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Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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To be fair if you feed me well, I will say nice things about you too.
If you think being a captain means more than just some guy who's made to watch the coin flip these days you're having a laugh.
Captains are just titles, unless they really command genuine respect from teammate (something you can't buy or make) it doesnt matter who are our captain. If it's not someone like keane i doubt that armband means shit.
Footballers are pros these days. They're either colleague or friends. You dont expect someone who the manager givens an armband to suddenly decides to play godfather.
Captains are just titles, unless they really command genuine respect from teammate (something you can't buy or make) it doesnt matter who are our captain. If it's not someone like keane i doubt that armband means shit.
Footballers are pros these days. They're either colleague or friends. You dont expect someone who the manager givens an armband to suddenly decides to play godfather.
Is this something we are doing wrong as well?
Probably, several managers have mentioned that they appreciated the fact that SAF would have a glass of wine with them after games. Being a great host goes a long way when it comes to building good relationships and while you shouldn't do it just for self interest it will definitely play in your favour at some point, humans are easily influenced and they like to compare situations.
I agree.
Actually The Sun did the research, but buried the lede to garner clicks. You are correct that it was the full group of celebs that racked up the bill, including a Love Island guy, Snooker Champion, Chelsea player etc.
Maguire paid a fraction of it cause he mostly drank beers, whereas half the bill came from two very expensive champagne bottles.
More details in my post earlier in the thread here, including a link to a non-Sun hosted version of the article.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/har...nt-with-police-in-greece.457003/post-25955487
Very often, captains are chosen because of particular leadership skills, attitude and influence on the team spirit. You see, many of us felt that prior to Harry Maguire’s arrival, there seemed to be a dearth of players at the club with those qualities. You may believe Ashley Young was made captain because of his Nationality, but for most who followed the club, it was clear that even with a lack of quality, he had a kind of attitude that was found lacking in the regular starters for various reasons.
I don’t know who you felt was a prime candidate for that role last summer. Pogba had been tried, but his refusal to commit to the club made him a bad candidate. There’s also the issue that he seems to have a hard time rising above himself when the going gets tough. De Gea was tried, but I don’t think anyone ever felt he was a good candidate, as leadership and command is one of his few relative weaknesses. Matic was a shout, but at the time he seemed fifth choice in midfield, and on merit too. Lindelöf you might suggest, but to me seems like he needs security rather than excuding so far. Many are young, of course. Rashford was also an option, in spite of being very young, because of his attitude, ambition, social awareness and confidence to always try. He was English, so it might surprise you that he wasn’t chosen. To me it makes sense, though. At his age, he should be allowed to focus on developing his own play for a few more years I think. Luke Shaw? Fred? Martial? I don’t think so. McTominay, Wan Bissaka or Bailly? No. Dan James or Mason Greenwood? Come on!
I think it was quite clear why so many at the time were screaming about lack of natural leadership skills, and as Maguire for some reason or other was renowned for showing suchlike at every team he had been in. You would be surprised, some even suggested that we spend 10m£ extra on him just for those skills, and others advocated making him captain upon entering Carrington. That didn’t happen, Solskjær waited until the 17th of January, at which point I think everyone inside the club seemed to think he was the only natural candidate. Up until then, he had shared vice captaincy with De Gea, Matic, Rashford, Tuanzebe (!) and Jesse Lingard (!!). I guess you could say he earned it, and that it wasn’t difficult to earn neither. And if you think De Gea, Matic or Pogba were natural candidates at the time, overlooked because of their nationalities, I can’t help you with that.
As for Maguire being made Captain so early. Ever think that's a big part of the reason why we paid so much for him? He was seen as the future Captain when he was bought. But we also thought that Young would be with us until the summer at least, so he'd have a full season in the team before the official appointment. It was obvious to me when we bought him that Harry was groomed to be our next captain.
For the years before we only had captains due to seniority that rarely started. We didn't have any real candidates in the team.
Many others in here have evaluated the other candidates and (like me) found them lacking. The only other option I could have liked would be Rashford, but he is too young in my opinion, plus you rarely want an attacking player to be captain if you have other options. You want the attacker to focus on getting into positions of play, not keeping an eye on the over all field to make adjustments if we look uneven or lacking focus in certain areas.
One of the most important roles for a captain on the field these days is he's the one person allowed to talk to the ref in big situations. You'd want someone that's calm, cool and collected. Not someone running over with emotions fuming cause their clear goal chance was just cut off.
We finally have a Captain that starts every game. He has the character, and will get the trophies.
For the years before we only had captains due to seniority that rarely started. We didn't have any real candidates in the team.
Many others in here have evaluated the other candidates and (like me) found them lacking. The only other option I could have liked would be Rashford, but he is too young in my opinion, plus you rarely want an attacking player to be captain if you have other options. You want the attacker to focus on getting into positions of play, not keeping an eye on the over all field to make adjustments if we look uneven or lacking focus in certain areas.
One of the most important roles for a captain on the field these days is he's the one person allowed to talk to the ref in big situations. You'd want someone that's calm, cool and collected. Not someone running over with emotions fuming cause their clear goal chance was just cut off.
We finally have a Captain that starts every game. He has the character, and will get the trophies.
2 good posts I agree with
who would you appoint based on all they have won? who is our most successful player? pogba for italian title and world cup?
Two very, very different versions of events.
One seems believable, the other like a rejected script for Taken 5.
What the heck?
New (crazy) information out of left field.
Maybe Greek courts are run like a sketch show?
Bloody hell!
Liam Neeson already in talks to play Slab, nonetheless.
So do police station in these islands not have CCTV. They do here don't they? They usually show people when they are being charged etc.
Never a dull day in Greek courts
“Do you know who I am?”
Ronnie fecking Pickering?
Ronnie fecking Pickering?
So what does caf believe. Did the get away car go to the wrong place Did police kick Harry’s shins, did Harry say do you know who I am, did one of his friends shout feck the police and punch one of them. Apart from his sister allegedly being stabbed with a needle and feinting the rest is all comedy
Did police kick Harry’s shins, did Harry say do you know who I am, did one of his friends shout feck the police and punch one of them. Apart from his sister allegedly being stabbed with a needle and feinting the rest is all comedyCome on. Some of you lot must have been arrested on a Greek Island. Do they not have CCTV in their police stations showing all that is supposed to have happened there?
Check this out for a sensible, balanced post. A drop of water in a desert (make that @Desert Eagle ) of nonsense.
So if the Police never saw them fighting Albanians why did they try to arrest them in the first place?
lots of missing information and holes here, all seems very strange.
lots of missing information and holes here, all seems very strange.
If Liam Neeson isnt in the retelling of this story, ill be disappointed.
Maguire will find you. And he will kill you. Provided you don't try to run away from him.
This is all very strange. If your sister had been attacked by some thugs of course you would be angry and angry if you.were being put in handcuffs.
Something isn't right with this at all.
CCTVs miraculously stop working when you need them at such dodgy places.
It's really weird. Why have these Albanians not been arrested, but there again if you were the police on a small Greek Island would you want to be messing with Albanian gangsters.
Did they say this happened inside the station?
Yes this does seem strange, who did they say they were breaking up a fight between
Nothing will stick here, this is all based on hearsay and unsubstantiated claims.
You would think on a holiday island, where there could be all sorts of dodgy stuff going on there would be CCTV everywhere.
Where’s cctv to backup police allegations ?
There must be cctv inside the police station
There must be cctv inside the police station
What I don't is why are the police saying they arrested Maguire in the town? and Maguire is saying they got arrested at the police station after being driven there by their own hired van?
And when they got arrested what happened to his sister? so many things need cleaning up.
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