Has political correctness actually gone mad?

Moana was initially hailed for featuring the first-ever Polynesian Disney princess and the first princess without a romantic interest


Why was this a particular reason for praise?

 
Made me chuckle the way blacks, Japanese, Vietnamese and hindus all managed to get offended by the crappy canteen. Speaking of 'cultural (mis)appropriation', one of my local colleagues gets irrationally angry about the fact that the pub near the office serves a naan bread with Thai green curry, as does my wife about the fact that kedgeree, the veggie Indian dish, is served with smoked haddock in it here.
That's a western breakfast dish with Indian origins. It's meant to be served with fish, particularly smoked haddock. One of my favourite dishes and one of my "specialities" too.
 
That's a western breakfast dish with Indian origins. It's meant to be served with fish, particularly smoked haddock. One of my favourite dishes and one of my "specialities" too.
Really? Maybe the Mauritians actually bastardised it by removing the fish then. That'll learn her.
 

Why was this a particular reason for praise?

Because it shows that stories about females can be more than just about their search for romance or that their accomplishments go beyond just finding a good mate, that they have other things to contribute to movies, TV shows then just talking about men. It's the similar to the Bechdel Test for a movie or TV show, do the women characters have conversations that are not about men.
 
Made me chuckle the way blacks, Japanese, Vietnamese and hindus all managed to get offended by the crappy canteen. Speaking of 'cultural (mis)appropriation', one of my local colleagues gets irrationally angry about the fact that the pub near the office serves a naan bread with Thai green curry, as does my wife about the fact that kedgeree, the veggie Indian dish, is served with smoked haddock in it here.
Great. Now I can hold a protest march against the local chippy. I thought it was the bad fish they used but who knew it was the turkish owner thats the problem.
 


I never really took the debate about safe-spaces and this this new sensitivity serious. I thought it was just a fringe phenomenon that is getting blown up by the internet. I am still not convinced that more than a tiny minority would act like this. It is just too weird. Can people who are still studying give me an update on this ? Is this real or a non-issue?
 
I'd absolutely hate to be at university now, especially in America. I know you could say it only seems regular because of social media etc but you see stuff like that more and more now.
 
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I never really took the debate about safe-spaces and this this new sensitivity serious. I thought it was just a fringe phenomenon that is getting blown up by the internet. I am still not convinced that more than a tiny minority would act like this. It is just too weird. Can people who are still studying give me an update on this ? Is this real or a non-issue?


Maybe it's me but to me they are all acting like prima donnas, it was cringeworthy.
 


I never really took the debate about safe-spaces and this this new sensitivity serious. I thought it was just a fringe phenomenon that is getting blown up by the internet. I am still not convinced that more than a tiny minority would act like this. It is just too weird. Can people who are still studying give me an update on this ? Is this real or a non-issue?

No idea what's going on but can someone please nuke that room?
 
I can´t even fully comprehend that there is a meeting where stuff like this is getting discussed. Don´t they have anything else to do? (e.g. posting on a web forum:drool:). The whole thing is just embarrassing for everyone in this room. To me it looks like a amateur version of a telenovela. I´d just like to know if there is anyone with first hand experience of this stuff. I still don´t believe that this is actually happening.
 
Bottom line: none of those headcases belong anywhere near a university.

Honestly if I were forced to share a campus with people like that I would not be able to hold back, I'd microaggress them all into oblivion.

With your views on rape you'd go a bit beyond microagressions.
 
This morning I was talking with another dad at my kids' school about how you can't play conkers anymore, he said it was political correctness gone mad, I pointed out he was getting political correctness confused with health and safety legislation, Stewart Lee would be spinning in his grave - if he was dead, and if there was some kind of afterlife whereby corpses reacted to events in the living world.
 
This morning I was talking with another dad at my kids' school about how you can't play conkers anymore, he said it was political correctness gone mad, I pointed out he was getting political correctness confused with health and safety legislation, Stewart Lee would be spinning in his grave - if he was dead, and if there was some kind of afterlife whereby corpses reacted to events in the living world.
Am sure that first made the news about 10 years or more ago.
 
Some women. And "asking for them" is not quite how I'd put it. I just know that if I were a feminist blogger/comedian/columnist and I wanted more hits on my blog, or more traction on my articles, I'd be very happy if my twitter feed lit up with rape threats, given that playing the victim is the easiest pathway of all to more coverage.
I would suggest this is a rather extreme example of false-consensus effect, on your part. I really don't think many women share your casual attitude to mass online rape threats.
 
Some women. And "asking for them" is not quite how I'd put it. I just know that if I were a feminist blogger/comedian/columnist and I wanted more hits on my blog, or more traction on my articles, I'd be very happy if my twitter feed lit up with rape threats, given that playing the victim is the easiest pathway of all to more coverage.

If your twitter feed is lit up with rape threats you're not playing the victim, you are a victim. It would be scary as feck.
 
I don't understand the concept of rape threats, what is the point?
 
I don't understand the concept of rape threats, what is the point?
I doubt that this is a conscious and rational decision to make them. A lack of impulse-control combined with a lack of moral consciousness (“not a big deal”). Just one example of angry/emotional people going nuts, when they are protected by anonymity.
 
The percentage of rape threats that are actually genuine on Twitter is probably less than 1%, they are really more of a trolling or fear tactic. Mostly the former as more people realise rape threats are only counter-productive and give SJWs and radical-feminists ammo for their propaganda. It only takes one person to rape another so even at less than one percent it is still scary to think there is someone who wants to rape you because they don't like what you are doing or saying.
 
I doubt that this is a conscious and rational decision to make them. A lack of impulse-control combined with a lack of moral consciousness (“not a big deal”). Just one example of angry/emotional people going nuts, when they are protected by anonymity.

Yeah but at what point someone thinks about rape when they are angry/emotional? I find it highly worrying.
 
Yeah but at what point someone thinks about rape when they are angry/emotional? I find it highly worrying.

It's almost a meme at this point. Online rape threats have become the standard angle of attack for a certain type of loser who feels intimidated by women. The ultimate assertion of male over female dominance but arguably completely removed from the act itself.

Like saying "I'll fecking kill you" in an online argument when you would never even punch another human being, never mind contemplate taking their life.
 
With the way in which social media permeates into more traditional social life, anything said online must be taken as a statement of intent, insofar as one would classify such statements as harmful if said in person.
 
It's almost a meme at this point. Online rape threats have become the standard angle of attack for a certain type of loser who feels intimidated by women. The ultimate assertion of male over female dominance but arguably completely removed from the act itself.

Like saying "I'll fecking kill you" in an online argument when you would never even punch another human being, never mind contemplate taking their life.

I see, Twitter is a strange place.
 
Maybe it is. Maybe I'm giving people too much credit.

The impact of online rape threats are hugely overblown by the media, fueled by the testimony of professional victims. If you were to analyse the sort of people who send them you'd find they fall into two categories: intellectual bottom-feeders and kids. The internet is a vacuous wasteland and no one with a brain takes what's tweeted out under the guise of anonymity to heart.

It's really no different to an angry kid in a call of duty lobby threatening to hack you and your family to bits. Perpetrated by the same demographic, worse threats, just no professional victims.


Wtf are you talking about. Sexual violence against women is not some kind of abstract construct, but still very wide-spread in society. The idea that no-one would ever act up these impulses is clearly wrong. So yes, I totally understand that people that get countless rape-threats might feel intimidated. I am sure that they know that the majority is just “trolling”, but it is impossible to distinguish between trolls and potential stalker, creeps or rapists. One person who acts up on these threats is enough to make this scary. The idiots who make these threats, give cover to people who might have real intend. I don´t even know how anyone can defend this shit. How hard can it be not to threaten other people online?
 


Evidently, she doesn't see the gross irony in being so racially aggressive toward her white counterpart there.

With the ice caps melting at an ever fast rate, perhaps we could turn the Arctic into one dedicated safe space for such people. Except for those who get triggered by polar bears that is.
 
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Wtf are you talking about. Sexual violence against women is not some kind of abstract construct, but still very wide-spread in society. The idea that no-one would ever act up these impulses is clearly wrong. So yes, I totally understand that people that get countless rape-threats might feel intimidated. I am sure that they know that the majority is just “trolling”, but it is impossible to distinguish between trolls and potential stalker, creeps or rapists. One person who acts up on these threats is enough to make this scary. The idiots who make these threats, give cover to people who might have real intend. I don´t even know how anyone can defend this shit. How hard can it be not to threaten other people online?

If I'm not mistaken, in the west more than 1 women out of 10 has been victim of sexual assault. It's a real thing and not a subject for jokes and empty threat.
 
With the way in which social media permeates into more traditional social life, anything said online must be taken as a statement of intent, insofar as one would classify such statements as harmful if said in person.

Im not sure id go that far, it isnt a letter through the mail they arent comparable and certainly shouldnt be treated as such.

Serious threats etc should but thats because it crosses a line. It shouls be easier to report such abuse and people should obviously held to account for items such as rape threats. I wouldn't like to be the police who have to go through 1000s of posts by 12 year olds though.
 


I never really took the debate about safe-spaces and this this new sensitivity serious. I thought it was just a fringe phenomenon that is getting blown up by the internet. I am still not convinced that more than a tiny minority would act like this. It is just too weird. Can people who are still studying give me an update on this ? Is this real or a non-issue?


Jesus. They're all so fecking tiresome and immature. Will be fun and games for whichever poor bastard gets to employ them when they're out in the big bad world.
 
Jesus. They're all so fecking tiresome and immature. Will be fun and games for whichever poor bastard gets to employ them when they're out in the big bad world.

Take that back, that's a religion heavy terms. You should respect my atheistic views.
 
I never really took the debate about safe-spaces and this this new sensitivity serious. I thought it was just a fringe phenomenon that is getting blown up by the internet. I am still not convinced that more than a tiny minority would act like this. It is just too weird. Can people who are still studying give me an update on this ? Is this real or a non-issue?

I'd absolutely hate to be at university now, especially in America. I know you could say it only seems regular because of social media etc but you see stuff like that more and more now.


I'min a fairly liberal university in the US. Disclaimer: I'm an antisocial biology PhD student so I might be cut-off from these events (involving undergrads, humanities), but...
I've not seen anything like this. This campus has an official safe space too, but it's for sexual assault victims or to discuss racism or something. You can simply avoid that room (I don't know where it is)
There were on-campus protests and sit-ins last year regarding racism but IMO the issue was legit: some parking attendant stopped a fancy car, the drivver turned out to be some dean/board member/trustee who got out of the car and called her a nigger. She didn't complain till she was fired 2 years later, then she mentioned it in a lawsuit. Someone read this and formed a movement, on and off campus. Sit-ins at some administrative offices and some protests in the day. End result: that dean is still around, she got a big compensation, the university "formed a committee to look into raising the wages of employees" (which was also a demand of the protesters). Protesters were initially threatened with expulsion, then negotiated with, then threatened again.
Again, this is one example but it shows that the power still mostly lies with the administration.
 
Cheers. I didn´t know that the safe space thing is a physical place/room. I thought it was more of an idea. Who cares what some weirdos do in their “closet”? I also wouldn´t mix legit issues (sexual abuse/protests against discrimination) with this new stuff. I guess it is a cultural thing that is specific to the Anglo-American sphere, where university culture is a bit different and it is blown out of proportion by social media. I just never encountered anything like this at all during my time as a student and it is pretty funny/weird to watch these people acting like tits.