I mean the demand at the time was probably what made his price to rise. That and the fact everyone knew we were desperate to sign a CB. These would make the price of any player to rise beyond market value. I'm amazed that some people are actually using hindsight from his loss of form to imply that buying him at that cost was a massive mess up by the club. He definitely wasn't worth that on the market but we needed someone and he fitted the profile of what we wanted. It's unfortunate it seems not to be working out in the long run but he's a decent third choice CB (also thanks to his fitness record), I think we really should be backing him in spite of his deficiencies. It's understandable for rival fans to pour abuses at him but I'm always amazed at how much we abuse our own. The whole thing brings back sad memories of Fellaini and all the unnecessary abuse our own fans always dished out towards him.
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Poor fella. Doesn't do himself any favors by the way he talks but still. I think we should just give him some backing while we find an exit strategy...
I expect he's actually injured but certainly wouldn't discount the idea. Third choice isn't a role Harry's needed to get used to throughout his career so it might be a sort of 'adjustment' period.
There were comparisons to VVD at the time snd because it was us the price was always going to be grossly inflated.
What annoys me is that we bought Lindelof for twice the price that Leicester paid for Harry at about the same time.
See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
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ETH has said time and again that Maguire has lot of "experience"I saw meme today that he was 5 times relegated so far in his career. How?
See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat with our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this.
Nonsense. Making him out to be what? Any articles you can point to?
The abuse has gone too far, better he leaves for his own good at this point.
Making him out to be worthy of his fee and this leader for club and country when that's not the case.
They also hang transfer fees over the heads of all our players as a stick to beat them with constantly besides the most expensive defender of all time.
If you're blind to it then so be it but no one who follows us or knows of us doesn't notice it.
Better he leave not just for himself but the good of the club as well, our form and solidity in the XI are much better when he's not in the squad. We're a much tougher team to face and play against without him on the pitch
To be fair he did give him credit for rattling Salah early that game. He's changed his mind about him
Again, any evidence of this barrage of media suggesting this is the case?
Getting on 100 pages here (by far the most of any) about a player who hasn't even started the last 4 PL games (fairly so). No one else gets this much scrutiny.
I saw meme today that he was 5 times relegated so far in his career. How?
Its not really a meme since it is true. Relegated with Sheffield, twice with Hull and Wigan as club player. Now he relegated with England in the Nations League. It is harsh though, he was really young for some of those relegations and in other relegations he was the picked as player of the year from what ive been reading here. Its not like he was the main reason those team relegated but it is funny to add that to his long list of faults.
Anyone believe he is actually injured ? One of the rare good trait of him was always available before i don't believe he is suddenly injured and the fact that it was british media who put the report first not from ten hag makes me think it's just PR stunt since he is no longer first choice at the club.
See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
Two years pundits and journos defended Maguire. Two years they were pushing a story that Maguire needs better partner than Lindelof and that Lindelof IS the problem (while he was playing the same, if not better than Maguire). Then they started to push a story how defensive midfielders are a reason for his form
Even this summer they tried to convince us how Maguire is safe and Varane and Martinez will fight for 2nd spot
Let's all agree that Harry Maguire is a bit shite, he shouldn't be United captain and that hopefully Southgate starts him in Qatar - thank you and happy Friday to all.
He did make a mistake. His mistake was to commit himself to a tackle he was never going to win and vacating the space he should have held. If he held his space and the German player scored from a long range shot, then obviously he is not to blame. The midfield would be blamed and rightly so.
I agree with you that a lot of players are abused and it is non racial. Maguire shouldn't be called a fridge.
Why do you want him to start for England then?
See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
Just goes to show that 99% of ex-players, now pundits are borderline idiots.
Not ever borderline. Just straight dumb as they come.
Starting to think Pogba could’ve saved himself years of stick from the Sky pundits by appearing on the Overlap
At this level there is no place to hide. You need to go out and face it. Like Fellaini did.
Amen
He should have changed nationality and play for England instead. He wouldn't have won the WC of course but talks of him needing protection would be all over the news
Based on that post, he’s probably not an England supporter.
Genius
See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
These pundits are one of the reasons why Maguire is receiving so much abuse from social media. If only those pundits just say that Maguire is shit and never deserve to be United player ,i guarantee 90% of the abuse will dry down ( which they should for the sake of national team ). People just don't like blatant bullshit as if we didn't see how he perform week in week out, it makes people wanted to abuse him more after reading the protection he is getting from british media and pundits.If Souness wanted to stop the abuse for Maguire just call him shit. Defending him wouldn't help when it came from someone who blame Pogba for bad weather.
Don't tell me it's impossible for british media and pundits to abuse english player , go ask David Beckham, they literally wanted to kill him after that world cup even though he didn't perform bad at all.
Fellaini was booed and abused just because he didn't play like Paul Scholes , but he never hides , never use stupid PR stunt and keep working hard on the pitch, he was a proper United player.
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does anyone other team do this? When a player isn’t working at all do they just hold on, even if selling means a huge loss? I guess Madrid and Hazard but Hazard is plagued with injury. It’s just weird
I think there's just too much unnecessary negativity aimed at him and his performances. Will be tough to get past this.
If you can find one single proper article saying his fee was a decent piece of business or good value, I will literally eat my hat.See this is what people mean by him being the most protected player we've had in recent memory with the press
Graeme fecking Souness never met a foreign United player he didn't despise yet he's going to bat for our most out of form flop
Literally had a go at Martinez just a few weeks ago after he dropped consecutive MOTM performances in big matches.
For all the memes on social media, there's very much been a clear agenda to make him out to be something he absolutely isn't by the media in this country.
Countless players have gotten fan abuse while wearing the shirt over the years, almost none have had the continuous and steadfast backing of the press no matter performance like this. The same press who slaughter, deride and pile on his better performing teammates with zero remorse or second thought...
There are two sentences in that article that people won't agree with- that Maguire never on his own cost United a game and the line on whether he 'can get back to being a top player'. The rest is more about Souness and his disdain for social media. The piece is not lauding Maguire.
It is not weird if a player has signed a long contract and is on a monster wage and does not want to leave the club.
But you can't find an article questioning about his fee either. No one said it's good business but no one also said it's a bad business , while you can easily find those bad articles for Pogba or Lukaku fee , especially Souness , you can find him blaming Pogba for literally everything. This double standard is what makes people sick and wanted to abuse Maguire more.
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Some 'media' people have no idea how media work. The more they defend the indefensible the more outrage they end up causing. The only smart person in this whole ordeal is ETH. He took Maguire out of the limelight up until he the player is in the right mental situation to face the public and produce good football. That was undone by the English Ole who played him for England and by the media who expected that everyone would like him cause he is English
He doesn't even play that much for us and there are so many talks about him, whether extremely abusing him or extremely defending.
See the problem? the more people talk about him it will encourage a lot more to talk about him.
He just needs to be left alone. Defending him is not really defending at this point, people will get angry at it. Maybe thats what Sourness wants. Feck him the scouse bastard.
See the problem? the more people talk about him it will encourage a lot more to talk about him.
He just needs to be left alone. Defending him is not really defending at this point, people will get angry at it. Maybe thats what Sourness wants. Feck him the scouse bastard.
To be fair, there were plenty of us praising Harry after our 4 PL wins. Rock solid performances in those games.
He is Scottish not scouse
???????? No. Just.... no.
You say that yet Maguire is getting blamed for the Havertz goal, yeah he gave the ball away but 70 yards from goal, the midfield again were slow to track back or press.
The simple fact is you'd rather not give any players ten yards of space on the edge of the box, you do that you'll get punished at near enough any level, so Maguire did do the right thing by stepping out, the space behind wasn't an issue if the midfielders tracked the run, they didn't.
Yes, but by then, Terry had plenty of goodwill built up in the bank with the home fans to support him with, through solid performance and leadership on the field. And i am sure he says the right things to the fans to get their support.
Maguire has little or no credit built up. His habit of making tone deaf statements in the media and social media only makes things worse for himself.
As said plenty of times, support is not unconditional and not a one way street. The player must live up to his end of the bargain too.
Regarding the CL final, terry missed his kick but they had not lost. There was still a chance. It was Anelka’s miss that was decisive.
Varane is proven quality with his 4 CL trophies compared to Maguire’s 4 relegations.
Plus he did not enjoy the blind support from the pundits like Maguire enjoyed and did not make statements that reveal his lack of self awareness and complacency.
Naturally Varane makes it easy for the fans to support him, unlike Maguire.
Nah, Maguire’s receiving criticism relating to his performances. Sure there is mocking and jokes but they are centered around his on field performances.
Pogba and Rashford had to endure criticisms not only for their performances but also their off field personal activities.
And all these pale in comparison to what Beckham and Ronaldo had to go through. That was pure hatred encouraged by media witch-hunts. Whatever Maguire is going through now is child’s play.
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