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I don't believe the following, but from various posts, and thoery in this thread, if Maguire has had his medical, but we are not announcing till after our tour hullaboo has died down, what happens if he gets injured paying for Leicester tonight?

He wouldn’t be playing tonight if that was the case mate. He’d have an “injury” or something like that.
 
I believe I answered your question so it is what it is. Leicester can't compete with us on any level, they aren't a top club so your point isn't really valid.
well not really

you stated that if we don't sign Maguire we will go back in January and sign him

we will be able to sign him for 25-30 million less than the asking price now.... from a team who don't need to sell and who are quite wealthy

what a bit of negotiation that would take and the reason, the key thing to persuade Leicester to part with their prize asset for 25/30m less is that we are a bigger club.... Wonderful! why hasn't Woody used that information before I wonder - I'm sure Liverpool (who were in a pretty similar position in attempts to sign VVD) are kicking themselves they didnt save a pile of cash by negotiating in a similar manner

the idea of conducting a transfer deal in that way is as plausible as swapping the family cow for a bag of magic beans pal
 
sorry i was taking the piss. Usually I would ask if that wasnt obvious but i think its fair to say hyperbole and sarcasm isnt very obvious these days :lol:

I hear you. :lol: These are indeed difficult times, my friend.
 
How has he been promoted, every post I've seen of his is just attacking people :wenger:

There aren't many posters whose name you remember on here. But he's certainly stood out for dreadful reasons.
 
Sorry. Many will disagree. But using 70 -80 £ mill on a cb. To only get top 4 the next 3-4 years to come is waste of money and madness.

Liverpool bought Van Dijk to aim to win premier league is more a good business. They were really close last season. And its just a matter of time. They will win the premier league.

And the odds that United will finish above Liverpool and City in the next 3-4 years are not low. And then Maguire turn 29-30. Van Dijk 31/32 and Salah 30/31. After Van Dijk and Salah on theirs way down period. Then its the time to taking over premier league and aim to win it.
Its when Rashford is on his peak.26-27, about 5-6 years. And then go out and spend money on players uqual or above Rashford level and quality. Like Jadon Sancho. And CB and CM on this level. You never know. Maybe De Ligt want a new challenge. After spending 3-4 years with Juventus.

Again. Think and aim to win premier league about 4-6 years. Save the money for the best quality as possible. Be ahead of City and Liverpool about 4-6 years.

A possible team and line up about 4-6 years time.

Bissaka - De Ligt - Lindelof - Shaw + Sancho - Fernandes - McTom/Longstaff - Martial/James + Chiesa/Greenwood - Rashford

United can get top 4 every season the next 3-4 years, IF you get and buy a top DCM. A player that run alot, aggressive to break down opponents attack and hard working. To shield and make it easier for the backline to defend. And even without Maguire.
A top DCM + United current cb options are good enough to get top 4. If you get the best out of Lindelof, Jones, Smalling, Bailly and Tuanzebe. Those are top 4 cb level and quality.

And beside a top dcm United might need a top RW at this moment. If not Sancho, then you have a hard work, skillful and determination attacking player in Federico Chiesa from Fiorentina, who can play all over the attacking line. He is my best recommendation. And im sure United will not regret if United buy Chiesa. And he does has taken english classes.
And Chiesa is around Rashford age, 21. Buy players that will dominate Europe and world football about 4-6 years.

Its not right time to win premier league the next 1-4 years. Those years will belong to Klopp and Pep. We are Klopp and Liverpool Era. Liverpool been in champion league final the last two season and lost only one match in premier league. Liverpool are on theirs peak period. Its not much United and a potential CB buy Maguire can do with it.
Accept your opponents quality and abilities. Save the money and spend big on players that will be best and dominate about 4-6 years. Mine best recommendations.

And with statement and opinions like this. Im not into discussion and will not reply. Times will answer, about 4-6 years time

Your assessment of our capacity to challenge is probably correct but I’m note sure that a couple of our players, our management, our sponsors and our supporters agree with your solution.
 
The wumming by the Leicester fans on here surely has to start resulting in bans

Most of them seem alright, but i'm pretty sure at least 3-4 of them are duplicate accounts of the same guy though. At least one of them pops into this thread hourly to spout the same, we hold all the cards, we won't be bullied etc. nonsense.
 
You are one irritable individual.
Do I know you mate? You seem to take almost all my posts personally. I don't mind it though, whatever floats your boat. At least say what the issue is, it would make it easier to resolve it.

That VP guy basically told me to feck off and I'm the one that is irritable? :lol: At least be fair when you try to take the moral high ground. It's funny, I really enjoy most of your posts to be honest. Seems like the feelings aren't mutual though, that's a shame.
well not really

you stated that if we don't sign Maguire we will go back in January and sign him

we will be able to sign him for 25-30 million less than the asking price now.... from a team who don't need to sell and who are quite wealthy

what a bit of negotiation that would take and the reason, the key thing to persuade Leicester to part with their prize asset for 25/30m less is that we are a bigger club.... Wonderful! why hasn't Woody used that information before I wonder - I'm sure Liverpool (who were in a pretty similar position in attempts to sign VVD) are kicking themselves they didnt save a pile of cash by negotiating in a similar manner

the idea of conducting a transfer deal in that way is as plausible as swapping the family cow for a bag of magic beans pal
Why are you taking everything I say so literal? It's just a theory of mine that I believe in. Leicester will not do as well as everyone thinks in the upcoming season and Maguire will be a lot more likely to push for a transfer, bringing the price down.

It's not something unheard of or unseen, maybe you don't believe it will happen but what's wrong in me having such an opinion? I think this is what the forum is for, expressing each others' views.

Do you personally want us to overpay by a big margin now so we get Maguire? I honestly don't know what's the best solution for our club but just want us to get it over with all this speculation.

I also prefer to back our club against the rest, might be irrational sometimes but I'd like to be positive about more things, especially since I back Ole 1000%.
 
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Sorry. Many will disagree. But using 70 -80 £ mill on a cb. To only get top 4 the next 3-4 years to come is waste of money and madness.

top 4 PL finish for 4 years generates at least £200 million probably closer on double that depending on how far we go in the CL and the brand exposure so, IF Maguire guarantees top 4 for 4 years that effectively means paying £80 million to receive at least £200 million, I ain't no fancy big city banker but I got a reckoning that might be the kinda investment we'd all like to make.
 
If we get Maguire that’s a very decent back five we’ve got assuming we start with DDG, AWB, Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw.
 
Badge kissing, never wanted to leave after all. Leicester is where the future is..etc etc
Bloody strange pre-season for Leicester. Here we are travelling to meet our worldwide fan base in Australia, Singapore, Shanghai - playing against the likes of Leeds (yeah so what), Inter Milan, Spurs, AC Milan.

Meanwhile Leicester’s prep is:

Scunthorpe (a)
Cheltenham (a)
Cambridge (a)
Stoke (a)
Atalanta (h)

Possible fixture with Rotherham also.

Looks like a real test. Lots of coach miles for Harry though.
 
Bloody strange pre-season for Leicester. Here we are travelling to meet our worldwide fan base in Australia, Singapore, Shanghai - playing against the likes of Leeds (yeah so what), Inter Milan, Spurs, AC Milan.

Meanwhile Leicester’s prep is:

Scunthorpe (a)
Cheltenham (a)
Cambridge (a)
Stoke (a)
Atalanta (h)

Possible fixture with Rotherham also.

Looks like a real test. Lots of coach miles for Harry though.
We did the globe trotting thing and it was a really shitty preseason for us, this works better.

We do a post season PR tour to Thailand every year though

I bet if managers were honest they’d rather stay in Europe themselves
 
Never as straight forward as that. Fee structure may be questioned, United may be playing a tactic of lengthening the negotiation and hoping Maguire pushes from his end (which will make Leicester compromise).

Why do you think a longer negotiation makes us drop the price, you talking like the old days where we would need the money. Also there is a deadline before the end of the transfer window, I dont know when it is but you wont be able to buy him at the last minute as rodgers wants his squad settled before then.

A maguire transfer request might remove his loyalty bonus from the fee but thats it, the problem for you guys though it seems he doesnt want to put a request in.
 
We did the globe trotting thing and it was a really shitty preseason for us, this works better.

We do a post season PR tour to Thailand every year though
Yes, surprised you didn’t do a pre-season in Thailand this year given the circumstances. Thought you may have tested yourselves above League 2 level though. Strange.

Good luck though, whatever happens to Harry.
 
If we get Maguire that’s a very decent back five we’ve got assuming we start with DDG, AWB, Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw.
I think we will surprise everyone with how strong that foundation may become for us. The only issue is it should have been done sooner so Ole could integrate the new players more efficiently.
 
Yes, surprised you didn’t do a pre-season in Thailand this year given the circumstances. Thought you may have tested yourselves above League 2 level though. Strange.

Good luck though, whatever happens to Harry.
We are we have 2 games on Saturday against Stoke and Rotherham, both sides looking to play 90 mins finishing with a home game vs Atalanta

We had a similar pre season in 2015-16 results don’t matter it’s about fitness and learning the tactical plan
 
We did the globe trotting thing and it was a really shitty preseason for us, this works better.

We do a post season PR tour to Thailand every year though

I bet if managers were honest they’d rather stay in Europe themselves

Funnily enough there was an interview on the BBC website about this the other day and the conclusion was that these low key pre seasons normally are more beneficial when the real games start. The globe trotting high profile dog and pony shows that some of the big clubs are doing every year now can have a negative effect and with the buggering about with time zones etc. you end up with players tired and a bit flat for the opening couple of league games and not in a good routine at home.
 
We are we have 2 games on Saturday against Stoke and Rotherham, both sides looking to play 90 mins finishing with a home game vs Atalanta

We had a similar pre season in 2015-16 results don’t matter it’s about fitness and learning the tactical plan
I agree mate. Just surprised me that you’d take on such low opposition to gain fitness and learn tactics.

Anyway. I think you will keep Harry, will have a big push for the top 6 this season. All the best.
 
Why do you think a longer negotiation makes us drop the price, you talking like the old days where we would need the money. Also there is a deadline before the end of the transfer window, I dont know when it is but you wont be able to buy him at the last minute as rodgers wants his squad settled before then.

A maguire transfer request might remove his loyalty bonus from the fee but thats it, the problem for you guys though it seems he doesnt want to put a request in.

Maguire doesn't need to formally hand in a request in order to push his move through. He can express his dissatisfaction in other ways and compromise Leicesters stubbornness on price. Its not ideal but its a plausible option for him if he becomes worried that his club aren't letting him go.

If he did express dissatisfaction it would be best to sell this window. Its not good for the squad to keep him around when you've damaged ties a bit.
 
A maguire transfer request might remove his loyalty bonus from the fee but thats it, the problem for you guys though it seems he doesnt want to put a request in.

Leicester are in the right to hold a solid stance over Harry and it's essentially his influence which is giving the club a stronger foot to stand on. Leicester have their valuation but 100% that extra 10 odd million they are squeezing out is due to the players incompetence to cause a fuss.
 
Leicester are in the right to hold a solid stance over Harry and it's essentially his influence which is giving the club a stronger foot to stand on. Leicester have their valuation but 100% that extra 10 odd million they are squeezing out is due to the players incompetence to cause a fuss.

:lol: images of Maguire trying to cause a fuss but being hampered by his incompetence, his slabhead and his inflatable unicorn.
 
Funnily enough there was an interview on the BBC website about this the other day and the conclusion was that these low key pre seasons normally are more beneficial when the real games start. The globe trotting high profile dog and pony shows that some of the big clubs are doing every year now can have a negative effect and with the buggering about with time zones etc. you end up with players tired and a bit flat for the opening couple of league games and not in a good routine at home.

Didn't LVG say he didn't like the day Utd organised their pre season games. Or was it Jose. Anyway, I agree. Why not have a couple against low level opposition, then maybe 3 or increasing difficulty. Must be shit having to travel to Asia to get fit. We only it for the promotional aspect.
 
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