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Nervous breakdown . Might be the worst rumour I've heard about us this window
Are they saying Ronaldo is a transfer muppet?
Nervous breakdown . Might be the worst rumour I've heard about us this window
Have you read some of the “rational” guff posted?For how much you harp on about negativity at least its somewhat rational given the history of the club and the current circumstances, this toxic positivity on the other hand is entirely contrary to what is actually happening what is it based on? Honestly now doesn't it show you how ridiculous this situation is that you were retorting with the same question 3 weeks ago and nothing has happened since?
Like no shit people have been excited since ETH was appointed, that's precisely why there is frustration we want to see this football too and if you think he is going to be playing like Ajax with 1 or 2 players on top of this squad then you will be as disappointed as the rest of us.
ETH is not a miracle worker just ask any Ajax fan it took time for him to get going and lets not forget he is new to the league as well. All while we literally have no midfield or fullbacks that are good with the ball, there is one striker who may yet leave, and our supposed "best players" have already shown how little they care.
I don’t think it’s far off agreement at this stageWell we just need to pay it now IMO. Bloody pre season starts next week.
We all know your point. You've made it 700 times already. Most of us are simply not persuaded by it or are at least skeptical. Basically, everything you spelled out in the first part of your post is unproven at United. Hence the ongoing skepticism.My whole point is that you all keep going by the last 10 years, yet it’s a brand new CEO who had immediately deferred to football opinions, 2 new DoF, a highly rated young attacking coach, a new coaching team with great experience.
- some want now types are complaining because we haven’t made any signings yet
- Another bunch are complaining that we’re offering too much
- Others are complaining because murtough and Arnold once shared the same air as woody and the glazers so it’s not changed
- Another bunch complaining because we aren’t keeping up with Liverpool, city
- Another group complaining that no sales made yet
- Another group complaining just because everyone else is and they can’t think for themselves
so pardon me for trying to get people to act less knee jerk and see what the outcome of this window is because I bet there are going to ce some people typing “I was a moaner but they really pulled it out of the bag!” Etc towards the end of the window
Can we cope without a proper DM again then there is still worries at RB as well
Doesn't look terribly different from De Jong and Lasse Schone.Think ETH might be crazy enough to play Eriksen alongside De Jong.
lots of caftards poo pooed me saying there was a chance ETH wouldnt be here after our tough run of games in Oct. Now theres a chance he might not be here before Oct. He doesnt seem like the kind of guy to take any crap, and if (yes its a big IF, weve still got loads of the window left etc etc) he's been sold a dud when it comes to our transfer plans, then i wouldnt be suprised if he walks. And if that leads to pressure on the glazers to finally sell up, then it will be all for good in the end.
Yes this is a desperately pessimistic take on things, but imagine someone saying that wed finish 6th and in disarray after finishing 2nd last season and adding who we did.
Off course not, but if you expect FDJ to sign within that timeline you’re barking mad. He’s a player that thought he wasn’t going to be moving from Barca. ETH has had to have meetings with him. Presumably Barca also met to say that they were selling him. We’d then have to thrash out personal terms with his agent. All whilst he’s trying to play football for his national team. Only then do we start bidding and a game of poker.
That was in response to people who said that they have nothing to be excited about. One guy said he wasn’t renewing his ticket because there was no excitement. How can there not be excitement about this new coach?We all know your point. You've made it 700 times already. Most of us are simply not persuaded by it or are at least skeptical. Basically, everything you spelled out in the first part of your post is unproven at United. Hence the ongoing skepticism.
I'm not going to argue with you, but this is a thread about transfers, and you keep asking people if they are excited about the manager, which is just strange. We have another thread to talk about the manager.
I get frustration. Keep in mind ETH himself called for no leaks about transfers so this may be the result, we don’t hear until they drop.Make sense. I'm just getting frustrated with none transfer activity so far. It seems like there's no sense of urgency from the Club, or recognizing that the Club has long-term severe disease that need major surgery.
Now we have one of the most progressive manager you can get, and don't we all super excited about this. But you get the feeling of all is just business as usual within the Club.
Doesn't look terribly different from De Jong and Lasse Schone.
How about a third option? Have backup signings identified to improve our bargaining power, and be prepared to walk away if needed. It's Negotiations 101.Half our fans are penny pinching saying that we shouldn’t overpay, then the other half is “just pay it and get on with it”
Without being alarmist, it is quite worrying that following our worst ever premier league season, we have so far been so slow. I think fans are 100% correct to be pessimistic and critical of the club. We seem to be zoned in on a transfer that is likely to run all summer for some reason. While we're doing that, no other signings have happened, and all the teams around us have signed at least one player - apart from Chelsea whose plans are understandably delayed. Arsenal have signed a couple, City and Liverpool have made top-class additions, Spurs are doing well. We have no one yet - and nothing seems imminent. It doesn't look good so far.
Im strapped in for long and possibly disastrous TW. All the players we were linked to after the ETH announcement are not not going to come cheap and it looks highly likely that we dont have the kind of funds that are required to sign quality players in this market. The thing that is making is worse is that players who want to progress and win things are seemingly avoiding us.
We needed a CDM, CM, RW and ST going into this window. Add RB, CB to it if we sell some players in those positions.
I think we had a good list of players which ETH signed off on and now the valuations ( as per twitter ) have us balking. Add the FDJ saga to this and it looks like we cant sign anyone until we know if hes joining us or not. Even if it goes thru, im worried we might not have enough money to get us quality additions to the other positions as I dont expect us to get a lot for any of our dross
in a way i agree. It isn't great timing for a " UTD are chasing ex liverpool transfer guru" Bit like looking for an architect half through a house build. Whether it's through or not any such rumour has been bad timing with the lack of movement. With TEN HAG having been announced early I would have been a little happier if at least one ajax player had been signed as Bayern has 2 and dortmund has another on the way making Ajax's negotiating team hand strong as they have money already in the pipe line.That's not being an alarmist that's the reality. It's a complete joke the club are like this but it's the sane crap every window.
My concern is even if they 'pull it out of the bag', but it's too late those players won't settle in quick enough, we'll start badly, confidence drops and suddenly you have more situations like: 'Sancho flops, 'Bruno not good enough', etc.My whole point is that you all keep going by the last 10 years, yet it’s a brand new CEO who had immediately deferred to football opinions, 2 new DoF, a highly rated young attacking coach, a new coaching team with great experience.
- some want now types are complaining because we haven’t made any signings yet
- Another bunch are complaining that we’re offering too much
- Others are complaining because murtough and Arnold once shared the same air as woody and the glazers so it’s not changed
- Another bunch complaining because we aren’t keeping up with Liverpool, city
- Another group complaining that no sales made yet
- Another group complaining just because everyone else is and they can’t think for themselves
- Another bunch complaining everything glazers.
so pardon me for trying to get people to act less knee jerk and see what the outcome of this window is because I bet there are going to ce some people typing “I was a moaner but they really pulled it out of the bag!” Etc towards the end of the window
McFred start the first game whoever we bring in.
Everyone knows it.
Well, feck all penny-pinchers in the world! You don't invest money, you get nothing.Half our fans are penny pinching saying that we shouldn’t overpay, then the other half is “just pay it and get on with it”
But don’t forget ETH himself has said he wants his squad ready by the time preseasons starts. It’s only less than a week away, and we’ve made zero progress in market as of dated.I get frustration. Keep in mind ETH himself called for no leaks about transfers so this may be the result, we don’t hear until they drop.
give me rumours anyway if it shuts this lot up
Are the Glazers really going to take millions out of the club at the same time as penny pinching on transfers? We should be lynching these feckers.
Depends on the player though doesn’t it?This is how it is for United these days. I suspect that this long negotiation process may be inherent when you're trying to avoid overpaying. I see some fans criticizing united for overpaying whilst others saying "just pay the fecking money and get him in for preseason" - so either way there's criticism. Normally, however, we end up getting most of our targets. And nowadays, that's probably all we can expect. It's a new era and we're having to adapt as a club. So for me, i'll just wait until the transfer window closes before assessing things. But i'm still a muppet
It also depends on getting the business done - and so far it appears we are paying executives for doing bugger allDepends on the player though doesn’t it?
A couple of weeks is not going to make a huge difference. This season is not going to be important in terms of trophy chasing, it’ll be about coming together as a team and making progress on the system and style. So I’m not worried about people joining later in the windowMy concern is even if they 'pull it out of the bag', but it's too late those players won't settle in quick enough, we'll start badly, confidence drops and suddenly you have more situations like: 'Sancho flops, 'Bruno not good enough', etc.
We need to give the squad a chance to settle in and thrive. Not be thrown in the deep end and repeat the same mistakes we've been doing for years.
you really don't think it would be helpful for new players to be in for pre-season, particularly with a new manager and whole new system? it's not like working for one branch of tesco and moving to Sainsbury's down the road. Oh and I'd rather like to be challenging for that fourth spot...A couple of weeks is not going to make a huge difference. This season is not going to be important in terms of trophy chasing, it’ll be about coming together as a team and making progress on the system and style. So I’m not worried about people joining later in the window
greed. Not to quite a few here. But I'm beginning to think they all hve the surname Arnold or Murtough!!The sooner we can get players in the better. This season was always going to be tricky with a new manager and new system, the longer the group has together to gel the better. No point sugar coating it, to me it’s common sense.