Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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Unbelievable that anyone can question corruption in the South Yorkshire police force, I mean ffs, Hillsborough is the tip of the iceberg. If you know your history, as Bob Marley would say.
But what occurred during that altercation is very much up for debate.
It's not beyond the police to make false claims to cover themselves, neither is it beyond Maguire to do the same.
Just looking at the logo of that shite paper makes me cringe
If I die in a Mykonos street, woah, woah
If I die in a Mykonos street, woah, woah
If I die in a Mykonos street there'll be two dead Albanians and a slightly bruised Cop at my feet, woah .....
If I die in a Mykonos street, woah, woah
If I die in a Mykonos street there'll be two dead Albanians and a slightly bruised Cop at my feet, woah .....
Yes there was a massive incident. You’ve proved my point. They didn’t invent this tragedy out of nothing.
While I'm sure plenty of people are capable of lying and embellishing situations to their advantage, it seems to me that the darkest allegations (the ones regarding Daisy Maguire) are getting ignored by a lot of posters in here.
Fine if those posters hate Harry Maguire, but by extension they are calling his fiancee Fern a liar, his sister a liar, his brother (is it James?) Maguire a liar, everyone of the people in Harry Maguire's story has to have been lying in order for the Greek prosecutions case to hold water. That seems outlandish to me, and EASILY proven or disproven if the Maguire's have gone to medial professionals.
All those people are being extremely vocal on social media in Harry's defence - to whit if they were lying they would ALL be guilty of perjury and that's a bigger crime than any scuffle, at least in the justice system of the United Kingdom it is, not sure about Greece.
If he's lying then I'd be more disappointed than because of what he did there in Greece. Mistakes happen but sticking by false story would say more about his character. One reason I believe Maguire is because club stood by him. That gives me more confidence he's telling the truth.
did you miss the part where they accused the victims of picking the pockets of the dead, pissing on police and attacking the police first aiders out of nothing?
Not sure what that proves. Some US cops are driven by racist hate, and exagrate existing situations to justify their use of guns. But the situation exists.
In this case we have people claiming this was a pre planned shake down, or that the cops have invented total lies without any context.
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To justify their previous actions in the incident.
you mean out of spite and with no evidence with no relevance to the incident as you admit it was afterwards.
We are going in circles. I respect your opinion, mine simply differs.
As an aside, Im also proving a point that you can be a massive fan of Maguire as a footballer and proud he is our captain (I believe both) and also think he isn't purely innocent as he claims.
Yeah, but he hospitalized 12 police officers on that fateful night, many of whom suffered debilitating brain injuries of which they may never recover.
It's so bad. Like headbutting Mother Theresa, you just don't it.
When I saw the interview with the Beeb my first reaction as a United supporter was of anger of the injustice done towards Maguire. Having now thought about more rationally, his story does sound far fetched. I could believe bits about macho Greek cops showing off their power, but the kidnapping
and beating up a famous footballer?!?! Wtf?!?!?! Why??? Greece is a relatively normal democratic country with liberal values. The police may not quite live up to the standards we would expect nowadays in the UK or NL, but I’ve never heard a story about Greek coppers as ridiculous as this before. I don’t think Maguire’s lying but I do think there’s been a massive misunderstanding somewhere down the line. Neither version of events add up.
You have to believe that somebody nearby took a photo or even some film of what happened outside the cop shop that will blow one side of the story - I'm believing what he's saying but he's put his bollocks on the block if he's lying !
There's something oddly reassuring about that picture. I was starting to visualise Mykonos as some kind of super rich resort dominated by mobsters and thrillseeker celebs. Turns out it's the same sort of Greek Island that I remember from going there decades ago.It was dark and at night remember, and the police station hardly looks like one if you didn't know what it was. Let's not forget Maguire isn't expecting to go to the police station, they police told his driver to take him there.
When you've just had an altercation with somebody, you're already quite drunk and then something weird like that happens no wonder he was feeling extremely paranoid. Why is there so many plain clothed policeman around waiting for them?
Oddly enough, I don't disbelieve either side. I think Maguire really did feel things were going the way he described - he was taking his sister and fiancée away from danger, and tumbled into a situation he didn't understand and couldn't control. The bit where he talked about being being relieved when he was put into a cell sounded very real to me. Meanwhile the police saw his group as the aggressors, things escalated faster than they expected - and suddenly they're under massive scrutiny and react by exaggerating their case as well.
I suspect the presence of a prosecution lawyer who sees it as his big chance for fame doesn't help either. I think the whole "apology" thing is about what normally happens with tourists (rich or otherwise) - a plea bargain and an offer of compensation to any officer complaining of being injured. However Maguire had a problem because he had to fight the case, when he claimed innocence - United and England expected him to fight it, and his lawyer told him that he could.
I've no idea how/when the case will play out in the courts - meanwhile though, I hope he and his family can cope with the publicity and stress. And for purely selfish reasons, as a United fan, I hope Harry can keep it out of his head while he's playing.
Actually, this is a fair point. How would the media reacted had it been Raheem Sterling?
"Those Manchester United players in the dressing room and the club will stand by Harry Maguire, and myself as a fan in the media will not judge him in any way, shape or form because of the reality is that these things happen in life."
Gary Neville
Cringeworthy statement, but Pogba was a disgrace when he gave away a penalty
Gary Neville
Cringeworthy statement, but Pogba was a disgrace when he gave away a penalty
It was dark and at night remember, and the police station hardly looks like one if you didn't know what it was. Let's not forget Maguire isn't expecting to go to the police station, they police told his driver to take him there.
When you've just had an altercation with somebody, you're already quite drunk and then something weird like that happens no wonder he was feeling extremely paranoid. Why is there so many plain clothed policeman around waiting for them?
Is that not the same place where the first and best Jason Bourne movie ended??
I don’t see anything cringeworthy about it, and the comparison with Pogba is bizarre.
Spot on.
If that is what he really said then it is no longer a question of whether Neville is both biased and racist.
I heard, with his bare hands, he ripped the tongue out of one of them poor officers mouth. Bare hands! Grotesque. At night, it was dark, who knows.. Mother Theresa, I dont know. One shouldn't do that
The cops version of events doesn’t sound right. However, why on earth would the Greek cops want to beat up and arrest of all people a celebrity footballer to cover up something?! Surely they would simply deny it or carry out a botched investigation?? Why on earth would they go to these ends to cover something up??? They could have guessed the scrutiny they would come under by doing it this way. Doesn’t sound at all plausible to me.
With our luck I'll bet we get Olympiakos in our CL group.
The team bus will get ambushed by cops on the way to the ground in Piraeus.
Have to agree with this. I can't help but feeling this if this was Sterling or Pogba, they would be torn apart by the media and be getting far more stick than what Maguire is getting.
I've not been following this all too much. But, from the bits that I've seen and heard, I don't see any real reason to not give Maguire the benefit of the doubt. His story seems to check out and is, imo, fairly believable. The timeline of how things happened seem to make sense, so I'll back him.
Social media I am afraid but i remember in the 80s some fans having hate ins on Sunbed Blackmore , Hitler Phelan and Terry Gibson
And you don´t see the difference?
hopefully this blows over now
some interesting points addressed
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This literally happens all the time. I've been victim of this myself.
"A rich man came to Mykonos and thought that he could behave how he wants "
is it just me who finds this an odd thing to say
is it just me who finds this an odd thing to say
I wish he's stop turning into a circus. Appeal by all means but do it quietly.
I'd say that's probably the last he speaks about it until the trial tbh.
To be honest, if I was the Maguires lawyer, I would seriously think twice before advising Harry and his siblings to go back to Greece, testify under oath and undergo thorough cross-examination. The battle lines are now clearly drawn, and chances are it is going to end very badly for the Maguires, especially if the prosecution go for the jugular and demand a custodial sentence. This should have been best resolved away from the courtroom especially after the prosecutors said they just wanted an apology to bury the case, but now that chance is gone. After watching Harry's interview I can only wish him the best of luck, he will need it.
I hope so.
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