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2016-17 Performances


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I think some people on here need to remember whilst the guy speaks very good english, it's still not his first language and sometimes what he might want to imply with what he says can be taken differently, or by adding a word in where most of us wouldn't the clarity of a statement might change.
 
It's a bizarre situation to be in, discovering that your 27 year old, £30 million signing needs half a season of special attention to be make any sort of contribution.

Really hopeful that he'll come good, but I'm absolutely flabbergasted as to how we manage to find ourselves in situations like these with our transfer strategy.
 
It's a bizarre situation to be in, discovering that your 27 year old, £30 million signing needs half a season of special attention to be make any sort of contribution.

Really hopeful that he'll come good, but I'm absolutely flabbergasted as to how we manage to find ourselves in situations like these with our transfer strategy.
I think its more a case of Mourinho needing them to adapt to his style... Like if Arsenal, Liverpool or City bought him, I get the feeling that he'd be flying right now in their styles. Mourinho has a more controlled and conservative approach so he wants his wide players to always be focused defensively and all that. Both Di Maria and willian as Mourinho says struggled in the first half season under him, so I wouldnt say its just a player issue.
 
I think its more a case of Mourinho needing them to adapt to his style... Like if Arsenal, Liverpool or City bought him, I get the feeling that he'd be flying right now in their styles. Mourinho has a more controlled and conservative approach so he wants his wide players to always be focused defensively and all that. Both Di Maria and willian as Mourinho says struggled in the first half season under him, so I wouldnt say its just a player issue.
That would make sense if he was renowned for his work rate and defensive efforts
 
I see Jose has been reading the Caf and decided to run with my insightful - and some might say borderline stunning - comparison between Mkhitaryan's early days and Willian at Chelsea. Either that or we're both massive bullshitters.


Given he is stuck in his hotel every night without family and friends to entertain him, he probably does read the cafe!
 
That would make sense if he was renowned for his work rate and defensive efforts
Willian is a work horse and Mkhitaryan for dortmund was the same. Mourinho has his methods and what hes doing with Mkhitaryan he basically did at multiple other clubs with players who took a few months to break in and then produced great performances. Other managers would throw them in right away and probably do well from the off too, but I dont think there is more to it then that or its a case of going after the wrong player.
 
Reassured after Mou's comments, especially the Willian and Di Maria comparisons.
 
That would make sense if he was renowned for his work rate and defensive efforts
He won the most balls in the middle third of the pitch in the bundesliga last year. If that's not a workhorse I don't know who is. Ask any dortmund fan and they'll probably mention his work rate as one of his greatest attributes.
 
I think its more a case of Mourinho needing them to adapt to his style... Like if Arsenal, Liverpool or City bought him, I get the feeling that he'd be flying right now in their styles. Mourinho has a more controlled and conservative approach so he wants his wide players to always be focused defensively and all that. Both Di Maria and willian as Mourinho says struggled in the first half season under him, so I wouldnt say its just a player issue.

So, basically he wants exactly the same as what both Klopp and Tuchel want from wide players? This adaption issue would be understandable if he would not have come from systems where exactly that was required, but due to the extremely high positioning of the FBs in any system Dortmund used for years, the wide players were always required to carry a lot of defensive work load and running work. That is why players like Perisic did not make it for us or why Tuchel wanted Schürrle (who fits this criteria extremely well) as Mkhitaryan´s successor.

It strikes me as very odd, that the areas Mkhitaryan appearantly has to catch up on are intensity and off the ball work/movement of all things. He was in that regard one of the best players to ever play for us and is your best player by a country mile.

If you would have asked me before this season what kind of problems Mkhitaryan could have run into, this would have been the very last thing on my list.
 
So, basically he wants exactly the same as what both Klopp and Tuchel want from wide players? This adaption issue would be understandable if he would not have come from systems where exactly that was required, but due to the extremely high positioning of the FBs in any system Dortmund used for years, the wide players were always required to carry a lot of defensive work load and running work. That is why players like Perisic did not make it for us or why Tuchel wanted Schürrle (who fits this criteria extremely well) as Mkhitaryan´s successor.

It strikes me as very odd, that the areas Mkhitaryan appearantly has to catch up on are intensity and off the ball work/movement of all things. He was in that regard one of the best players to ever play for us and is your best player by a country mile.

If you would have asked me before this season what kind of problems Mkhitaryan could have run into, this would have been the very last thing on my list.
I know what you mean, but I guess Mourinho has his reasons. Its not like Willian was poor defensively when he went to Chelsea or didnt work hard, but he still took a while to get into Mourinhos side. For whatever reason, Mourinho doesnt throw his attacking signings in from the off unless they are bigger physically. Maybe in training they dont work hard enough or whatever, but I dont buy that because like I said, others were known for being hard working and the same applied to them.
 
He won the most balls in the middle third of the pitch in the bundesliga last year. If that's not a workhorse I don't know who is. Ask any dortmund fan and they'll probably mention his work rate as one of his greatest attributes.

I meant to write wasn't instead of was :wenger:
 
Don't think he'll be involved tomorrow if Mourinho is saying he still needs time.
 
Why would a Bayern fan be bitter over Mkhitaryan? Is the league so boring that you are sad when rival players leave?

Well i am a Bundesliga fan in the first place and i don't like seeing most of our stars leaving (mostly to the BPL because the money is calling). There have been quite a few recently such as De Buyne, Sane, Miki, etc.

But as i said it was obvious that he would fail you guys. He takes long too adapt and needs to be in a comfort zone to do well.


Nice try to distract from the actual point by just coming up with old stuff
 
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So Mourinho wants him to feel the intensity of the premier league without letting him feel the intensity of the premier league. Makes sense now
 
Very discouraging interview by Mourinho. Sounds to me like he's just buying more time for himself with the internet and fans in general going crazy about the absence of Mkhi.

Did they bring him over just to train? Once again, shameful treatment of a player and my opinion won't change unless he's given a chance to prove himself.
 
Well i am a Bundesliga fan in the first place and i don't like seeing most of our stars leaving (mostly to the BPL because the money is calling). There have been quite a few recently such as De Buyne, Sane, Miki, etc.

But as i said it was obvious that he would fail you guys. He takes long too adapt and needs to be in a comfort zone to do well.


Nice try to distract from the actual point by just coming up with old stuff
Do you have anything else to contribute other than prematurely saying Mkhi's already failed here and that the only reason as to why footballers join the PL is because of money even though that's one of the biggest factors in any players decision to play for any team in any league?
 
Very discouraging interview by Mourinho. Sounds to me like he's just buying more time for himself with the internet and fans in general going crazy about the absence of Mkhi.

Did they bring him over just to train? Once again, shameful treatment of a player and my opinion won't change unless he's given a chance to prove himself.
You serious? I can tell by your username that you're a massive Mkhi fan, but surely you can see that's ridiculous? Mourinho had set out 4 primary targets in the window and Mkhi was one of them from the start. Adapting to the league was going to take some time, and this process was only lengthened due to his injury.

Before his injury, Mourinho had slowly gotten Mkhi used to the Prem with sub appearances and he had looked better and better in each appearance, so much so that Mourinho trusted him to start in one of the biggest games of our season. Since then, he's been injured and training to return to full fitness, so really, I fail to see how Mourinho's treatment of Mkhi has been 'shameful'.
 
Very weird. He is with the squad on the bus and at the hotel but can't even get a place on the bench.
 
If you're training 4 weeks with the squad then you're fully fit. Players are usually fully fit as soon as they have started training with the squad.
 
Laughable. No matter what he says to the press, Mourinho has clearly seen something he doesn't like. Rooney is coming back from injury and gets a place on the bench...
 
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