Has political correctness actually gone mad?

[Synco]

And why should anyone be criticised for stating an accepted fact then?

I say that as someone who is overweight and trying to shift it.

My main point was just that 'comforting lies for children', as you put it, is not really what happens. Health and fitness are omnipresent in our culture. Everyone is aware of what being overweight is (rightly or wrongly) considered to be until deeply into the subconscious. So repeating what everyone knows in a sloganistic manner is not really a case of informing, and more a case of pressurizing people into doing something. A milder form of the anti-smoking pics with necrotic limbs.

One may say that's good, necessary, appropriate or whatever (I don't, which was probably already discernable), but that's a different discussion altogether.

Doesn't mean I like the now common outrage/shitstorm/cringeworthy apology automatism in any way - and this particular apology is really, really cringeworthy. I just don't like the original ads either, and they represent a much larger and much more relevant part of society.

 

[Maagge]

Spoiler

They should really just come out and post links to the studies they're getting the numbers from.

 

[Silva]

The worst thing about the people who replied to that ad is that they liked Lush's facebook page in the first place.

 

[Mihajlovic]

Toronto gallery cancels show after concerns artist 'bastardizes' Indigenous art.

A painter accused of "cultural genocide", and other strange things happening in Canada at the moment.

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4091529

 

[caid]

Have to say the whole cultural appropriation thing makes zero sense to me.

Is it so terrible to be inspired by another culture?
I guess i can vaguely see how a haloween costume could be a bit offensive, just not enough to warrant anything more than an eye roll.
Guess im not in a position to understand it really

 

[Mihajlovic]

Have to say the whole cultural appropriation thing makes zero sense to me.

Is it so terrible to be inspired by another culture?
I guess i can vaguely see how a haloween costume could be a bit offensive, just not enough to warrant anything more than an eye roll.
Guess im not in a position to understand it really

 

[caid]

Vampire, Werewolf, Billionaire, Surgeon, Pirate

 

[Penna]

Beth Ditto being hailed as a positive role model because she was proud of her body was a watershed moment. You're morbidly obese and putting huge stress on your internal organs but yeah, own that shit.

I didn't know who this woman was, so I had a look at her Wiki page and some pics. I can completely understand anyone of any size being proud of their life achievements, but I don't know how anyone could be proud of their body when (presumably) they have neglected it so much. We only get one, after all.

 

[caid]

I didn't know who this woman was, so I had a look at her Wiki page and some pics. I can completely understand anyone of any size being proud of their life achievements, but I don't know how anyone could be proud of their body when (presumably) they have neglected it so much. We only get one, after all.

Tbf i imagine a lot of borderline anorexic women are pretty proud of their body
Not that i disagree with you ... just being argumentative i guess

 

[Penna]

Tbf i imagine a lot of borderline anorexic women are pretty proud of their body
Not that i disagree with you ... just being argumentative i guess

That's the same thing, really, taking it to extremes the other way. It's not healthy to starve yourself, either. There's too much emphasis on how our outsides look, but that's a genie that can't be put back in the bottle.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

While we're in Canadia.

A Canadian man’s Star Trek-inspired license plate has been revoked after his public insurance company received complaints that it was offensive to indigenous people. The two-year-old plate, which reads “ASIMIL8,” is a sly reference to the Borg, evil aliens in Star Trek who “assimilate” their prey and go by the motto “Resistance is Futile.”

Manitoba local Nick Troller was informed by an agent from Manitoba Public Insurance on Wednesday that they had received complaints from two people about the word “assimilate,” which they claimed is offensive to minorities. He was then served a letter informing him that “it has been brought to the attention of this office that the personalized plate ASIMIL8 is considered offensive,” and was ordered to surrender it immediately.

MPI has given Troller the option to replace the personalized plate with a new one free of charge or refund the $100 he paid for it.

Troller disagrees with the contention that the plate is offensive. “But that’s not the point,” he said. “We’ve become way too sensitive. You can’t say anything anymore to anybody.”

He told CTV News that prior to being notified of the complaints, he was only ever complimented for the interesting license plate by people who took photos of it.

The Borg “assimilating” a victim
The term “assimilate” can refer to the process in which members of a group are absorbed into the culture of another population. In the Star Trek franchise, the malevolent Borg forcibly assimilate sentient lifeforms into their machine “hivemind”.

Speaking to CTV News, a spokesperson for the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation, Ry Moran, said that the word “assimilate” is indeed too offensive to be displayed on the plate, regardless of intent.

“Words like that, meant or not, have an actual impact on many people,” said Moran—as if one man’s Star Trek reference was capable of oppressing millions of Canadians.

In Manitoba, license plates are the property of the government and there is no appeal process for rejected or revoked slogans. MPI policy states that plates are prohibited from containing slogans that could be considered offensive. The Manitoba licensing bureau is treating complaints over the ASIMIL8 plate “very seriously” and will investigate why the plate was ever approved in the first place.

 

[caid]

That's the same thing, really, taking it to extremes the other way. It's not healthy to starve yourself, either. There's too much emphasis on how our outsides look, but that's a genie that can't be put back in the bottle.

I know but I think a lot of people would have little difficulty understanding that kind of pride compared with whateverybob ditto's pride in her body.
She seems to have made a decent career out of it and while that isn't going to mean much when she dies young from a heart attack, I still cant help but think ... fair play (?)

 

[Penna]

I know but I think a lot of people would have little difficulty understanding that kind of pride compared with whateverybob ditto's pride in her body.
She seems to have made a decent career out of it and while that isn't going to mean much when she dies young from a heart attack, I still cant help but think ... fair play (?)

Of course, good luck to her. I'm absolutely in favour of people saying they are happy with their life and don't want to change their appearance, but that's different from being proud about damaging your body.

 

[caid]

Of course, good luck to her. I'm absolutely in favour of people saying they are happy with their life and don't want to change their appearance, but that's different from being proud about damaging your body.

Your making it very hard to disagree with you
Be less rational damn you

 

[Penna]

Your making it very hard to disagree with you
Be less rational damn you

I'm all rationality, as anyone here who's read my ramblings knows.

 

[Synco]

Of course, good luck to her. I'm absolutely in favour of people saying they are happy with their life and don't want to change their appearance, but that's different from being proud about damaging your body.

Are there recent quotes from her that she is just 'proud' without any reserves? From what I remember, she talked quite openly about feeling dissatisfaction with her body, about trying to lose weight and being quite depressed because of her appearance.

I thought her stance was more about trying to preserve some kind of self esteem, self-love, and, yes, pride in spite of all that and the putdowns people like her regularly experience. Came across as a very reflective and honest person in interviews as far as I am concerned.

 

[Red Defence]

While we're in Canadia.

A Canadian man’s Star Trek-inspired license plate has been revoked after his public insurance company received complaints that it was offensive to indigenous people. The two-year-old plate, which reads “ASIMIL8,” is a sly reference to the Borg, evil aliens in Star Trek who “assimilate” their prey and go by the motto “Resistance is Futile.”

Manitoba local Nick Troller was informed by an agent from Manitoba Public Insurance on Wednesday that they had received complaints from two people about the word “assimilate,” which they claimed is offensive to minorities. He was then served a letter informing him that “it has been brought to the attention of this office that the personalized plate ASIMIL8 is considered offensive,” and was ordered to surrender it immediately.

MPI has given Troller the option to replace the personalized plate with a new one free of charge or refund the $100 he paid for it.

Troller disagrees with the contention that the plate is offensive. “But that’s not the point,” he said. “We’ve become way too sensitive. You can’t say anything anymore to anybody.”

He told CTV News that prior to being notified of the complaints, he was only ever complimented for the interesting license plate by people who took photos of it.

The Borg “assimilating” a victim
The term “assimilate” can refer to the process in which members of a group are absorbed into the culture of another population. In the Star Trek franchise, the malevolent Borg forcibly assimilate sentient lifeforms into their machine “hivemind”.

Speaking to CTV News, a spokesperson for the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation, Ry Moran, said that the word “assimilate” is indeed too offensive to be displayed on the plate, regardless of intent.

“Words like that, meant or not, have an actual impact on many people,” said Moran—as if one man’s Star Trek reference was capable of oppressing millions of Canadians.

In Manitoba, license plates are the property of the government and there is no appeal process for rejected or revoked slogans. MPI policy states that plates are prohibited from containing slogans that could be considered offensive. The Manitoba licensing bureau is treating complaints over the ASIMIL8 plate “very seriously” and will investigate why the plate was ever approved in the first place.

Absently mindedly opened this thread and started reading back through the posts. Within seconds I'd forgotten what the thread was about (bit tired and groggy tonight) and then I read this post. Well initially I read it absent mindedly and found I couldn't make any sense of it. Then I remembered the thread title so tried to pay attention and read it again....and again...and again.

Now I'm less groggy and I've read it 4 times and I still cannot for the life of me understand how anyone could possibly find the word on this licence plate offensive, never mind how the Manitoba licensing authority are to investigate why it was ever approved in the first place.

I am open to listening and trying to understand if anyone can explain rationally and sensibly why this word is so offensive.

 

[Penna]

Are there recent quotes from her that she is just 'proud' without any reserves? From what I remember, she talked quite openly about feeling dissatisfaction with her body, about trying to lose weight and being quite depressed because of her appearance.

I thought her stance was more about trying to preserve some kind of self esteem, self-love, and, yes, pride in spite of all that and the putdowns people like her regularly experience. Came across as a very reflective and honest person in interviews as far as I am concerned.

I don't know, I was basing my comment on what Pexbo said. If that's not the case, then she has my sympathy. It's hard for anyone to lose a lot of weight, especially if you're in the public eye.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Doctor Who fans might end up in jail even.

 

[Kentonio]

Toronto gallery cancels show after concerns artist 'bastardizes' Indigenous art.

A painter accused of "cultural genocide", and other strange things happening in Canada at the moment.

http://www.cbc.ca/1.4091529

The guy leading the protests..

His own work flips Indigenous stereotypes on their head in everything from sports teams to film — taking well-known movie posters and recasting them with titles like The Bride of Frankensioux and Tribe of Dracula.

We apparently live in a world now where photoshopping can be considered 'work' if you sell it to the right target audience..

 

[Jippy]

While we're in Canadia.

A Canadian man’s Star Trek-inspired license plate has been revoked after his public insurance company received complaints that it was offensive to indigenous people. The two-year-old plate, which reads “ASIMIL8,” is a sly reference to the Borg, evil aliens in Star Trek who “assimilate” their prey and go by the motto “Resistance is Futile.”

Manitoba local Nick Troller was informed by an agent from Manitoba Public Insurance on Wednesday that they had received complaints from two people about the word “assimilate,” which they claimed is offensive to minorities. He was then served a letter informing him that “it has been brought to the attention of this office that the personalized plate ASIMIL8 is considered offensive,” and was ordered to surrender it immediately.

MPI has given Troller the option to replace the personalized plate with a new one free of charge or refund the $100 he paid for it.

Troller disagrees with the contention that the plate is offensive. “But that’s not the point,” he said. “We’ve become way too sensitive. You can’t say anything anymore to anybody.”

He told CTV News that prior to being notified of the complaints, he was only ever complimented for the interesting license plate by people who took photos of it.

The Borg “assimilating” a victim
The term “assimilate” can refer to the process in which members of a group are absorbed into the culture of another population. In the Star Trek franchise, the malevolent Borg forcibly assimilate sentient lifeforms into their machine “hivemind”.

Speaking to CTV News, a spokesperson for the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation, Ry Moran, said that the word “assimilate” is indeed too offensive to be displayed on the plate, regardless of intent.

“Words like that, meant or not, have an actual impact on many people,” said Moran—as if one man’s Star Trek reference was capable of oppressing millions of Canadians.

In Manitoba, license plates are the property of the government and there is no appeal process for rejected or revoked slogans. MPI policy states that plates are prohibited from containing slogans that could be considered offensive. The Manitoba licensing bureau is treating complaints over the ASIMIL8 plate “very seriously” and will investigate why the plate was ever approved in the first place.

Nick Troller has the perfect name for this thread.

 

[Jippy]

Yale Students Have Symbolic Hunger Strike, Eat When Hungry

That's not how a hunger strike works...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/27/y...-hunger-strike-eat-when-hungry/#ixzz4fjrvTj7h

 

[PedroMendez]

Those brave souls are willing to make huge sacrifices on their strive for justice. I hope the police contemplates to symbolically force-feed them.

 

[Fener1907]

Yale Students Have Symbolic Hunger Strike, Eat When Hungry

That's not how a hunger strike works...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/27/y...-hunger-strike-eat-when-hungry/#ixzz4fjrvTj7h

A graduate student union at Yale University started a symbolic hunger strike outside of the university president’s home Tuesday, stating “when one of us cannot continue, come take our place.”

This is the generation that they'll look back on and pity for how pathetic and meek we were.

 

[Jippy]

This is the generation that they'll look back on and pity for how pathetic and meek we were.

It is a poxy effort with the students swapping over at meal times. I can't believe the uni took it seriously enough to warn them about 'putting their health at risk'.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

To think that Yale is one of the worlds top educational institutions.

 

[dumbo]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ters-of-colour-was-unfair-to-whites-dismissed

In 2009, it emerged that over an 18-month period Davies had sent the then equalities watchdog head Trevor Phillips 19 letters, with questions ranging from whether the Metropolitan Black Police Association discriminated because it limited membership to black people, to whether anti-discrimination laws ought to be extended “to cover bald people (and perhaps fat people and short people)”.

Would be utterly despairing if not so hysterically petty.

What's he even doing wasting time writing letters? Shouldn't he be out there starving poor children and pushing over disabled people like all good Tories?

 

[Jippy]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ters-of-colour-was-unfair-to-whites-dismissed



Would be utterly despairing if not so hysterically petty.

What's he even doing wasting time writing letters? Shouldn't he be out there starving poor children and pushing over disabled people like all good Tories?

Hmm, misguided at best.

 

[Silva]

It is a poxy effort with the students swapping over at meal times. I can't believe the uni took it seriously enough to warn them about 'putting their health at risk'.

They might catch a cold

 

[Pexbo]

Gay jokes in a thread about HIV...

Nice to see the aged stereotypes are still peddled by the ignorant.

And it was more of a mice joke IMO.

 

[Drifter]

The PC police wants Stephen Colbert sacked over his comments about Putin and Trump.

“Sir, you attract more skinheads than free Rogaine,” Colbert said near the end of the insult-laden rant. “You have more people marching against you than cancer. You talk like a sign language gorilla that got hit in the head. In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s c–k holster.” The final remark has drawn the internet’s ire, with viewers taking to social media to declare Colbert is homophobic.The hashtag #FireColbert began spreading around Twitter, along with calls for people to boycott sponsors of the late-night show.

 

[Swaters16]

The PC police wants Stephen Colbert sacked over his comments about Putin and Trump.

“Sir, you attract more skinheads than free Rogaine,” Colbert said near the end of the insult-laden rant. “You have more people marching against you than cancer. You talk like a sign language gorilla that got hit in the head. In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s c–k holster.” The final remark has drawn the internet’s ire, with viewers taking to social media to declare Colbert is homophobic.The hashtag #FireColbert began spreading around Twitter, along with calls for people to boycott sponsors of the late-night show.

In this case, I'd say you don't have to be PC police to think there was a lot wrong with his rant.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

 

[Pogue Mahone]

In this case, I'd say you don't have to be PC police to think there was a lot wrong with his rant.

I honestly can't see anything wrong with it. He's a comedian ffs. He told a smutty joke. That's what comedians do. Calling him homophobic and emanding that he get sacked for it is demented. Typical twitter driven hysterical and over the top political correctness. Exactly why I started this thread.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

I honestly can't see anything wrong with it. He's a comedian ffs. He told a smutty joke. That's what comedians do. Calling him homophobic and emanding that he get sacked for it is demented. Typical twitter driven hysterical and over the top political correctness. Exactly why I started this thread.

In fairness to this one, from what I can see on twitter there is a difference here in that a lot of the people calling for him to be sacked are politically motivated, Trump voters who can't stand Colbert, massively hypocritical. Colbert should just come out and say it was "locker room talk".

 

[Drifter]

In this case, I'd say you don't have to be PC police to think there was a lot wrong with his rant.

Seriously did not find anything wrong in what he said. He was genuinely angry on how Trump treated a CBS reporter that was doing his job.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

In fairness to this one, from what I can see on twitter there is a difference here in that a lot of the people calling for him to be sacked are politically motivated, Trump voters who can't stand Colbert, massively hypocritical. Colbert should just come out and say it was "locker room talk".

Heh. He should do exactly that.

 

[Pexbo]

Isn't this just down to local beliefs rather than political correctness?

 

[nimic]

The PC police wants Stephen Colbert sacked over his comments about Putin and Trump.

“Sir, you attract more skinheads than free Rogaine,” Colbert said near the end of the insult-laden rant. “You have more people marching against you than cancer. You talk like a sign language gorilla that got hit in the head. In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s c–k holster.” The final remark has drawn the internet’s ire, with viewers taking to social media to declare Colbert is homophobic.The hashtag #FireColbert began spreading around Twitter, along with calls for people to boycott sponsors of the late-night show.

From what I've seen, the people who are must upset at this are the types of people who frequent /r/The_Donald over at reddit (and other alt-right creatures). Which is ironic, considering they are guilty of far worse, past present and undoubtedly future. To say that this has anything to do with "PC" is ridiculous. If anything it perfectly highlights why "political correctness" has become, if it wasn't always, a completely meaningless phrase.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

From what I've seen, the people who are must upset at this are the types of people who frequent /r/The_Donald over at reddit (and other alt-right creatures). Which is ironic, considering they are guilty of far worse, past present and undoubtedly future. To say that this has anything to do with "PC" is ridiculous. If anything it perfectly highlights why "political correctness" has become, if it wasn't always, a completely meaningless phrase.

Tbf they're imitating/parodying a real phenomenon. Colbert's just the latest of a long line of people who have experienced a targeted campaign to discredit them after doing nothing worse than make a slightly bad taste joke.