shirt and showed it quite clearly. Good luck to him. He will make any team look better and hungrier.
Semantics? Saying he clearly stated he had no intention of staying is wildly different to stating that he doesn’t know if he’ll renew and nothing’s been decided.