Harry Potter spoiler thread - POST ANYWHERE ELSE AND YOU'LL BE BANNED!!!

bergen said:
Harry Potter is for wannabe nerds. How bad is that? You can't even succeed in being a decent nerd, you have to go for some fake second-string fantasy bullshit.
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Bergen - feck off! In the nicest possible way. :p

Why do people have to involve themselves in topics they aren't interested in, and throw insults just because they don't like something. Is there something wrong with me because if I see a topic about something I don't like, then I don't actually bother to read it.

If you want to point out all that's wrong with Harry Potter and the people who read it, then start a thread for it.. don't just hijack one with your accusations and assumptions. This one was designed for people who have read the book and want to discuss it.
 
Livvie said:
You'd be surprised how many people argued the point. Like this.


Snape used Avada Kedavra. Can there be any more solid evidence for his treachery than this? Avada Kedavra is NOT a mercy killing spell. It is murder, and the mother of all Unforgivables. It's the same curse Voldemort used to kill James and Lily, and with which he tried to kill Harry. We know it requires intense, focused hatred towards another individual. The look of hatred in Snape's eyes was not self hatred. It was not hatred of the situation he had wound up in. He hated Dumbledore, hence Avada Kedavra.

I don't know where this person is now, so that I can gloat.
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The Snape angle was good and probably known to anyone who did a bit of speculation

But the Deathly Hallows bit was just plain wrong. You have things like the Philosopher's Stone, Gryffindor's Sword, The Invisibility Cloak (which she did use) and many more things which I can't be arsed to recall

Could've made the final book a good account based only on the history of powerful wizards who've encountered Voldemort like Dumbledore, his parents and Snape and he in an ideal book about a hero would've found a flaw and a way to defeat him
 
bergen said:
Harry Potter is for wannabe nerds. How bad is that? You can't even succeed in being a decent nerd, you have to go for some fake second-string fantasy bullshit.
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eh?

so what do decent nerds read? watch?
 
Salvation said:
The Snape angle was good and probably known to anyone who did a bit of speculation

But the Deathly Hallows bit was just plain wrong. You have things like the Philosopher's Stone, Gryffindor's Sword, The Invisibility Cloak (which she did use) and many more things which I can't be arsed to recall

Could've made the final book a good account based only on the history of powerful wizards who've encountered Voldemort like Dumbledore, his parents and Snape and he in an ideal book about a hero would've found a flaw and a way to defeat him
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its still a kids/teenagers book....love and acceptance of death/self sacrifice helped him defeat evil....that was Voldemorts flaw and Harrys strength.

old fashioned morality comes into play.
 
sammymc said:
eh?

so what do decent nerds read? watch?
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watch, hmmm, im not so sure.

read. i've seen a couple they could do with. 99 ways to talk to people, how to make friends etc. would do them wonders.

harry potter rocks :D
 
Anyway, I noticed she didn't bother to plug a few of the loopholes in the storyline.I can't be arsed to remember them but when I give it a read again I'll post them.
 
I can. The time turner thing and why can't it be used to reverse everything ever gone wrong. How the feck did Longbottom (:lol:) get that Gryffindor sword in an manner even Hindi movies would find it cringeworthy. The fact that there's a death eater named Thicknesse. If the part of Voldemort's Horcrux was in Potter then why after destroying it and being resurrected did he continue to have that scar. If so much emphasis was on his blood, then just inject bits of those into every person's body
 
and she didn explain anything about that viel that harry passed by in the ministry two books ago.

salvation, ** question regarding neville pulling the sword. if i remember correctly, only a true griffindor can pull out the sword. one of the virtue of being a griffindor is bravery. i guess he'd showed enough bravery by then, standing up to voldemort and all.

the voldermort/harry horcrux thing i could never fully understand ho he dies and comes back etc.
 
oh ya, i forgot bout that goblin. maybe he died and the sword magically disappeared into the hat.

that. or while running away with the sword, the goblin fell across the hat somewhere and being the greedy git he was, put the hat on. what he didn't know was that the hat ate goblins for breakfast and thus was swallowed whole, allowing neville to pull out the sword later on in the book.

haha. my imagination runs wild.
 
Salvation said:
I can. The time turner thing and why can't it be used to reverse everything ever gone wrong. How the feck did Longbottom (:lol:) get that Gryffindor sword in an manner even Hindi movies would find it cringeworthy. The fact that there's a death eater named Thicknesse. If the part of Voldemort's Horcrux was in Potter then why after destroying it and being resurrected did he continue to have that scar. If so much emphasis was on his blood, then just inject bits of those into every person's body
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Scars are permanent
 
not in the wizarding world. scars can be removed. scars as a result from magic cant b removed.

just had to do that. :)
 
The scar makes him Harry Potter! And if body parts cannot be replaced which have been taken off by dark magic e.g George's ear, then the scar can't be removed either i'm assuming
 
Salvation said:
I know, but how the feck did he get it when that Goblin ran away with it?
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I remember reading in book 2 when the phoenix gave Harry the sorting hat in the chamber and there was nothing in it but when he need it to fight the Basilisk the sword just come out of the hat. I can't find book 2 but didn’t Dumbledore say something about a true Gryffindor will be able to pull the sword from the hat at anytime if in danger and Neville is a true Gryffindor. So the goblin was probably running somewhere with the sword and it just vanished from is hand when Neville needed it or someone could have found the goblin and put the sword back it the office.
 
Salvation said:
I can. The time turner thing and why can't it be used to reverse everything ever gone wrong. How the feck did Longbottom (:lol:) get that Gryffindor sword in an manner even Hindi movies would find it cringeworthy. The fact that there's a death eater named Thicknesse. If the part of Voldemort's Horcrux was in Potter then why after destroying it and being resurrected did he continue to have that scar. If so much emphasis was on his blood, then just inject bits of those into every person's body
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I think a Gryffindor showing true courage would be able to pull it out of the hat any time he wants. The manner in which the goblin got his hands on it was also dishonourable. It's a legendary (magic) sword. Something like that, I imagine. I can't imagine Rowling or any of the editors NOT noticing this. It was glaringly obvious.
 
zing said:
I think a Gryffindor showing true courage would be able to pull it out of the hat any time he wants. The manner in which the goblin got his hands on it was also dishonourable. It's a legendary (magic) sword. Something like that, I imagine. I can't imagine Rowling or any of the editors NOT noticing this. It was glaringly obvious.
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As I said, that's fine if in the hands of a wizard but it fell to a goblin who've held the sword longer than Gryffindor
 
I just finished it. Not sure why I felt so compelled to read it immediately - probably so some twat wouldn't ruin the ending.

The books have been entertaining to read, but they aren't great stories and Rowling isn't a great writer IMO. She came across a good idea, and developed it fairly well, but thats about it. I'll give her kudos for the character development.

The thing is, writing a book about a wizard world is just too convenient. "How am I going to get past this plot hole? I know, I'll invent a time-turner, or a luck potion, or a polyjuice potion. Oh, and Hermione can carry a tardis-type bag, small enough to fit in her sock, and carry everything they need".

Also, Harry was just infuriatingly dumb when it was necessary "Oh bugger, I just said Voldemort and now we're captured" etc etc. It just struck me as too easy at times. (Incidentally, why didn't they make a luck potion for when Harry fought Voldemort? He couldn't possibly lose)

She took the easy route with the characters she killed off, and Snape was underused but, apart from that though, she wrapped it up fairly well. (I cant help it, I'm a critic by nature)
 
Bilbo said:
I just finished it. Not sure why I felt so compelled to read it immediately - probably so some twat wouldn't ruin the ending.

The books have been entertaining to read, but they aren't great stories and Rowling isn't a great writer IMO. She came across a good idea, and developed it fairly well, but thats about it. I'll give her kudos for the character development.

The thing is, writing a book about a wizard world is just too convenient. "How am I going to get past this plot hole? I know, I'll invent a time-turner, or a luck potion, or a polyjuice potion. Oh, and Hermione can carry a tardis-type bag, small enough to fit in her sock, and carry everything they need".

Also, Harry was just infuriatingly dumb when it was necessary "Oh bugger, I just said Voldemort and now we're captured" etc etc. It just struck me as too easy at times. (Incidentally, why didn't they make a luck potion for when Harry fought Voldemort? He couldn't possibly lose)

She took the easy route with the characters she killed off, and Snape was underused but, apart from that though, she wrapped it up fairly well. (I cant help it, I'm a critic by nature)
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:lol: Is correct

I remember the whole Leglimency (sp?) thing and that couldn't work in the end where Voldemort can read Potter's mind and know the flaw in his plan?
 
Salvation said:
:lol: Is correct

I remember the whole Leglimency (sp?) thing and that couldn't work in the end where Voldemort can read Potter's mind and know the flaw in his plan?
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Oh yes I remembered one...How did Malfoy's mommy lie about Harry being dead to the supposed greatest Legilimens the world has ever seen.And she didn't explain whether Snape was better than the greates legilimens the world has ever seen(TM) and thats how he managed to keep his true identity secret all this time.And why did Snape just not use Leglimency in the first 4 books...I always thought this Occlumency crap was a load of convenient tosh.
 
Livvie said:
Why do people have to involve themselves in topics they aren't interested in, and throw insults just because they don't like something. Is there something wrong with me because if I see a topic about something I don't like, then I don't actually bother to read it.
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Its like the threads for consoles where someone says what game shall i get for my 360/PS3 and someone says dont bother, sell it and get a PS3/360
 
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