Not worth 20m. I haven't been particularly impressed when I've watched him to be honest.
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this potential signing has got me worried about our ambition...
£20m !? Your having a laugh. Must be bollocks.
maybe it's 2.0m which would be about right
I'd maybe swap him for Gibson :P
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I think Brucie doth protest too much.
I think Brucie doth protest too much.
Good player as is Rodwell but I'd rather we gave the likes Gibson, Pogba, Cleverly, Morrison, James, Drinkwater and Tunnicliffe chances to prove themselves before we go signing other young unproven players. I am certain at least 2 of them will make it here but they need to be given chances to play, this season is probably too soon(apart from Gibson obviously) given our fixtures coming up but at least a few of them are in and around the squad and can see what it's all about.
Don't want.
Neither him nor Rodwell.
Neither him nor Rodwell.
If they take Gibson in exchange and pay us £5m on top, okay i'm dreaming!!
Rodwell has been playing in the Premiership for close to 3 years, those have zero experience. You have to mix up youth.
Who do you want then?
Who are all these young, well-rounded, box to box central midfielders our scouts are apparently unaware of?
Yolkie told us this was happening months ago. Accept it.
Tbh Henderson is someone who will not really make much of a difference to our midfield. I've watched him a lot this season and 1-2 games aside I'm yet to see what's the huge hype about. I'd rather take Charlie Adam on a short term deal rather than Henderson.
I'm really not convinced on Henderson. He has a great engine but doesn't seem to have much quality on the ball. I'd rather we signed Rodwell if it's a toss up between the 2 but i'm not particularly excited about either.
This. It might sound muppetish but honesty Henderson is the most depressing signing we could make. He's just not the type of player we need. Would love someone with far more creativity than Henderson and if possible a goal threat as well.
Not those 2. And if, then Rodwell. Henderson hasnt impressed this season.
I'd be surprised if we were going to sign one of them.
I wouldn't go that far. He's not a boring or negative player. He has the right intentions but I just don't see the quality he would offer. Just seems like another English runner.
Who then?
I think Rodwell just oozes class and Henderson also has something about him. They're also both English, used to playing in the Premier League and will only get better and better in the coming years.
I'd genuinely like to hear about the better options out there. Who are they?
Well in terms of central midfielders we've been linked with, it would be a rather depressing signing for me. A midfield 3 of Fletcher Carrick and Henderson is going to be every bit as bad as the midfield performance last night.
Rodwell seems to be a promising talent. Henderson adds nothing to our present midfield. England do lack of creative central midfielders at the moment.
Am I the only one who actually thinks Henderson could be a quality signing?
Rodwell would be a good signing but Henderson? Honestly he's been huped up so much and because of that I've watched him a lot and there have been very few good performances. He won't have poor games but he doesn't do much either. We've crying out for some creativity from midfield and I don't think Henderson would offer that.
Well for our CM I'd like us to go for Modric. On Rodwell: We will see how he develops. The talent is there but I don't see this oozing class as of yet. Henderson is something different, I haven't even seen much that would in any way justifiy the hype around him.
I'd like us to go for a more profiled midfielder though, who has shown his class over a few years now. We have enough young guns waiting to break through but we could do with some instant success in that area to secure our younger ones to play alongside someone like that. (especially when Scholes and Giggsy retire
)If we can bring up the money though or if teams like Tottenham are willing to sell their potentially best players is something different of course.
But you asked what I would like us to go for.
We have Welbeck and Cleverly to come back and for 20m I doubt it. We have players with potential at the club, their potentials very good, it would be a bad idea to buy another kid who 1) is not worth 5million let alone 20 2) could hinder the chance of somene else coming through and 3) if we lose experience in the midfield, we can't replace it with a 20 year old.
Exactly
I think that too. He looked really promising last season, but his development has sorta stalled this season, I still think he will turn out to be a good player in future, however saying that I would prefer us to sign a established creative midfielder first who can slot straight in our First XI.
Thats a fair point, but some of the "he's not worth £5million" talk in this thread is a bit ott
My Sunderland seaseon ticket holder pal raves about his passing.
Says he's nowhere near the finishaed article mind but has been excellent for them this season and last. He thinks he has the ability to move up a level at least.
Sunderland play some good stuff at times and he's often at the heart of it.
I personally could see Welbeck forming part of any deal for Henderson IF Sir Alex wants him badly.
We're well stocked upfront and Welbeck, if he comes back will have his work cut out to get a first team place ahead of Rooney, Berbatov and Hernandez.
Owen will likely depart and SAF always wants to have 4 strikers, Welbeck won't be going anywhere.
re Henderson, I've not seen an awful lot of him but when I have seen him he's not been all that. If SAF wants him and deems him worthy of £Xm, however, then he clearly sees something and that's good enough for me.
I just hope that if we do sign him he's not the only one, and we also bring in someone more 'established' and experienced in the midfield.
Agreed. Plus Welbeck is versatile(can play on left) and we all know that Sir Alex likes versatile players.
The only reason I don't want Henderson is that we have Cleverly, whether he'll turn into a Left winger option or pull the strings in the middle I think Cleverly can do it better than Henderson thus we wouldn't need him unless we let Cleverly go.
I've watched both of them equaly and for me, Cleverly is much better on the ball, Cleverly is more of a goal threat and Cleverly delivers a better ball in the box.
Can't see why we'd want Henderson over young Tom.
I've watched both of them equaly and for me, Cleverly is much better on the ball, Cleverly is more of a goal threat and Cleverly delivers a better ball in the box.
Can't see why we'd want Henderson over young Tom.
Fair enough, I've certainly not noticed a particularly impressive range of passing from him though.
Haven't seen much to be impressed about with Henderson, but then again nobody would ever have said that Smalling looks like the business this time last year.
If we sign him its because we obviously feel there is potential there than we can get at.
If we sign him its because we obviously feel there is potential there than we can get at.
Was impressed with Henderson at the start of the season but he hasn't really pushed on since.
Rodwell would be a pointless signing as we already have talented young midfielders who arguably have more potential than him. Aswell as the fact it'd be a large price tag and the lad is very injury prone already.
Rodwell would be a pointless signing as we already have talented young midfielders who arguably have more potential than him. Aswell as the fact it'd be a large price tag and the lad is very injury prone already.
Even if Owen goes, as expected I don't see that Welbeck will definately stay.
If Fergie wants Henderson and Sunderland drvie a hard bargain then there's got to be a chance he'll stay. There's been times in the past when Fergie has let players go despite probably wanting to keep them because a good bid has come in.
Welbeck may look at the situation and think he's not happy to go back and sit on the bench. He might even have to contend with Macheda as well.
There's also plenty of rumours going around up here that Sunderland will bid a sizeable amount for him in the summer to replace Bent.
Perhaps one of a few young players struggling with being asked to play too many games. Seems that after losing Lorik Cana Sunderland had few CM options and as a result he seems to have played whever fit.
Always good to be able to give the younger lads a rest now and then.
I wouldn't mind Henderson. He sort of reminds me of a more athletic, versatile and durable British version of Anderson. (I'm not saying he's a better prospect.)
From what I've seen, and I watch Sunderland every chance I get because of the rumors, he has a terrific engine, is a hard worker, has quality on the ball (comparable if not better than Fletcher or Carrick) and doesn't look the finished article.
I don't know how reliable the rumors are with James, Tunnicliffe, Pogba and Petrucci still on the books. Oops...almost forgot Corry Evans.
From what I've seen, and I watch Sunderland every chance I get because of the rumors, he has a terrific engine, is a hard worker, has quality on the ball (comparable if not better than Fletcher or Carrick) and doesn't look the finished article.
I don't know how reliable the rumors are with James, Tunnicliffe, Pogba and Petrucci still on the books. Oops...almost forgot Corry Evans.
It seems like a lot of you focus on that he has no (apparent) big strenghts. Another point of view could be that he has no apparent big weakness. And that might actually be a big strength. Especially for a young player like Henderson. The modern midfielder, is to a big extrent, the jack of all trades. And at twenty year of age he could almost definitely develop into a quality players.
It baffles me that some feel that he would be a depressing signing. Statistics are statistics, but have anyone seen the "attacks created" part at Telegraph? Henderson are number five, with a total of 54 key passes. Some might point out that this sort of stats are pointless at start, and gets even less interesting when players like Chris Brunt, Davies and Downing are number 2,3 and 4. I can relate to that type of arguments. But on the other hand, in the past, Lampard, Giggs, Gerrard, Fabregas has dominated. Fabregas is on top for Arsenal. Nani for Man Utd. That seems correct.
It baffles me that some feel that he would be a depressing signing. Statistics are statistics, but have anyone seen the "attacks created" part at Telegraph? Henderson are number five, with a total of 54 key passes. Some might point out that this sort of stats are pointless at start, and gets even less interesting when players like Chris Brunt, Davies and Downing are number 2,3 and 4. I can relate to that type of arguments. But on the other hand, in the past, Lampard, Giggs, Gerrard, Fabregas has dominated. Fabregas is on top for Arsenal. Nani for Man Utd. That seems correct.
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