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Attila said:
Sorry what did he say about HM after City? I think I did miss it
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He openly questioned his mentality implying he wasn't up to the task of coping with a game of that scale and importance.
The argument regarding match fitness is odd for someone who's been in training with the squad for weeks. I think Mou's second sentence "Can't play them all" holds more weight. Lingard and Depay are in the squad tonight, HM isn't.
Not that far fetched to draw conclusions regarding the current pecking order in my book.
 
Nothing to worry about, he will have his chances now that he has recovered from injury and will be having full training sessions with the squad.
 
2ndTouch said:
He openly questioned his mentality implying he wasn't up to the task of coping with a game of that scale and importance.
The argument regarding match fitness is odd for someone who's been in training with the squad for weeks. I think Mou's second sentence "Can't play them all" holds more weight. Lingard and Depay are in the squad tonight, HM isn't.
Not that far fetched to draw conclusions regarding the current pecking order in my book.
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I thought he was on about Lingard considering Mkhitaryan had to go off injured
 
Attila said:
Very strange Mourinho started him vs City considering he was only bought to appease Raiola
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The agent has a huge say on where his players go. Also you're misunderstanding me, I wasn't saying that Mkhitaryan has been solely brought for appease Raiola, obviously there was a potential benefit for us too as he is potentially a great player for the club just saying it didn't hurt us politically to have brought a player from that same stable.

If Raiola wasn't his agent, I don't think Mkhi would have been number one signing on Mourinho's list put it that way.
 
Raees said:
The agent has a huge say on where his players go. Also you're misunderstanding me, I wasn't saying that Mkhitaryan has been solely brought for appease Raiola, obviously there was a potential benefit for us too as he is potentially a great player for the club just saying it didn't hurt us politically to have brought a player from that same stable.

If Raiola wasn't his agent, I don't think Mkhi would have been number one signing on Mourinho's list put it that way.
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I really don't agree. I think we would have got Ibra and Pogba anyway considering the huge amount of money involved. I think Mkhitaryan would have been a Mourinho pick. I remember there being picks of him and Rui Faria at Dortmund matches and I assume they were watching him.
 
2ndTouch said:
He openly questioned his mentality implying he wasn't up to the task of coping with a game of that scale and importance.
The argument regarding match fitness is odd for someone who's been in training with the squad for weeks. I think Mou's second sentence "Can't play them all" holds more weight. Lingard and Depay are in the squad tonight, HM isn't.
Not that far fetched to draw conclusions regarding the current pecking order in my book.
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Yeah it's far fetched.
He's not crazy to just give up on a player he wanted to sign.
 
Would've liked to have seen him, but Lingard needed the run and was excellent, and Martial needed a good outing too and has hopefully come out of it with a boost.

Probably best to give him a proper start too rather than bringing him on. Good move from Jose I reckon.
 
I worry that Jose has written him off. I know that is almost impossible, but this is Jose and if Mkhi has done something wrong, Jose can hold a grudge.
 
Witchking said:
I worry that Jose has written him off. I know that is almost impossible, but this is Jose and if Mkhi has done something wrong, Jose can hold a grudge.
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You have no idea, he's also injured and perhaps shaw and martial recovered quicker. You don't write someone off after they have just arrived, have several decent games as he is bedded into the squad, then gets injured, plays one bad game because of said injury, and doesn't play because it was clearly aggravated. Mourinho is not stupid. You are being paranoid. What does he hold a grudge for? One bad performance he clearly trusted him to play in despite the injury?
 
I know it is annoying that Mkhi was not in the squad, but I can't believe the meltdown here.
He was being bedded into the squad made some decent from the bench. Then even though he had just recovered from an injury he was started against City, where he was woeful. Then he got benched and got injured again. Now he is being brought back, slowly and carefully. Last night's match was the perfect opportunity, but maybe Mou was not convinced by his fitness. I don't expect to see him in the Chelsea game though. Could come back against City again :-p
 
I'm really worried that he didn't played a single minute. Jose said that it was better to train than having 15 mins for nothing.

But he has to play, he 1000 times better than Lingard so I don't really understand that.

Hope he'll be benched at Chelsea and City and plays against Burnley and then Fener again, but we really need someone on this right wing, and especially another technical player who can dribble and pass the ball.
 
I can see some parallel between Jose's treatment of mkhi and of willian. Willian was eased in, hardly playing for the first few weeks after his 30m transfer before later becoming a regular starter. Add to that this injury and this explains what's happened.
 
2ndTouch said:
He openly questioned his mentality implying he wasn't up to the task of coping with a game of that scale and importance.
The argument regarding match fitness is odd for someone who's been in training with the squad for weeks. I think Mou's second sentence "Can't play them all" holds more weight. Lingard and Depay are in the squad tonight, HM isn't.
Not that far fetched to draw conclusions regarding the current pecking order in my book.
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I really cannot believe that Lingard and Memphis are ahead of him in the pecking order. That would be really annoying.

In my books Mkhi is one of the best attacking Players worldwide. His signature made me at least as happy as Pogba`s.
 
Ok!! C’mon people. Jose already risked Mkhi once before he was ready for that City game and he lost him for a few games. Now, he is making sure not to repeat the same mistake. He will ease him in. You guys seriously! we just started the seaso
 
Cnaiür urs Skiötha said:
I really cannot believe that Lingard and Memphis are ahead of him in the pecking order. That would be really annoying.

In my books Mkhi is one of the best attacking Players worldwide. His signature made me at least as happy as Pogba`s.
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Why? Because he's from Warrington. You'd be pulling your self off over him if we spent £30m on him from abroad and he was called Jessie Lingardinho. In his last 7 or 8 games he's scored a screamer to win the FA cup, beat 5 players to score a great goal against Leicester. Had a stinker when rushed back against City (when Mhiki was even worse) and then during the city and stoke matches created a hell of a lot of chances then added a goal and an assist last night.

In what parallel universe does Mhikitaryan warrant a start over Lingard, other than he's a foreign £30m signing.
 
If I'm not mistaken did Jose say its better for Mkhitaryan's fitness to perform full intense training like he did on Wednesday rather than match day training + then 15 mins game time?

If so it makes a fair bit of sense, and another example of how shite commentators are with the simple logic of "you can't be match fit without at least being on the bench".

I think he'll be on the bench on Sunday after he's done a couple more training sessions with the first team.
 
I'm hoping that the rationale is this:-

Miki needs to be 101% fit to have any chance of getting over his "nerves" of playing for a new club. Anything less and there's even less of a chance that he will settle.

Either way the deal is beginning to look like Cuadrado (sp? ), considering we have zero penatration (last night aside ) I'm very disappointed. Bought a player at his peak, still not working out. We.are.jinxed.
 
i also hope to see more of him soon but why should he traight walk into the side? he has to fight for his place like everyone else does. lingard is in good form why should he deserve to be droped?

hope he gets at least 30minutes against chelsea. i wouldn't start him in such a big game after such a long injury. we did saw what happened against city
 
jojose said:
Why? Because he's from Warrington. You'd be pulling your self off over him if we spent £30m on him from abroad and he was called Jessie Lingardinho. In his last 7 or 8 games he's scored a screamer to win the FA cup, beat 5 players to score a great goal against Leicester. Had a stinker when rushed back against City (when Mhiki was even worse) and then during the city and stoke matches created a hell of a lot of chances then added a goal and an assist last night.

In what parallel universe does Mhikitaryan warrant a start over Lingard, other than he's a foreign £30m signing.
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Absolutely not. I would love to field a Team comprised only of our Youngsters - if they have to Quality to win us the league and the CL.

However, in the season 2015/2016 Mkhitaryan has been one of the best attacking Players worldwide. I have watched quite a lot of Dortmund games and this is my Impression.

Lingard Shows glimpses of Quality just to completely disappear in the next game.

Really no fair comparison here.
 
redNATION said:
Which would be infuriating to say the least. We're spending fortunes to get back to the top, but our failure rate on transfers is staggering - Fellaini, Mata, BSF, ADM, Scnhederlin, Darmian, Memphis, Rojo - we cant just be throwing this kind of money down the drain. What's worse is that we sell terribly, so the unthinkable should happen, and we need to sell him, another team will pick him up at a bargain price.
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Mata, a failure??? What are you on?
 
Hope he is not the new Cuadrado. We need him and Martial firing to make the best out of this season.
 
Jose said that he need Mkhi to be fully fit and he will be ready soon. So that's good news. Hoping to see him play with Martial on the other wing and Rashford as the center forward. The front 3 will be amazingly pacey. Then the skillfull Mata at number 10, with Pogba and Herrera in the midfield.
 
Cnaiür urs Skiötha said:
Absolutely not. I would love to field a Team comprised only of our Youngsters - if they have to Quality to win us the league and the CL.

However, in the season 2015/2016 Mkhitaryan has been one of the best attacking Players worldwide. I have watched quite a lot of Dortmund games and this is my Impression.

Lingard Shows glimpses of Quality just to completely disappear in the next game.

Really no fair comparison here.
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But what about his silent domination :mad:
 
Cnaiür urs Skiötha said:
Absolutely not. I would love to field a Team comprised only of our Youngsters - if they have to Quality to win us the league and the CL.

However, in the season 2015/2016 Mkhitaryan has been one of the best attacking Players worldwide. I have watched quite a lot of Dortmund games and this is my Impression.

Lingard Shows glimpses of Quality just to completely disappear in the next game.

Really no fair comparison here.
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I thought you might have seen lots of Dortmund games. Of course you have.

Your right, there is no comparison, Lingard is not only playing, but he's creating and scoring. Mhikitaryan has spent 3 months with a sore thigh and an arm injury. But we are supposed to give him more time because he's an introvert and takes time to settle.

How about we only start paying him when he's settled then?
 
I believe Jose will start him against city and give him a chance to make mends with his horrendous performance in the derby.

i still believe he offers a different dimension to the team. When fit and playing as we know he can we will rip a few teams for sure.
 
It's going to be hard for him to break into the team with us in such good form. Might be worth sending him on loan in January.
 
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Witchking said:
Jose said that he need Mkhi to be fully fit and he will be ready soon. So that's good news. Hoping to see him play with Martial on the other wing and Rashford as the center forward. The front 3 will be amazingly pacey. Then the skillfull Mata at number 10, with Pogba and Herrera in the midfield.
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If Mkhitaryan gets in form and the rest of Martial, Mata, Zlatan, and Rashford in are in form, we'll be able to rotate too keep everyone happy and firing. That's a dynamic front 4.
 
rocks13 said:
It's going to be hard for him to break into the team with us in such good form. Might be worth sending him on loan in January.
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Try camouflaging your wumming a bit better. It is getting real tiresome real fast.
 
Some newspapers, The Times and the Indy, saying Mkhi is 'angry and confused' about not playing. No quotes from him, obviously. Just the usual about "telling close friends" and whatnot.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Some newspapers, The Times and the Indy, saying Mkhi is 'angry and confused' about not playing. No quotes from him, obviously. Just the usual about "telling close friends" and whatnot.
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If he's confused about not playing as he's injured, then must be a bit dim. Or just maybe it's media bollocks!
 
He looked happy enough watching the game on Thursday.
 
Mkhitaryan's obviously being sacrificed during this rough series of games, and he won't probably get a chance to show his worth before the Burnley (h) and Fenerbahçe (a) games. I have the feeling Mourinho didn't enjoy something in his attitude after picking up a serious injury during international duty, and the fact that he wasn't even called by Armenia to their last games, despite being fit, says tons.
 
Android1974 said:
Mkhitaryan's obviously being sacrificed during this rough series of games, and he won't probably get a chance to show his worth before the Burnley (h) and Fenerbahçe (a) games. I have the feeling Mourinho didn't enjoy something in his attitude after picking up a serious injury during international duty, and the fact that he wasn't even called by Armenia to their last games, despite being fit, says tons.
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Didn't United request that he wasn't called up?
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Didn't United request that he wasn't called up?
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Probably, but would Man Utd even dare to do it to a player like Pogba, for instance?

My point is that Mourinho is playing hard ball with Mkhitaryan due to the way the injured was picked/treated and his following behavior, namely the very poor exhibition against City. Now the player has to proven himself, even at the cost of not being called internationally and still be outside the 18 players picked for games.
 
He's been injured a bit and was shit against City. Those are perfectly valid reasons for him not to take part in a tough away game. There's no need to invent random conspiracy theories just yet.
 
Tarrou said:
He's been injured a bit and was shit against City. Those are perfectly valid reasons for him not to take part in a tough away game. There's no need to invent random conspiracy theories just yet.
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Random conspiracy? Yeah, maybe just poor memory... Mkhitaryan after he recovered from the injury he picked internationally was then subbed at half-time in the game against City. After that he lost 7 games 7!, where he wasn't even on the bench! Does that seem normal?
 
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