Hatton v Mayweather

Mayweather won the match because he showed his class but have you noticed that Hatton didn't even try to box like he normally does, no body shots and so on, I think the normal Hatton wasn't even in the ring yesterday and he was outclassed because he never played his game plan.
 
Boxing, football, cricket. . .not matter what the sport, our sportsmen lack flair and are very one dimensional, except for the occasional anomaly. In boxing Hamed and Amir buck the trend but I wonder how much of that has to do with their backgrounds.
 
If if if. He ran away the whole fight. De Le Hoya in his prime would've outpointed him without doubt and not lost on a dodgy split decision. As for your question. Nothing, and I didn't say or imply anything of the sort. A rematch in Manchester would be great, though.

Sorry but I gotta get back to you on this one.

Firstly what you call running anybody who has boxed will call ringcraft. Knowing when to stick and move, how to slip under a punch and counter and knowing how to nulilfy the attack of a more powerful fighter. Maywhether is the master of all this hence why he beat de la hoya, you can paint it anyway you want but all the experts agreed afterward that he just about won the fight because he controlled the action.

As for a rematch in manchester that would only be fun if you enjoy seeing a one dimensional fight who was way out of he's depth the first time getting humiliated for a second time. If thats your thing fine to each he's own but personally I don't see the point. Hatton needs to concentrate more on fighters at he's level like witter(who'll probably smash him as well).
 
I reckon Ricky could use his uppercut more in the second fight. He'd still lose, but I'd love to watch it live. As for the De la Hoya fight, usually Yank judges look favourable upon fighters whom attack, rather than go backwards. As for your 'ringcraft', it's what Roy Jones jnr does or did. I don't like it. It's safety first, Barmcake.
 
I reckon Ricky could use his uppercut more in the second fight. He'd still lose, but I'd love to watch it live. As for the De la Hoya fight, usually Yank judges look favourable upon fighters whom attack, rather than go backwards. As for your 'ringcraft', it's what Roy Jones jnr does or did. I don't like it. It's safety first, Barmcake.

Take it from somebody who has boxed, without ring craft all you have is two blokes punching the hell out of one another. If thats what you want to see you can see that for free in your local city centre.

If it top quality boxing you want to see then ringcraft is essential, Ali used it throughout he's career against bigger stronger guys so "pretty boy" is not the first, but it is a dying art so he could possibly be one of the last.
 
Take it from somebody who has boxed, without ring craft all you have is two blokes punching the hell out of one another. If thats what you want to see you can see that for free in your local city centre.

If it top quality boxing you want to see then ringcraft is essential, Ali used it throughout he's career against bigger stronger guys so "pretty boy" is not the first, but it is a dying art so he could possibly be one of the last.

I've also boxed, but I wasn't going to mention it. Ali, was a different fighter. There's a difference to what say Roy Jones does to the way Ali or Louis used to fight. And there weren't many bigger than Ali. I can only think of Liston and Foreman. And even if you watch Ali V Foreman, Ali outpointed him throughout the fight, he wasn't negative in anyway, despite being the underdog, despite being past his peak and not having his famous speed and agility.
 
I have to agree with Spoonz, Hetton didn't make use of his normal counter attack and Mayweather controlled that from his defence, that referee really did break the momentum Hatton had.

I am sorry guys but we all seen this fight live and you could see that Hatton gave too much respect to Mayweather in terms of landing any decent shots that he normally can, it is fair to say that Mayweather outclassed him, but Hatton didn't do any damage that he normally imposes on his opponents.
 
Hatton lost fighting. Mayweather is very good and knows how to get the rivals tired.
 
I am obviously disappointed but I have to admit it was a deserved victory to Mayweather, Hatton’s eagerness seem to get the better of him, even before the fight in the promos it appeared Mayweather seemed to get under Hatton’s skin where as Mayweather was brushing everything off, this probably carried through to the fight, and was demonstrated just before the 10th when Hatton had to ask his corner what round it was you could see in his face he was determined to knock him out instead of sticking to his game.
There was very little of his trademark body shots, though this wasn’t helped due to the referee constantly stopping and starting the fight, the same referee who judged Hatton’s last fight against Castillo, where both were able to trade blows in close, its was certainly a fight tailored for Mayweather and he took advantage of it and Hatton’s biggest weakness, no defence!
In terms of stepping up in weight class that can’t really be used as an excuse as Mayweather is a world champion at 5 different weights (didn’t agree with the outcome in the De la Hoya fight though), however Hatton did look very small in compared with Mayweather who is not very big either.

I am not sure where Hatton could go from here as there are no big draw fights at light Welterweight for him to fight to prove him self against which leaves him sticking at welterweight and fighting other contenders where there are much big punchers then Mayweather though not as fast. It will be interesting to see what he decides, though if he wants Mayweather again he will need to prove himself at welterweight and beat one or two other fighters at that class, he has lost his undefeated record now so the fear should not be there, he shouldn’t jump in the deep end again and go for the big fighter, maybe a fight against a top 10 fighter rather then a champion too steady himself again otherwise he will might get himself into a rut.

As for Mayweather I would like him to fight Miguel Cotto or Paul Williams, 2 of the best undefeated welterweights out there, though out of the two I think its Cotto who has it him to knock Mayweather off his throne, if Mayweather wants to prove his greatness he need beat one of these 2. Maybe an elimination between Cotto and Williams should take place with a fight with Mayweather the prize, this way the division could be unified.
 
Disappointing - rubbish weekend

I thought Hatton would have too much desire and grit, unfortunately Mayweather's quality was too much. Hatton would have won if he was Welsh
 
I really wanted Mayweather to win, and I thought he was going to as well. The result didn't come as a surprise as I predicted a 10th round knock-out anyway, that said, my respect for Hatton has gone up. I have to admit I did feel quite sorry for him afterwards as well, but he handled it well. Good luck to him for his future career.
 
Great fight by Mayweather, Hatton could have really given him problems, but the Pretty Boy didn't let it happen. It was a great fight to watch though, apart from the booing of the American national anthem. Sometimes it is about nothing besides quality, Mayweather had far more, and "...Is still the pound for pound best fighter in the World!!!"
 
Not a bad effort from Hatton.Up to the 7th round there was not much in it.Hatton was giving Mayweather problems he had not faced in other matches.But his experience and class came through in the end.Hatton could not pull off his body shots due to Mayweather doing his homework.Hatton should consider dropping down a weight again.But i feel the money his to great at Welterweight.
 
Been watching a few of the rounds again, Hatton played into Mayweather's hands, but I don;t think he could've fought any other way. That's just his style. Flloyd's too fast, too mobile, too accurate and had a huge reach advantage, which explains why Ricky's punch success ratio was so low. He's too old to be taught a new style against fighters that are bigger and more agile, unless Floyd has a really bad day, the outcome will always be the same. That said he could've used his upper cut more. Going forward getting picked off easily must've felt nice.
 
Feel bad for Hatton. Well, not really, considering he made like a zillion quid.

Mayweather was quite gracious in victory I thought, no piss taking or anything.
 
It was a strange one with Mayweather at the end. He came across as quite humble (which he hasn't done at the end of previous fights). It does make you wonder whether his whole detestable personality is just a tried and trusted technique to sell the fight.
 
It was a strange one with Mayweather at the end. He came across as quite humble (which he hasn't done at the end of previous fights). It does make you wonder whether his whole detestable personality is just a tried and trusted technique to sell the fight.

He's a decent bloke by all accounts. Does a lot for charity and what not. I don't mind his cocky attitude as most of it's an act. . .and even if it's not he can back it up.
 
He's a decent bloke by all accounts. Does a lot for charity and what not. I don't mind his cocky attitude as most of it's an act. . .and even if it's not he can back it up.

I've no problem with him claiming to be the best. All fighters do that... they've all got big egos. He just seems to take things a step too far before the fights and causes more bad feeling towards himself than he needs to. As I said though, he could well just be playing the role of the bad guy in all his fights. I don't suppose it matters all that much to him if people like him as long as he's making a shed load of money and providing his family with a solid future. He's undoubtedly one of the best fighters around at this moment in time (and possibly one of the best of all time - if he takes a few other big fights and wins them, few would argue that he is an all time great). I just wish he wouldn't act the way he does before fight time... he may well go down in history as one of the most detested fighters ever (albeit a great one).
 
He's a decent bloke by all accounts. Does a lot for charity and what not. I don't mind his cocky attitude as most of it's an act. . .and even if it's not he can back it up.

Exactly, I can't understand why people take that shit seriously. It's the same every big-ish fight, everyone knows it's showbiz, and then suddenly there's a tipping point and everyone starts saying so-and-so's arrogant, or that X's comment about Y's weak chin clearly had him riled... It's all a fecking act you spackers.

Incidentally what weight did you fight and to what level Spoon to the Z?
 
Exactly, I can't understand why people take that shit seriously. It's the same every big-ish fight, everyone knows it's showbiz, and then suddenly there's a tipping point and everyone starts saying so-and-so's arrogant, or that X's comment about Y's weak chin clearly had him riled... It's all a fecking act you spackers.

Incidentally what weight did you fight and to what level Spoon to the Z?

Nothing serious, Plech, just used to go down the the boxing gym years ago to keep fit. . .and I learned how to spar. My parents would've killed me had I actually gone into boxing. They were the old fashioned academic type, not that it even remotely entered my mind. I also tried a bit of Thai Boxing. . .but I think most have had a go at martial arts and what not in there time.

Have you done a bit of boxing, Plech?
 
He's undoubtedly one of the best fighters around at this moment in time (and possibly one of the best of all time - if he takes a few other big fights and wins them, few would argue that he is an all time great).

completely disagree. If Floyd retires now, he will go down as an all time great. absolutely no question.
 
completely disagree. If Floyd retires now, he will go down as an all time great. absolutely no question.

Completely disagree? You've agreed with me not completely disagreed. I said he's possbily going to go down as an all time great (as things stand now) and a few more wins against big names and there will be no arguments from anyone whatsoever. At this moment in time... there are plenty of people who don't think he's all time great (yet).
 
Completely disagree? You've agreed with me not completely disagreed. I said he's possbily going to go down as an all time great (as things stand now) and a few more wins against big names and there will be no arguments from anyone whatsoever. At this moment in time... there are plenty of people who don't think he's all time great (yet).

Who is there left for Mayweather to fight?

I can only think of Miguel Cotto. If Maywaether fights Cotto and he beats him, will that make him much more of a Legend? Not really because Cotto is hardly considered a great fighter and hes not world famous.

Mayweathers biggest motivation is money. If he fought Cotto, then he wouldn’t receive the same kind of purse as he got for the De la Hoya of the Hatton fights.
 
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We call that the check left hook ;) He never saw it coming...

Hatton started well and I think he had the edge in the first 5 or 6 round but by then Mayweather had him sussed him out and it was only a matter of time. Mayweather is a far superior boxer and class showed in the end. A good boxer will more often than not beat a brawler. Hatton had to drag him into a brawling and dirty fight to stand any chance and Mayweather was far too clever for that.

I like Ricky, shows a lot of heart and desire but he was out of his depth here.
 
Who is there left for Mayweather to fight?

Miguel Cotto, Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, Oscar de la Hoya.

The fights are there it just whether or not he is willing to take them.
Cotto might not be big enough himself to draw the crowds in that’s why I think Williams and Cotto should fight eachother with the winner to get a fight with Mayweather which will unify the division.

Mosley, once considered the best pound for pound in the world was recently beaten by Cotto but is still a big draw.

De la Hoya, there is still some controversy surrounding their fight which could warrant a rematch plus it would also make huge $$$ again.
Personally I am still not overly convinced Mayweather won that fight, De La Hoya had to take the fight to Mayweather otherwise there would have been no fight even though he was the champ, however Mayweather managed to land more punches, BUT then again going back to the Castillo fight, Castillo landed almost twice as much as punches when he and Mayweather first met, so it’s sometimes its hard to understand what the judges are judging.

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We call that the check left hook ;) He never saw it coming...

You beat me to it, I was going to post this. The more I see this the more comical it becomes. Even though I am gutted Hatton lost, seeing him hitting that ring post does make me grin. :lol:
 
Who is there left for Mayweather to fight?

I can only think of Miguel Cotto. If Maywaether fights Cotto and he beats him, will that make him much more of a Legend? Not really because Cotto is hardly considered a great fighter and hes not world famous.

Mayweathers biggest motivation is money. If he fought Cotto, then he wouldn’t receive the same kind of purse as he got for the De la Hoya of the Hatton fights.

Granted Mayweather has already made his way through most of what there is to offer at welterweight. Cotto is another massive fight and there are plenty of people who think he can beat Mayweather so that would definitely increase his status again. I've always thought Cotto would be a much bigger test for him than Hatton - although I would still expect him to win. Paul Williams is on the rise so in time he could be a big fight as long as he continues to impress. It's also not beyond Mayweather to move up to light middle or middle and fight the likes of Pavlik, Taylor or Abraham. There's still plenty he could do to secure an even bigger legacy than that he has built for himself already.
 
Granted Mayweather has already made his way through most of what there is to offer at welterweight. Cotto is another massive fight and there are plenty of people who think he can beat Mayweather so that would definitely increase his status again. I've always thought Cotto would be a much bigger test for him than Hatton - although I would still expect him to win. Paul Williams is on the rise so in time he could be a big fight as long as he continues to impress. It's also not beyond Mayweather to move up to light middle or middle and fight the likes of Pavlik, Taylor or Abraham. There's still plenty he could do to secure an even bigger legacy than that he has built for himself already.

He could, but I doubt he will ... he's mega rich and will probably concentrate on promoting, like he said.
 
Granted Mayweather has already made his way through most of what there is to offer at welterweight. Cotto is another massive fight and there are plenty of people who think he can beat Mayweather so that would definitely increase his status again. I've always thought Cotto would be a much bigger test for him than Hatton - although I would still expect him to win. Paul Williams is on the rise so in time he could be a big fight as long as he continues to impress. It's also not beyond Mayweather to move up to light middle or middle and fight the likes of Pavlik, Taylor or Abraham. There's still plenty he could do to secure an even bigger legacy than that he has built for himself already.

I went to the fight and was on the same flight from Miami to Vegas as Lennox Lewis. Me and a few of the lads got chatting to him and the subject of Cotto came up. Lewis said that, in his opinion, Cotto is the next big thing in boxing and he would be very interested to see him fight Mayweather.

By the way I walked out of that arena with so much respect for both fighters. Hatton for showing a lot of heart and Mayweather for proving that he is the best in the world at present. He was fecking awesome.
 
I don't care for Floyd, but I felt happy Hatton lost after his fans jeered the US anthem and bellowed the "Who are yous" that are so typical of small time fans in the Premiership. Can't believe the Manc was so overhyped by your crappy tabloids. I guess the English are so overrated, it's not even funny anymore. Right, Niko Kranjcar?

On another note, can the Brits feck off from New York sharpish? Bunch of chavs with bad teeth, walking like drunks with ecstasy because of the "amazing bargains", carrying 20 fecking shopping bags (of shit brands may I add), and who no doubt will slag off the Americans as fat, stupid and materialistic.

Go back to your Blighty and don't come back.
 
I don't care for Floyd, but I felt happy Hatton lost after his fans jeered the US anthem and bellowed the "Who are yous" that are so typical of small time fans in the Premiership. Can't believe the Manc was so overhyped by your crappy tabloids. I guess the English are so overrated, it's not even funny anymore. Right, Niko Kranjcar?

On another note, can the Brits feck off from New York sharpish? Bunch of chavs with bad teeth, walking like drunks with ecstasy because of the "amazing bargains", carrying 20 fecking shopping bags (of shit brands may I add), and who no doubt will slag off the Americans as fat, stupid and materialistic.

Go back to your Blighty and don't come back.

You tit.
 
I don't care for Floyd, but I felt happy Hatton lost after his fans jeered the US anthem and bellowed the "Who are yous" that are so typical of small time fans in the Premiership. Can't believe the Manc was so overhyped by your crappy tabloids. I guess the English are so overrated, it's not even funny anymore. Right, Niko Kranjcar?

On another note, can the Brits feck off from New York sharpish? Bunch of chavs with bad teeth, walking like drunks with ecstasy because of the "amazing bargains", carrying 20 fecking shopping bags (of shit brands may I add), and who no doubt will slag off the Americans as fat, stupid and materialistic.

Go back to your Blighty and don't come back.
Since we're getting all patriotic go feck off to some NFL forum, cnut.
 
I didn't think Yanks used the term Chav. To be fair, I don't think people outside of Greater London should use it. They were mostly scallies.
 
On another note, can the Brits feck off from New York sharpish? Bunch of chavs with bad teeth

I always laugh when Americans use this stereotype... If they spent half as much money on their education as they do on trying to get perfect teeth then maybe 90% of them wouldn't be such 'dumb asses'.