To be honest he has been the worst of our players so far, our captain and 80 million defender. What happens to these players when they come to United?
But...Ole?Any player with any talent get it coached out of them after a few months.
We wanted him before Ole was even managerIt was quite apparent when we went after him that he isn't worth what was demanded. But Ole wanted him so we paid 80m.
No we didn't. In fact we basically sacked the last manager over itWe wanted him before Ole was even manager
No we didn't. In fact we basically sacked the last manager over it
I cant believe he dragged shaw back stopping his clearance for the equaliser.
That infamous interview Ed gave, didn't he say he vetoed the Maguire deal? He wasn't talking about the club's scout he was talking about JoseNo Maguire wasn't who he wanted (he has said so himself), it was Skriniar, Maguire was the club scouts choice.
He was sacked because he didn't get anyone and called the club out
Yes i remember Leicester wanted 75m the year before and we walked awayThat infamous interview Ed gave, didn't he say he vetoed the Maguire deal? He wasn't talking about the club's scout he was talking about Jose
Maguire vs Mbappe and Neymar...Comments I made in his performance thread last season could literally be transposed to here and be as relevant as they were then.
He's out of his depth and the CL is going to be absolutely brutal for him, and us.
That infamous interview Ed gave, didn't he say he vetoed the Maguire deal? He wasn't talking about the club's scout he was talking about Jose
No Maguire wasn't who he wanted (he has said so himself), it was Skriniar, Maguire was the club scouts choice.
He was sacked because he didn't get anyone and called the club out
It was Maguire. There were several options for CB we went through this summer but Maguire was obviously the top one of them, the rest were Boateng and Toby..etc. We refused to pay 60m for him as we thought it's not worth it. We then had a disastrous season in terms of defense and leaking goals, so we changed our opinion and decided to bring him.
I didn't say we didn't go in for him, Im saying who was Jose target, we already know Jose and the club scouts didn't agree.
Before the summer Jose personally scouted Nicola Milenkovic and was also said to have wanted Skriniar (who we were briefly linked to but Inter told us to do one) and Koulibally later we were then linked with Maguire. He was not Jose first choice but its clear he was a club target since we went back the following summer (after going for Koulibally, and De Ligt)
Talks about Maguire never progressed beyond the outline stage because, with no need to sell and secure in the knowledge the England man had four years left on his contract, Leicester were pushing the price upwards, to the level Liverpool paid for Virgil van Dijk.
For a man with no Champions League experience and still relatively new to the Premier League, United did not think entering the market at that level was wise.
As one club source said: "We ended up in a situation where if we had done a deal, we would have been swapping our fifth best central defender for another fifth best central defender."
It's baffling because non professionals on this forum pointed out a lot of these weaknesses yet scouts and whomever else was in involved thought he was good enough.
This was the brief Woodward did after the market ended.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45133827
Nothing about Skriniar. The names mentioned were Maguire, Boateng, Toby and finally Mina. That's what's written about Maguire.
We obviously thought he's not worth it back then, no CL experience and money similar to VVD so backed off. Nothing in this indicates the club himself was treating him like a target, but more like we didn't even see he's that worthy to go in a deep negotiation.
The rest mentioned here were Boateng, Toby and Mina as I said, whom can't be anything but plan B, C and D. 2 much older defenders and a sub player at Barca or something. Probably these are the ones who fill in the category of such quote :
So I firmly believe the club wasn't interested in bringing Maguire at all after the disastrous season from defensive perspective we have had, they looked around and though Maguire might be actually the best we can get.
And then paid 80m for him 12 months later? No this was a brief by Woodward to save face and cover his arse
He was rubbish in the World CupNever rated him at Leicester, never rated him for England. We got fleeced by Leicester
How in the hell he was bought at that price is beyond my comprehensionHe was rubbish in the World Cup
More than likely Woodward lied to save his arseWell we're stupid. You can't say we're not.
Yeah. He gave it on merits he achieved at an entirely different level, but I get Ole he wanted to build something solid quickly and starting with the backline, having a CB coming in for 80m he should be able to step right into the team as a captain. It's a risk, but it's a sink or swim situation.. sadly for us Maguire just froze.Putting aside his price or his performances, being awful or world class, only one thing buffles me, is Ole giving him a captains armband. He did feck all for the club to earn it, i mean, looking at the past and what some defenders had to do, to win first before they could even get a sniff for it, what the actual feck, worst part Ole gave him, he should understand more than anyone else.
One can't help but think that his idiocy in Greece is contributing, but then again, why would it: there are no fans around to give him banter or pressure over it.
Am really not sure what kind of mindset he was in at start of this game. He is meant to be our defensive rock, organiser, and failsafe; let alone the team captain. But that catalogue of errors for Spurs 1st goal set the mood for the defence he leads for the next 20 minutes. I cant believe he is this shit. Baffling.
Koulibali was touted around for £80m. Varane would cost similar. Such high cost players have to perform on the big stage, or at least be faultless.
But watching these super elite centre backs in last 24 hours, it’s very clear that Maguire and Lindelöf are far better at actual defending than many of our fans give them credit. The bullcrap agenda against them has to stop.
neither is natural as ball playing defenders, such as Rio, VVD or Kompany, but we have only just started playing that way and i think they will both dramatically improve on this next season.
Woodward did that on the say so off a club scout who some believe was Marcel Bout. But the structure at the club is such that the manager has led the recruitment and Ole in tandem with Phelan went ahead and signed Maguire. The scouts have had little say on the direction of recruitment and until that changes repeat offences are highly likely. Our scouts work to a strategy for the academy and all players bought are ones that fit the profile.That infamous interview Ed gave, didn't he say he vetoed the Maguire deal? He wasn't talking about the club's scout he was talking about Jose
Not at all. He has been very good for us many times. Today he was also abhorrent.You sure you have not got a bullcrap agenda against him?
Key point in bold.First goal was stupid, but the second goal was also amateur. He fouled Kane, he just stepped away to allow Kane to take the freekick. What the hell? Even at lowest level of competition football, coaches would have taught you to keep your opponent to take a quick free kick. Wait until someone come to take your place before heading back to your position.
People would talk about later mistakes of other players, but these 2 big mistakes lost us the game from comfortable position. You would expect more from your captain, and most expensive defender in the world.