Ahh my bad. My argument was that we have empirical evidence of corruption being quite high in Greece, whereas, outside of this recent occurrence, we don't have any such evidence of Maguire being the type to go on the piss and smack cops.
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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Ahh my bad. My argument was that we have empirical evidence of corruption being quite high in Greece, whereas, outside of this recent occurrence, we don't have any such evidence of Maguire being the type to go on the piss and smack cops.
Why hasn’t any other PL player had a similar incident this summer then?
Greece is a third world country, I would never go there
Hope we do draw them ....then batter them
I was trying to quickly think of a scenario where the charges are different to what actually happened, thought I done rather well haha!
It’s tough because the reasons behind the initial confrontation could be justified if they turn out to be true.
For a general person like us, I’d like to think that the company would put you on leave until the facts are out, but we both know that, that won’t happen.
I personally don’t like how the actions of an employee should reflect badly on the company, a company isn’t a manager of their employees actions outside of work or hold their hand every waking moment of the day. An incident happens and its down to the company to react based on how they want their employees to act, if they don’t fall in line, then act accordingly. But the actions affect the employees status at the company, not the company itself.
The club should act appropriately, do I think he should be sacked. No. Do I think he should be stripped of the captaincy? Temporarily. Yes. MUFC is reknowned for wanting their players to be squeaky clean. That being said, I don’t think this incident reflects badly on the club.
I may be talking myself round to seeing it on a different light as if you take the band off him, in effect i’m agreeing with you as by taking it off him, it’s saying “it makes the club look bad”
Should he go straight back into the squad. That one is on Ole.
Put him in shows you are backing him & face media scrutiny for backing a “thug”
Put him on the bench, shows you dispute his version of events and are effectively punishing him and don’t believe him.
They have to pay Germany back somehow.
“Do you know who he is
Do you know who he is
He’s Harry Maguire
and he's very rich!"
Read China is already mass producing "Support Harry" t-shirts.It's about time we all got behind our captain Harry and support him through this instead of some so called supporters calling for his (Slab)head on a Slab..!!!
I can guarantee you that not waiting for the appeal to proceed properly is not normal. Especially when you are informed 2 hours before the trial of what the charges are, etc... nobody can defend properly in that situation. I am sure you understand that part. It's a very serious issue! 2 hours to review the charges? It's laughable.
Anyway, United should and will wait for the appeal. It's the proper way of handling legal proceedings.
What country isn't third world country these days?
He should be in jaillll
He should be in Jailllllll
Harry Maguire
He should be in Jail
Simple yet effective
I've never heard of an arrest and conviction all within 48 hours like this, except maybe in ancient times.
What part, because the first part I'm just curious what would happen.
Cause the Greek authority would have no power over here.
And as for the Winter stuff. feck him, with that attitude.
But United should make a statement fully defending Harry and confirming he will still be the captain as everyone, including the club believe what he says
People who have never been in trouble with the police can easily get caught up in situations that could be dealt with by the police sensibly but instead get out of hand.
The charges were reported once he was arrested . We have all known what the charges were they went to court the next day to get charged
You have now. We have gone back to ancient times.
I'll create a player performance thread for his Prison United FC days just for you.
I'm not defending the guy that assaulted people, resisted arrest and repeatedly tried to bribe police and I'm having a nightmare. Right. He's the one that has made the club look terrible yet some fans are ready to have a blind eye for "their captain."
Good on the club acknowledging this sham of a trial.
Has he not been convicted in court? What language have I used that’s not applicable
I actually studied law, though admittedly it wasn’t criminal law There s the appeal you know as communicated by the clubYou ask as if there aren’t alternatives to a convicted criminal for captain
For an ordinary guy it would be jail time then... Maguire privileges might make things easier.
The UK?
This. Most people I know have never had any interaction with the police and most likely never will either. Hey, maybe we Scandinavians just live sheltered lives?
Admittedly, I'm trying to catch up with this news of him being found guilty.
So, it's reported that his sister was injected with something, and then he had a confrontation with the police. I'm just trying to connect the dots. Can somebody enlighten me the bits between Event A and Event B? Can't seem to find a decent news link.
So, it's reported that his sister was injected with something, and then he had a confrontation with the police. I'm just trying to connect the dots. Can somebody enlighten me the bits between Event A and Event B? Can't seem to find a decent news link.
The internet seems to always default into two different diehard camps. On any bleeding subject.
Their justice system is a joke and rubbish, we know that.
How come Maguire is letting this happened though. Don't give them easy reasons to use charge you. It's good that he is fighting back. Prevention is better though.
What is the actual story?
Why fight when it is easier to go away. I get pride/ego is always there. You're in foreign country and if you make troubles, you're get charges easily. Maybe in england, culturally fighting is normal so maybe there is leniency when the authorities are involved... I don't know, but in different country, behave well and away from any troubles is always best.
How come Maguire is letting this happened though. Don't give them easy reasons to use charge you. It's good that he is fighting back. Prevention is better though.
What is the actual story?
Why fight when it is easier to go away. I get pride/ego is always there. You're in foreign country and if you make troubles, you're get charges easily. Maybe in england, culturally fighting is normal so maybe there is leniency when the authorities are involved... I don't know, but in different country, behave well and away from any troubles is always best.
Where are those three lawyers who 'acted' for us in the Herrera transfer when you need them.
He may well be guilty but he may well also have pretty good reasons if the stuff about his sister is true.
The problem is putting yourself in these situations in the first place. Just dont go out in these sh1t holes in first place, simple as. Or even stay at home like the rest of the us during covid.
He may well be guilty but he may well also have pretty good reasons if the stuff about his sister is true.
The problem is putting yourself in these situations in the first place. Just dont go out in these sh1t holes in first place, simple as. Or even stay at home like the rest of the us during covid.
This. Most people I know have never had any interaction with the police and most likely never will either. Hey, maybe we Scandinavians just live sheltered lives?
Well that does explain alot. Scandanavia being one of the safest places in the world. Beautiful region too.
I'd imagine any interaction with police over there would be much more pleasant anyway.
The UK/EU unfortunately, is far far from it.
Imagine grown men pressing charges against someone for verbal assault. Verbal assault ffs
Has he not been convicted in court? What language have I used that’s not applicable
Think there were a few pouched animals jumping around.
Agreed.
It's probably as creditable as the Greek courts, if this case is anything to go by.
He's got a massive head on his neck
They wanted cash but he offered a cheque
At least for a change it wasn't Shrek
He's the got the whole world as a head
They wanted cash but he offered a cheque
At least for a change it wasn't Shrek
He's the got the whole world as a head
With the amount of snowflakes around everything is possible nowadaysImagine grown men pressing charges against someone for verbal assault. Verbal assault ffs
They would have gone to the wrong courthouse.
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