Jonathan Tah. Would cost half as much.We’ve done this to death, instead of making a blanket statement, give some names?
The thing is, no-one ever can, they are either more expensive than Maguire else they’re completely unproven at the level.
Jonathan Tah. Would cost half as much.We’ve done this to death, instead of making a blanket statement, give some names?
The thing is, no-one ever can, they are either more expensive than Maguire else they’re completely unproven at the level.
Jonathan Tah. Would cost half as much.
He’s a chance though, another Bailly, Rojo, Blind, Lindelöf signing.
Looks decent though, not as good a footballer as Maguire mind. Thing is, we’ve fecked up this position so many times since Rio and Vidic left that I’d much prefer we empty the Glazers pockets and bring in Koulibaly or Maguire.
Let's not talk about Maguire as a cert especially when you club him with koulibaly. Tah is very good on the ball if that's what you're refering to and his pace and physicality on a different level to Maguire. I'd much rather have him at the same price levels, let alone at half of it.
So still no names?
The fact that VVD went for 75m means absolutely jack shit, give us names. If anything Maguire is a bigger name now than VVD was then, VVD was a enormous fee for a Southampton centre half. And seriously man, how much would VVD be worth now? £150m maybe? I think more likely £200m.
And remember we live in times in which Felix is joining Ath. Madrid for €120m after a handfull of games.
But who?
VVD certaintly wasn’t the best defender in the world when Liverpool bought him - but they went and bought the best player available and paid a big price for him.
Just because Kepa is the most expensive keeper doesn’t mean he will be the best etc etc.
Supply vs demand - I keep seeing people post that we should be able to buy someone better than Maguire, but no names - often blaming Utd’s ‘scouting dept’, as if there are a load of Vidic’s waiting to be unearthed in random leagues across the world.
Yes, I have. Not like full seasons but that's true for Maguire as well as I don't watch any other team bar United over full seasons. I didn't say he's as good as Maguire on the ball, I was saying he's very good at it so the drop off there isn't crazy and made up by other aspects of his game. Maguire's lack of pace is a big concern for me especially given we have lindelof as his partner and Matic looking to be our starting DM again who's slow as feck. I don't care much about Maguire being Prem proven because Tah has the physical attributes to play here.Have you watched much of Tah Varun? How many games are we talking?
Tah is nowhere near as good on the ball as Maguire. That you’d take him over Maguire for the same money completely baffles me.
We know Maguire is a top Premier League proven defender for a start.
Do you want me to name them all? Is it really necessary? If world record transfer fee can't buy you any defender better than decent one available, so be it.
Look I can name 10 or 20 defenders out there, but can you say for sure they are all absolutely not available or non-attainable at the price of 80m? Fact is, who knows? Unless we did actually bid 80m on all of them and are all officially rejected, there's no way to know.
-Koulibaly
-De Ligt
-Umtiti
-Godin
-Vertonghen
-Alderweireld
-Hummels
-Boateng
-marquinhos
-Skriniar
-Varane
-Manolas
-Sule
-Rudiger
-Laporte
-Romagnoli
Yes, I have. Not like full seasons but that's true for Maguire as well as I don't watch any other team bar United over full seasons. I didn't say he's as good as Maguire on the ball, I was saying he's very good at it so the drop off there isn't crazy and made up by other aspects of his game. Maguire's lack of pace is a big concern for me especially given we have lindelof as his partner and Matic looking to be our starting DM again who's slow as feck. I don't care much about Maguire being Prem proven because Tah has the physical attributes to play here.
That’s the shittest, daftest list I’ve ever seen.
I’m embarrassed for you @RedRonaldo
Now go make a list in the new RW thread and be sure to include Messi, Sterling & Ronaldo.
That’s the shittest, daftest list I’ve ever seen.
I’m embarrassed for you @RedRonaldo
Now go make a list in the new RW thread and be sure to include Messi, Sterling & Ronaldo.
Don’t forget to add in s couple of players who have just been sold, and then some more players from our rivals that clearly we can’t buy!
Well, its up to whether you rate Maguire as the best defender in the world or not. If you do, I am embarrassed for you.
But literally no one does?
Maybe someone does, if they think Maguire worth 80m?
Why do you keep missing the point?
Well, its up to whether you rate Maguire as the best defender in the world or not.
Don’t forget to add in s couple of players who have just been sold, and then some more players from our rivals that clearly we can’t buy!
-Nope-Koulibaly
-De Ligt
-Umtiti
-Godin
-Vertonghen
-Alderweireld
-Hummels
-Boateng
-marquinhos
-Skriniar
-Varane
-Manolas
-Sule
-Rudiger
-Laporte
-Romagnoli
What about his NT career? He's 23 and has some very good players with long NT standings ahead of him for Germany so far. He should be a starter in couple of years time.Tah’s national team career worries me, he’s a risk, simples. Another Bailly, Lindelöf signing.
Could be superb, could be ok, could be excellent but takes 1.5 years to settle.
@RedRonaldo
-Koulibaly - 130m clause
-De Ligt - Unrealistic
-Umtiti - injury prone
-Godin - already signed by inter
-Vertonghen - unrealistic
-Alderweireld - Ole, high wages & the club is trying to avoid Sanchez
-Hummels - prefer Dortmund
-Boateng - come on seriously mate, he’s deadwood
-marquinhos - unrealistic
-Skriniar - if inter wants 55m on Perisic, this guy will be closed to 80m. Almost unrealistic with conte just became their new manager.
-Varane - unrealistic
-Manolas - seriously??
-Sule - unrealistic
-Rudiger - unrealistic
-Laporte - unrealistic
-Romagnoli - you think Milan will even let him go cheap?
Such a lazy list. I would have expect more realistic name and some players who is still in non top club. There is no point trying to sign the players if we know they are unrealistic. Trying to bid on players who are non-attainable will only be wasting time just like Ramos in LVG era.
Only just noticed he had Manolas in there
I don’t. He’s a top defender though and a proper footballer.
What about stones?
How about that
Maguire - Seriously???
Shite list already
He’s a shit defender and as a football, he thinks he’s better than he is which leads to some big mistakes.
He shits all over him and as mentioned that list is a sack of shit.Because its a list to compare with Harry Fecking Maguire, not that toughest list to get your name on it.
Anyone who watches the 2 would come to the conclusion that Maguire is the better defender.So stones is a shit defender and Maguire is a top one? How did you reach that conclusion.
By watching them a suppose and I dont even rate Maguire as top class.So stones is a shit defender and Maguire is a top one? How did you reach that conclusion.
So stones is a shit defender and Maguire is a top one? How did you reach that conclusion.
Disagree totally. If you think just signing new defenders and a winger will make us champions while still playing with the likes of matic and pogba in the midfield who provides no protection then you'll be up for a big surprise.
If you can’t be bothered to give proper solution then don’t start arguing.
He shits all over him and as mentioned that list is a sack of shit.
So 80m for Maguire is the solution?
No wonder we've spent over 600m in past few years and still shite.
Anyone that watches the two would come to the conclusion that neither would be a significant upgrade on what we have . I would rather give Tuanzabe a chance than overpay for MaguireAnyone who watches the 2 would come to the conclusion that Maguire is the better defender.
Decent player, but we'd obviously be pretty mad to spend that kind of money on him.
Or the club could try to be sensible (for once) and not go spunking a truckload more cash on mediocre players.Nar, transfer fees are going bananas, if AWB is a 50m player and Felix is a 120m player then Maguire is a 70m centre back.
VVD is now a 175m centre back.
Get used to it people.