Well with the way Maguire's price seems to keep rising they might well be soon
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If we are paying top dollars for a player, then at least it should be on a world class or potential to be world class player. Not for an overrated lump. Wouldn't even pay 8 m for Maguire; let alone 80. We already have enough quantity in CB departments. We need quality.
Did you have to take a running start to jump that far overboard?
If a club wanted him and he wanted the move I'd be surprised if Napoli would be able to prise much more than £90m for him.
The hope is for 80m plus he is good enough to bring Lindelof up a level and thus save us having to buy another CB. It's whether his skill sets compliments what we have already. I think he's capable of not only playing well himself but having that responsibility on his shoulders. He's experienced and a good age to be able to cope with the level of expectation. De Ligt is quality but him and Lindelof for me wouldn't be as good collectively. We'd need to replace Lindelof as well. De Ligt has great responsibility where he is but this is a different level for a young kid.
We've already signed Lukaku for insane money because there were no one better on the market. Look where it got us. The only difference is, Lukaku has a higher resale value. If you're spending huge money, you have to buy absolutely top talents, not just good players.
Maguire is a player of limited skillset. He's fantastic with the ball and aerially, but his pace and agility are quite bad, he's not great positionally either. Just like with Lukaku's first touch, he's not going to suddenly improve in those areas — it's not like he's a young boy anymore.
Maguire is a player of limited skillset. He's fantastic with the ball and aerially, but his pace and agility are quite bad, he's not great positionally either. Just like with Lukaku's first touch, he's not going to suddenly improve in those areas — it's not like he's a young boy anymore.
Going to be an awful partnership if Lindelof is next to him. Both are painfully slow.
80m, feck sake no thank you. I rate him but not that highly.
That's a lot of money.
Feels like this could be a cover for De Ligt. Make a lot of noise about another player so we are not 'snubbed' if he goes elsewhere. We looked like clowns when we went ball deep into signing Ramos.
This.
If we're going to spend crazy money then it should be on someone who is or has the potential to be great.
For 80m, is there no other, attainable CB around who's cheaper and as good as Maguire? Hard to believe...
He'll probably partner Smalling not Lindelof.
Alderweireld for £25m perhaps? Age isn't on his side but he's still got a good few years in him, hopefully by then there will be more options.
£80m for Maguire 
We are stupid but surely not that stupid?
We are stupid but surely not that stupid?I can understand not wanting Maguire but really?!
His biggest strength is playing out from the back, his other main attribute is his strength in the air. Our two glaring weaknesses at the back.
I'm not sure where your getting that he was exposed by city because I thought he was very good the last time they played? In fact I've seen him has several good games against them.
Get a stop gap player like Alderweireld until we get CL and can attract better players, or sign someone that could actually improve.
Would rather have Ake for the same price as Maguire, but in reality he would cost £50m at most. If we think that the club/OGS could look outside the british isles then there are many options that would peform similar or better than Maguire for half the price... Overpriced.
If we are going to play with a high pressing approach, then we would need a high backline. Having two slow players like Lindelof and Maguire would be problematic against fast technical players with space to use.
On the other hand if we are planning to defend the way Jose intended, then having someone dominant in the air like Maguire would be beneficial.
While I agree on this in principle it is not always true. Barcelona did quite OK over a couple of years with Pique and Mascherano. Laporte, Stones and Otamendi are far from greyhounds either. And I dont know if De Ligt is quicker than Maguire either. De Ligt is not a quick player.
Would rather take Koulibaly or De Ligt but if not I would settle for Maguire.
80mil. cant wait bubble to burst and everything goes to shit, fecking mental.
Barcelona played with extremely high possession and forced teams to sit low and defend against them at that time. Longer distance for a team to surmount a serious number of players in for a counterattack, or it would be 1 or 2 attackers trying on their own.
Additionally, one key element is that Barcelona tried to lose the ball unnecessary or in a dangerous position a maximum of 6 times per game. And when they lost the ball, they tried their hardest to stop a CA, similar to how City are fouling away any chance of a CA. So they have accommodated for their slow central defenders with how they mitigate the possibility or consequence of a potential CA (typical risk management strategies applied in football).
We have a number of players that are prone to lose the ball in less than favourable positions and we are not good at keeping possession. Remember how Klopp struggled in his last year(s) at BVB? They got killed on CA.
It is fully possible to play with a high backline and slow central defenders, but those teams that manage to do this are far from comparable to our team as of now.
And why is it either KK, De Ligt or Maguire? Surely there are better-suited defenders around in Europe than Maguire for a lower fee?
I reckon it'll be nearer £65m then with add-ons, £80m on a decent centre half is bonkers money, I reckon you could get Niklas Suele from Bayern or Rogmanoli from Milan for less who I *think* are quite a bit younger and, for me, better players
80m for Maguire is stupidity. fecking hell
I think 50 for Wan Bissaka is taking the p*** too
I think 50 for Wan Bissaka is taking the p*** too
And I joked after the holland game that I hope Man City are dumb enough to spend £70m on this lad...
However, when you look at the football Ole wants us to play. I don’t believe we will play a high line, pressing game. So his turtle pace won’t really effect us when we park the bus. The thing that I m perplexed about is that, is he that much better than Smalling? Smalling last season was as good as Maguire and the season before that, Smalling was a better player. Maguire looks to be like the lukaku of center backs. If we don’t watch his diet, he might be our next wwe champion. He already have some comedic value to him.
Either way, he was great to watch while he was at Hull and I thought, he could be a top cb one day. But since then, there are some elements in his game that can be easily exploited. Hopefully, he fulfills that potential.
However, when you look at the football Ole wants us to play. I don’t believe we will play a high line, pressing game. So his turtle pace won’t really effect us when we park the bus. The thing that I m perplexed about is that, is he that much better than Smalling? Smalling last season was as good as Maguire and the season before that, Smalling was a better player. Maguire looks to be like the lukaku of center backs. If we don’t watch his diet, he might be our next wwe champion. He already have some comedic value to him.
Either way, he was great to watch while he was at Hull and I thought, he could be a top cb one day. But since then, there are some elements in his game that can be easily exploited. Hopefully, he fulfills that potential.
I'm not convinced we're in for him as I was reading the same stories all last summer and nothing came of it.
Him and Smalling would be a physically dominant partnership which could work well.
Him and Smalling would be a physically dominant partnership which could work well.
We shouldn´t even be in for him. I would rather have Evans back then buying him.
No you really wouldn't.
I dare say it's a "smokescreen" for someone, that we'll end up not getting.
I'd have expected more noise about selling one of Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Lindelöf and Bailly if we were truly after buying a centre back.
There definitely are. I am hoping we aren't that stupid and desperate.
This. Better spend that 80m to wingers or attackers.
I would guess we are stupid and desperate
I'd guess that, too. He wouldn't be a bad signing. It's just a ridiculous price and I'd rather go with Tuanzebe and Godfrey in terms of English quota.
I doubt Smalling, Jones and Lindelof will go anywhere. Rojo and Bailly will be a hard sell, both probably on ridiculous wages and neither very good.
Ruben Dias would probably cost almost half of what's quoted for Maguire and his passing is a lot better than Maguire's.
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There were rumors of clubs showing interest in Bailly including Arsenal I believe. He is closer to the end of his current deal and not on mega wages so provided he can prove his fitness he might be the easiest one to move, particularly as at his age clubs will feel that he can still improve. Rojo, Smalling and Jones are near impossible to move at this point unless we eat some of their wages to get them off the books and it does appear that Lindelof is considered to be part of our future.
If we take a trip to the real world he's also not very highly rated by his own teams fans. He does have a fancy name though.
Maguire maybe the most overrated player ever if anyone sign him for 75m or more. But the question is: who would you prefer to partner the new signing, Smalling or Lindelof? I think Lindelof will never be a top class defender and Smalling's biggest weakness is that he is a mediocre passer of the ball.
Again that doesn't justify spending 75 million on someone who is little better than what we have .
You spend that amount on money on someone you think will take the team to the top level not an average big solid lump of a centre back like Maguire
Could be..
But what if Maguire is more suited to Ole s system than our defenders?
It s not just a question of who s better but who fits better
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