Chin up Arry. Least you were picked for this game so you must be doing something right. Have they announced the team of the tournament for this year's Nations League yet?
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Chin up Arry. Least you were picked for this game so you must be doing something right. Have they announced the team of the tournament for this year's Nations League yet?
You don’t deserve the over the top abuse Harry but you were wank yesterday
Have you considered leaking something about Eric Dier, Arry? Can you understand his English?
The gaffe leading to the first goal is typically the sort of play that put us in the position we were last year. It doesn't matter for a defender to play 95% of the game ok only to bungle and gift 2 clear chances a game to the opposition.
Harry you are awesome. I believe in you so does the holy trinity of Gabby agbonlahor, Sam matterface, Jermaine Jenas. Let’s meet with some journos and solve this crap performance v Germany crisis. Class is temporary form is permanent Harry.
And also, that bald cnut Chiellini called and said you are crap. Turncoat.
That happened frequently in the game though thanks to the forward line not holding the ball up.
Same with the midfield, especially in the first half.
Yes, the issue of ball retention will be amplified of Maguire is out of position when it happens, but blimey, there was still a fair bit for Germany to do before they scored an excellent goal. It was hardly a clear chance.
He should be a 5th CB on the list after Martinez, Varane, Lindelof and Jones.
There is more movement in the original resident evil games playing as chris redfield than this guy.
It takes a big man to admit he made a mistake, Harry. Proud of you.
Usually when a United man or a player playing for England is out of form, I really want then to get it back. The problem is Harry is such a unlikeable person in general, fueled by the leak the rumours, I just cannot wait to get rid of him. A defender like him was relevant 10 or 15 years back, in the current game, you need pace and agility of which he has none. He literally needs a partner to do the running for him and a CDM to cover his back. I really don't know what he offers. Fyi, I think the personal abuse hurled at him is disgusting (social media), I dont get why people can't just stick to football comments.
Because of what you yourself mentioned earlier in your post - the leaks, the lack of responsibility, the blaming of everybody else. Abuse is unwarranted but you can at least see why it's coming his way.
On the second German goal, he loses the ball very high up the pitch, which is mistake one. He then is slow to get back, Henderson then has to drop in to centre back for him which then means that there is no midfield pressure on Havertz. If he’d got back in sooner, Henderson pushes out and pressures the shot. In the scenario where he doesn’t he ought to be the one to push onto Havertz until the defence gets an opportunity to reset. This was his second mistake.
How is he starting for the English vs Germany of all teams. Surely one of the most baffling stories in football.
The abuse he gets goes far beyond what a footballer should receive, and that has happened to plenty of England players in the past who have been scapegoated at major tournaments and what not.
But it is simply undeniable that he has been at fault for many goals conceded in a United shirt over the past season or so. And undeniable today that he was fully at fault for the 1st goal and at least partially (being generous there) for the 2nd.
Cute, but ok muppet.
Something is going very wrong in that head and has been for a long time.
I see him at an Olympiacos in the near future, ah, he can't go to Greece.
Championship then.
I see him at an Olympiacos in the near future, ah, he can't go to Greece.
Championship then.
In a time whereby a decent England CB is hard to come by, neutral fans don't even want the Manchester United captain in his prime years (by age) to start or even be in the squad for England, let that sink in
Our £85m captain. <3
We've seen it before at United, a spell of poor form invites pressure and it snowballs from there. The incident in Greece really didn't help either in terms of attracting even more scrutiny.
It's got to him because whatever you say about Maguire, he was before arriving here and in his first 36 months or so, a very composed player.
He now looks a bag of nerves. It's hard to see him turning this around whilst in the United spotlight.
It's got to him because whatever you say about Maguire, he was before arriving here and in his first 36 months or so, a very composed player.
He now looks a bag of nerves. It's hard to see him turning this around whilst in the United spotlight.
Needs to take some time out of the spotlight, quietly join a team that sits deep and then rebuild his career.
What he doesn’t need is the World Cup holding up an even bigger magnifying glass. I think Southgate needs to take a lot of the blame for last night.
What he doesn’t need is the World Cup holding up an even bigger magnifying glass. I think Southgate needs to take a lot of the blame for last night.
Well he kinda created that for himself I think, with his behavior. First there was the assault and bribery in Greece a few years ago. Then the cocky celebration after scoring against San Marino as if that proved all his critics wrong. He has also constantly been aggressively defending himself in media refusing to own up to his poor performances. The last thing that comes to mind is what a coward captain he's been. Whenever the team or a teammate has been under fire he's never stepped up and tried to protect them (leaving difficult post match interviews to De Gea and completely throwing Pogba under the bus when the media witch hunt was out for him).
If he had at least been a stand-up guy with some self-awareness and courage then I am sure people would not be so harsh on him now.
When did he ever throw Pogba under the bus? What are you talking about?
coward captain? Least he didn't pull what lots of people's favourites did last season and cry off injured so they wouldn't have to play during the teams terrible results.
Our fans would constantly say how bailly was not good enough as a starter for united as he always had a reckless moment in him but Maguire is no different, at least bailly didn't need extra protection in terms of adjusting tactics of playing low block, switching to a back 3 and having 2 defensive midfielders like we have seen with Maguire for club and Country.
Oh I'm not trying to defend Pogba by any means. He was truly a virus and a good riddance. But I remember a few years ago when Mourinho was still the manager there was a media witch hunt for Pogba, and that's the kind of situation where you expect a team captain to stand up for his teammate.
If he did join another team, I feel the media spotlight will still be in him.
We fans criticise players for making mistakes, not giving 100%, etc, but the media is only interested in selling newspapers or hits on digital.
I want Harry Maguire to start playing well again, as I would any United player for that matter, but he's a shadow of his former self.
To me he seems to stroll about the pitch, with an air of authority that he just doesn't possess at the moment, I'm sure that when he first joined United he didn't play like this, I'm certain that he was much more dynamic, strong, quicker on everything he did, but this past season he's looked slow, ponderous, and slows everything down.
Yes, you could probably blame inflexable Southgate, this was an opportunity to give other players a go, to see if they can perform well against a decent, but not great, German team, but I'm afraid that Southgate is, in my opinion, not a good enough manager to be able to change things around, preferring to stick to his tried and trusted team. It was obvious against a very poor Italy that the balance of the team was wrong, Saka at LWB for one, religiously playing three CB's another.
He could still end the year a world cup winning legend.
Love the way some of his defenders are actually trying to paint that as ok performance.
For me Bailly was the best CB we had, but his injury record was poor.
Even now I wish we still had Bailly instead of Maguire and Lindelof, I would loved to have seen Bailly with Varane, I feel that Varane would have talked to Bailly during the game to keep his concentration levels up, but I have a feeling that Bailly just wanted to play regularly, and, looking at it now, he would have played second fiddle to Martinez. If Martinez and/or Varane get injured, then I fear for our defence.
England are winning the world cup with him at the back, nor with Southgate as manager,
It was De Geas faultIt’s everyone around him.
Why would a Leicester player stand up for a Manchester United player ?
I blame Maguire for a lot of our defeats and feel he isn't good enough for United but why would Maguire stick up for Pogba when he himself was at Leicester?
It's beyond ridiculous now, he should be sent on a break. Not to Greece though.
You haven't thought this one through. Have you?
You realize Maguire wasn't at the club yet at the time of Mourinho's sacking?
He should move to a club like Wolves, West Ham, Everton etc he'd still be really good for them. Especially a club that doesn't play a high line.
He's a beast in the air and good on the ball. Just not good enough for the very top and now his confidence has taken a hit, his flaws really get exposed, making him look absolutely awful. Needs to move club and be dropped from England so he can rebuild.
He's a beast in the air and good on the ball. Just not good enough for the very top and now his confidence has taken a hit, his flaws really get exposed, making him look absolutely awful. Needs to move club and be dropped from England so he can rebuild.
Yerry Mina is basically his ceiling
I think williams sumed it up best, he's "made it" that is probably what he thinks as well.
I can't work out if it's narcissism, incompetence or stupidity.
Player must look at him and probably think I can run this guy.
Worst thing about it, is his positional sense and anticipation is really really poor, which are not physical attributes they are tactical and mental.
He needs to be dropped out of the limelight, maybe get some game time in the cups.
I can't work out if it's narcissism, incompetence or stupidity.
Player must look at him and probably think I can run this guy.
Worst thing about it, is his positional sense and anticipation is really really poor, which are not physical attributes they are tactical and mental.
He needs to be dropped out of the limelight, maybe get some game time in the cups.
It wasn't that long ago that people were saying the very same in the McTominay thread. In fact the majority were putting him in teams below the ones you suggested.
I'm not saying Maguire is good enough for the team, he's definitely overtaking Varane and Martinez and time soon but he's definitely a player I'd want in the squad.
Don't really understand how some think he's not at fault for the second goal. He lost the ball far up front, that's true. But he's not an attacking player - if he loses it, there's one man missing behind to defend the counter. Especially since he lost it in a central area and while dribbling towards his own goal. And it was a stupid dribbling to begin with. On top, he was far too passive when Havertz took his shot. Maguire defended an already defended area in which there wasn't even an opponent. So much that Shaw had to abandon his to pressure Havertz.
I think it's clear that the whole memefication of him goes too far and people should be more critical of it but he has far too many brain farts. I don't know if I ever saw a footballer who has such a collection of blunders. Even if he is decent in some areas, this overshadows every quality he has by far.
I think it's clear that the whole memefication of him goes too far and people should be more critical of it but he has far too many brain farts. I don't know if I ever saw a footballer who has such a collection of blunders. Even if he is decent in some areas, this overshadows every quality he has by far.
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