Television Harry Potter TV series

I imagine they're hesitant to greenlight brand new material given the slow death of the Fantastic Beasts experiment.
 
This will be shit. Definitely one I’ll be ignoring. J.K can piss off too
 
Salt Bailly said:
I imagine they're hesitant to greenlight brand new material given the slow death of the Fantastic Beasts experiment.
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If it's based on the original novels then it won't be brand new material though?

Don't get me wrong, I reckon it's dubious whether it will be amazing, but Fantastic Beasts had barely any original book material besides mentions of the main character. I think there was a little book made for red nose day years ago but besides that was there ever anything written? Might be a reason why that specific series was naff.
 
JimmyWils said:
If it's based on the original novels then it won't be brand new material though?

Don't get me wrong, I reckon it's dubious whether it will be amazing, but Fantastic Beasts had barely any original book material besides mentions of the main character. I think there was a little book made for red nose day years ago but besides that was there ever anything written? Might be a reason why that specific series was naff.
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Sorry, I was referring to the comments in here about creating a series based on new stories with no fleshed out source material.
 
Pexbo said:
Harry was supposed have self confidence, bordering on the same arrogance his father James had crossed with the approachable, friendly charm of his mother. Radcliffe didn’t convey that at all, he was wooden and his actual acting was often terrible. It’s a shame because he’s developed into a much better actor now but he sticks out like a sore thumb in a film where most of the kids put in some really top class performances. Draco Malfoy in particular steals show in the latter films. Emma Watson is a poor actress but she basically is Hermione.
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I haven’t read the books since I was a child, but I don’t recall Potter being particularly interesting even then. A hero who always does good and comes out on top. It was the wider world that made the books what they were. I think Radcliffe manages the last three films pretty well on the whole, and a complete deviation from that depiction of Potter would feel strange if not a little forced.

It’s a really shite idea. The least they could do is give it a bit of effort and show us something new, like the rise of Voldemort, which could be brilliant done well.
 
They should look at how the Netflix series Wednesday brought a dark, twisted magical school to life. That show was fecking sweet
 
Kag said:
I haven’t read the books since I was a child, but I don’t recall Potter being particularly interesting even then. A hero who always does good and comes out on top. It was the wider world that made the books what they were. I think Radcliffe manages the last three films pretty well on the whole, and a complete deviation from that depiction of Potter would feel strange if not a little forced.

It’s a really shite idea. The least they could do is give it a bit of effort and show us something new, like the rise of Voldemort, which could be brilliant done well.
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I read all the books as a child so for me that is canon rather than the films which it sounds like you’re more familiar with.

At the end of the day it’s literature and it’s perfectly normal for pieces of literature to have many adaptations. People are attached to the films because they grew up with them and they did it so well, especially certain casting decisions.

I don’t get why people are so against having a new adaptation of it.
 
Pexbo said:
I read all the books as a child so for me that is canon rather than the films which it sounds like you’re more familiar with.

At the end of the day it’s literature and it’s perfectly normal for pieces of literature to have many adaptations. People are attached to the films because they grew up with them and they did it so well, especially certain casting decisions.

I don’t get why people are so against having a new adaptation of it.
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I'm not against it, I'm just a bit disappointed because there were other storylines which are more interesting and perhaps even better suited to a TV series adaptation. Re-creating the books will also draw (useless) comparisons to the movies.
 
There was so much potential with HP's parents when they were younger and the evolution of Tom Riddle to Voldemort. Feel like that would have been far more interesting and worth watching.
 
I guess the original Potter fans are now a bit old so this will be great to hook in the next age group of younger kids and teenagers who can follow them through school again.

Feel like what we want to see though is more original material, should get authors to start building out a HP universe like with Star Wars now.
 
Pexbo said:
I read all the books as a child so for me that is canon rather than the films which it sounds like you’re more familiar with.

At the end of the day it’s literature and it’s perfectly normal for pieces of literature to have many adaptations. People are attached to the films because they grew up with them and they did it so well, especially certain casting decisions.

I don’t get why people are so against having a new adaptation of it.
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I’d need to re-read the books to comment fairly. My perception of Potter being a little meh in the books is really only a (very old) memory.

I’d say people are against it because it’s barely a decade on from the release of the last film. Adapt literature all you want, but this doesn’t make it anything other than lazy.
 
Kag said:
I’d need to re-read the books to comment fairly. My perception of Potter being a little meh in the books is really only a (very old) memory.
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You're not wrong. Harry is far from arrogant, if anything he absolutely hated the idea that his father was. It's often cited in the books that he just wants to be a normal kid without all the fame - e.g. he gets angry during the first DA meeting when everyone starts summing up his heroics, which he himself thought more of as "dumb luck" than accomplishments. When Snape argues to Dumbledore that he is James all over again, Dumbledore quickly dismisses that idea and says that Snape only sees what he expects to see.

He is defiant against teachers when he thinks they are wrong (Umbridge/Snape/...) and can't stand injustice, but I can't recall any behavior that would class him as arrogant.

He doesn't have any strong character traits as some others like Hermione, Snape, Malfoy, ... have - which is actually quite surprising as the main character, but I agree with you that nothing really stands out about him.
 
RobinLFC said:
You're not wrong. Harry is far from arrogant, if anything he absolutely hated the idea that his father was. It's often cited in the books that he just wants to be a normal kid without all the fame - e.g. he gets angry during the first DA meeting when everyone starts summing up his heroics, which he himself thought more of as "dumb luck" than accomplishments. When Snape argues to Dumbledore that he is James all over again, Dumbledore quickly dismisses that idea and says that Snape only sees what he expects to see.

He is defiant against teachers when he thinks they are wrong (Umbridge/Snape/...) and can't stand injustice, but I can't recall any behavior that would class him as arrogant.

He doesn't have any strong character traits as some others like Hermione, Snape, Malfoy, ... have - which is actually quite surprising as the main character, but I agree with you that nothing really stands out about him.
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I think that this is because the books are told solely from Harry's POV. It's harder to recognise our own character traits and far easier to see them in others.

I think that Harry was charismatic, intelligent, and articulate. He had to be to teach the DA as effectively as he did, even teaching them to learn a spell that has many adults stumped.

He can also be sullen, and has a tendency to angry outbursts, both of which could be down to his abusive upbringing, or the horcrux in his head.
 
Films messed up Dumbledore and Ron. Hopefully the new series will be faithful to the books.
 
The movies were crap, so it's not like there isn't room to improve. Still, this feels so unnecessary.
 
Bebe said:
The movies were crap, so it's not like there isn't room to improve. Still, this feels so unnecessary.
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It'll make some people a lot of money and that's all the necessary they need really.
 
How much more faithful can you get than the first two films were....
 
Dashing endless resources at a series that already has a still warm, fully canonised casting; a series based on hugely popular books, that have been audiobooked, made into a theme park, made into a video game, that has spawned multiple tumescent spin off films, theatre shows etc. Let's go dig up another bunch of precocious dweeb kids to feed through the studio production line.

You can't possibly have such little imagination to actually, really want this. I hate Harry Potter, it's crap but even if it was the best one, surely there is a limit to this shit, we've reached 100% saturation. This is x-factor reality tv pretending to be a legitimate creative endeavour, just more junk content to distract you from the tedium of your miserable everyday life. A production, speculation, casting, trailer endless cycle of shit. This is cultural soma.
 
sullydnl said:
It'll make some people a lot of money and that's all the necessary they need really.
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True, unfortunately.

dumbo said:
Dashing endless resources at a series that already has a still warm, fully canonised casting; a series based on hugely popular books, that have been audiobooked, made into a theme park, made into a video game, that has spawned multiple tumescent spin off films, theatre shows etc. Let's go dig up another bunch of precocious dweeb kids to feed through the studio production line.

You can't possibly have such little imagination to actually, really want this. I hate Harry Potter, it's crap but even if it was the best one, surely there is a limit to this shit, we've reached 100% saturation. This is x-factor reality tv pretending to be a legitimate creative endeavour, just more junk content to distract you from the tedium of your miserable everyday life. A production, speculation, casting, trailer endless cycle of shit. This is cultural soma.
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I love Harry Potter (well, the books) and it's hard to disagree with any of this.
 
The problem with doing a different timeline (e.g. Voldermort's younger years) is that there's basically no book material to base it on. You know one or two events that are mentioned in passing, but there's no set story. All the best shows have shown that it's the writers that are the true stars, and without great source material or a great writing team you end up with the Ring of Power or Fantastic Beasts, which would be damaging to the HP brand.

House of Dragon worked because GGRM basically went off on a tangent of writing a crap load of Game of Thrones material (probably because the plotlines in thr 6th book turned into a cluster feck). JKR hasn't shown any interest in doing that, and if the effect or her co-writing things is to get the Cursed Child.. well we're all better off. That play was a mess.

I'd be interested in a HP TV series and I'm sure it'd be a success. That the books and movies are still fairly recent is a plus, the interest is there. I probably read each book a good 5-10 times throughout my teen years and it'd be nice to see the magic replicated in a longer form format.
 
I really don't think this is a good idea. I really enjoyed the books, and thought the movies, particularly the earlier ones were rubbish and done very poorly. Looking back, I don't see how dragging us all through the exact same story with a few more details from the books is actually going to make a good series. We have already seen that story, and now with the controversy around Rolling it is just as likely to fall into a shit show, with people highlighting every little plot hole, real/perceived issue that has been debated to death already.

What I would have preferred to see was them taking the school universe, and creating a new story. Be it their kids, or some adult character from the books when they were at school. That way they can still milk the fan bases, but it also shows us something that we haven't seen before.
 
CallyRed said:
There was so much potential with HP's parents when they were younger and the evolution of Tom Riddle to Voldemort. Feel like that would have been far more interesting and worth watching.
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Agree, those would have been much interesting to watch than this.
 
JimmyWils said:
Fantastic idea. Couple of series on Tom Riddle early years and becoming Voldemort would be brilliant.

No need for 10 years worth of series reinventing a much loved series, which is what they're reporting currently.
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It's not reinventing it though. It's making it true to the books, which it wasn't possible to do completely during the films (no excuse for some of the travesties later in the series however) but is now, and as such it right to do it properly this time.

Unam333 said:
That would have been fantastic.

Really hard to replace the movie cast.
It will be getting used to not seeing Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, Alan Rickman and Michael Gambon in their iconic roles.

Hopefully they will stay true to the books.
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Disagree, particularly on Radcliffe and Gambon. Radcliffe was ok overall but never really showed the range the role required as the character grew older and more complication. Gambon will be easily replaced, his Dumbledore was horrendous, particularly compared with Richard Harris who had gone before. It will be good to see versions of those two more aligned with the books. Plus it gives them the opportunity to introduce those who didn't read the books to the proper versions of characters like Ron, Ginny, Kreacher and even Voldemort frankly, and completely introduce characters such as Peeves, Charlie Weasley, Winky who were completely missed from the movies.

In addition to showing some of the storylines missed out by the movies such as SPEW, Voldemorts back story, Neville being the potential Chosen One and him at St Mungo's visiting his cursed parents, Rom/Hermione being prefects, Percy at war with his family, the Deathday party, Harry funding the twins joke shop, the story of Ariana Dumbledore, Harry finding Ravenclaw's diadem in the Room of Requirement (hence he knew where to find it at the end of the series rather than just randomly popping to see her ghost) and Harry not snapping the Elder Wand like a fecking idiot at the end of the film rendering himself wandless. I'm sure there are plenty more but those are the ones that come to mind right now. There is so much potential with this series to finally get it right.
 
In the films they cleverly skipped the slavery plotline. Will they also skip it in a dense TV series? It takes up a pretty big part of the 5th book but it doesn't really move the plot forward so it's easy to leave out.

And let's not get started on the sorting system. Every Slytherin in the book is almost entirely irredeemable and Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw are almost not present at all. The sorting system is probably the biggest part of the fandom, but the fans "forget" how the source material is one big Gryffindor circle-jerk.

They can't win. If they add new characters and storylines the purists will riot. If they don't, the weak source material will reveal itself.

Ah, who am I kidding... This will print money anyways. That is the world we live in now.
 
Scandi Red said:
In the films they cleverly skipped the slavery plotline. Will they also skip it in a dense TV series? It takes up a pretty big part of the 5th book but it doesn't really move the plot forward so it's easy to leave out.

And let's not get started on the sorting system. Every Slytherin in the book is almost entirely irredeemable and Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw are almost not present at all. The sorting system is probably the biggest part of the fandom, but the fans "forget" how the source material is one big Gryffindor circle-jerk.

They can't win. If they add new characters and storylines the purists will riot. If they don't, the weak source material will reveal itself.

Ah, who am I kidding... This will print money anyways. That is the world we live in now.
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Actually this is something Hogwarts Legacy did a good job of, representing all the houses and showing good and bad in each of them. It also does a better job of showing moral ambiguity and not just putting everything in black and white like the books and movies did.
 
You can't help but judge people still into Harry Potter considering all of Rowling's bile.
 
I've always desliked it, even before JKR revealed herself to be a horrible individual.
Just pompous wizardry drivel.
 
horsechoker said:
Your child could be the next Harrold Potter

https://www.theguardian.com/books/a...ll-for-next-generation-harry-potter-tv-series

HBO posts casting call for next-generation Harry Potter TV series
Studio advertises for British and Irish children aged 9-11 to play Hogwarts heroes in ‘decade-long’ TV adaptations
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They should expand the casting call. Get a Harry Potter with a French accent and a Hermione with a Russian one. It should be the international school of Hogwarts - those elitist pricks.
 
I just want the producers to troll Rowling and hire some non-binary and trans actors.
 
Pexbo said:
I just want the producers to troll Rowling and hire some non-binary and trans actors.
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Just go Panto for the whole thing. Invert all genders. 50% of actors were previously the opposite sex, but still play their birth sex.

The ginger cnuts head would pop off.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Just go Panto for the whole thing. Invert all genders. 50% of actors were previously the opposite sex, but still play their birth sex.

The ginger cnuts head would pop off.
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The Weasleys are surely the only ones they can’t touch.

The whole ‘red hair, hand me down robes…’ line and many references in the books suddenly become very racist if they cast a brown lad. Especially with that comment coming from a blonde rich white kid.
 
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