Drawfull
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Guardian still pushing the preferred Citeh line. Wankers.
Come on people, stop the moaning. He's British, knows the PL, experienced enough, regular for his NT, understands what it means to play for United, isn't a fussy pri-madonna. We've got a quality player here and back 4 looking transformed!Ramos, Umtiti, Pique, Koulibaly, van Dijk, Laporte, Godin, Silva, Bonucci, Varane - is he better than any of them?
No different to house prices tbh
VVD was in hindsight though in my opinion, because they also upgraded at keeper. We'll see with Maguire, I'm betting AWB makes him worth it.VVD was not worth 75m either. He was a good but not great player at a time when 50m got you top class. He stepped up massively and with that, 75m became the new norm. If Maguire steps up (I wouldn't want to call it either way) then nobody will blink at 80m in a couple of years.
2009: £80m for Cristiano Ronaldo.
2019: £80m for Harry Maguire.
Pretty crazy
VVD always had the tools to. Unless you can magically give Maguire an injection of pace, he’s going to get caught out time and again this season, just like he does at Leicester.Was VVD top ten in the world when he was signed in your opinion? Or David Luiz? Genuine question
Agree we can forget top 4
Not sure about top 10, but VVD was obviously very highly regarded but had only done it for a small club. Same for Maguire nowWas VVD top ten in the world when he was signed in your opinion? Or David Luiz? Genuine question
Exactly!So we end up paying what they wanted from the start... why waste all these weeks?!
I don’t think he’s worth the money, but that’s the market these days. I think he’ll prove to be a solid buy who will add consistency to our defence. Also a goal threat off corners.
That fee is still unimaginable to any well run team.Think what's fairly remarkable is that the inflation in the market has really only even been over the past few years. As recently as 2015 a fee like £80m for Maguire would've been unimaginable.
That was kind of the point I was making. it's not unusual for teams to pay over the odds even when a player isn't considered to be world class.Not every player becomes like VVD and Luiz never been in TOP 10 and will never be. I too think that £80-85m for Maguire is an out of season April fools joke but we are used to wasting money so who cares.
Feck that. Have you seen what a Freddo costs these days?
And that's without Arab States and Oil companies pumping billions into the Freddo industry
2009: £80m for Cristiano Ronaldo.
2019: £80m for Harry Maguire.
Pretty crazy
I am actually a big fan of his. He may be the weakest link of the back 5 but he's still a brilliant defender and with us attacking in a 4 2 4 shape attacking full backs aren't a huge deal to me. Need defenders that can stop counter attacks when our wide players and pogba are pushing up. That's what we been doing miay6of preseason. I'm very pleasedalmost we need to replace Shaw
Somewhat fair comparison.The Lukaku of CBs.
It’ll be an improvement on what we currently have, but ultimately not where we want to be.
You paid a world record fee for a defender that wouldn't be considered top 10 in the world.
Ramos, Umtiti, Pique, Koulibaly, van Dijk, Laporte, Godin, Silva, Bonucci, Varane - is he better than any of them?
Its importantI have absolutely no clue what a Freddo is
Not a fecking chance.Better than Laporte imo.
Umtiti has broken knees and can barely play.
Probably better than a few of the older ones too simply due to age.
That fee is still unimaginable to any well run team.
VVD was far better than Maguire when he was signed thats for sure. Everything he's showing at liverpool now he did at Southampton and at Celtic. We didn't sign David Luiz for world record money, hell none of Chelsea's centerbacks were ever sign for world record money.Was VVD top ten in the world when he was signed in your opinion? Or David Luiz? Genuine question
I am actually a big fan of his. He may be the weakest link of the back 5 but he's still a brilliant defender and with us attacking in a 4 2 4 shape attacking full backs aren't a huge deal to me. Need defenders that can stop counter attacks when our wide players and pogba are pushing up. That's what we been doing miay6of preseason. I'm very pleased
It’s also a slow CB pairing.
true but what can you expect with a donkey at the centre of your defenceThe feckin season hasn't even started yet