Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

golden_blunder said:
Doesn’t have to, just be someone he likes who pushes them forward.
not all players want to leave
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Very much doubt that. If that’s the case why would he have a problem with Conte?

They compete for top 4 and he scores enough goals. All you are tampering with is playing style which doesn’t effect how he plays. More the others around him.

Eitherway a new manager effecting his decision makes no sense. He either wants to stay and win nothing major or leave and win major trophies.
 
This extremely injury prone player has played the second most minutes in the top 5 leagues this season, with 3985 minutes.

No prize for guessing who's no 1.
 
The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that Kane is the right option. Cheaper (just), much less risk, and will allow us to immediately compete for big trophies.

We should then use the next 2-3 seasons to scour the globe for the next upcoming striker prospects and get a couple of them in young and relatively cheap to develop them, get them some loan experience and then integrate them in a few seasons as the next main strikers.

We shouldn't need to spend huge to replace Kane if we're smart about it. In the meantime we'll have a top class reliable goalscorer and creator.

Osimhen is a risk. I'm not 100% convinced he'll be the roaring success in the prem that everyone seems to assume he'll be.
 
Mainoldo said:
Very much doubt that. If that’s the case why would he have a problem with Conte?

They compete for top 4 and he scores enough goals. All you are tampering with is playing style which doesn’t effect how he plays. More the others around him.

Eitherway a new manager effecting his decision makes no sense. He either wants to stay and win nothing major or leave and win major trophies.
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Of course it does, it changes the whole atmosphere around a club. It probably feels very toxic around spurs right now but if say Poch was to rejoin then things would look very different. Off course a manager makes a difference
 
I have changed my opinion, I think he would suit us more than Osimhen. These last few matches have made me realize how important is to have possession players and you can’t keep playing this basketball approach. We have several players in our front 6 like Rashford, Bruno, Fred and Casemiro who are careless on the ball and it’s hurting our ability to have a sustained pressure on the other teams. Kane will help in that aspect as his hold up play, first touch and passing is very good. We can’t afford another player in the team with poor touches and giving the ball away.

With Eriksen, Kane and FDJ hopefully as part of front 6. We will be better in possession next season.
 
golden_blunder said:
Of course it does, it changes the whole atmosphere around a club. It probably feels very toxic around spurs right now but if say Poch was to rejoin then things would look very different. Off course a manager makes a difference
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It’s also going to be a toxic place if your a winner.

They’re not going to leapfrog Us City and Arsenal. Then I’m pretty confident Liverpool will get it right before them. So what is success if it’s not mediocrity?
 
Mainoldo said:
He literally tried to force a move for titles two summers ago. What are you talking about.
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Him signing a 6 year contract in 2018 kind of tells you everything you need to now. He commites himself to nothingness being completely aware of Spurs and Levy. Was moronic then, and moronic now. That is, if you are really hungry to win trophies.

Not a bad thing, maybe his loyalty is greater.

Up until this day, an extension seems not to be ruled out either, wouldn't surprise me.

He handled the whole City transfer as a tit as well btw.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Him signing a 6 year contract in 2018 kind of tells you everything you need to now. He commites himself to nothingness being completely aware of Spurs and Levy. Was moronic then, and moronic now. That is, if you are really hungry to win trophies.

Not a bad thing, maybe his loyalty is greater.

Up until this day, an extension seems not to be ruled out either, wouldn't surprise me.

He handled the whole City transfer as a tit as well btw.
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I dont think that is the reason. He signed the contract for the improvement in money. Kane thought he and Levy had 'an gentlemans agreement' but must have forgotten that Levy isnt a gentleman when it comes to doing business and selling players :lol: The players have the power. They sign a new contract for improved finance but they could go on a strike the next week and usually that will force a transfer. It just doesnt work at Levy.. atleast not for Kane this time.
 
Mainoldo said:
It’s also going to be a toxic place if your a winner.

They’re not going to leapfrog Us City and Arsenal. Then I’m pretty confident Liverpool will get it right before them. So what is success if it’s not mediocrity?
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What if he just wants to stay where he is, happy to be a spurs legend? Like LeTissier at Southampton, happy to be the big fish in a smaller pond.
there is every chance of him signing an extension, I wouldn’t assume that he wants to leave
 
Happy to make an offer, but we need to be clever this summer. We cannot wait til the end of the window to bring a CF, that wastes a month or more of the season for them to gel and get up to speed.

I do think Kane will leave, but Levy will (sensibly?) hold out for as long as possible. But looking around, we're the best placed 'bigger' club for him to go to, especially given he's such an England favourite. Given the contract situation, he should be available for Lewandowski money, we just might have to wait til very late in the window.

So we'd need at least one other CF purchase, who comes in the day the window opens. Hopefully a significantly younger, high-potential striker that doesn't cost a fortune. He will be better than Weghorst regardless.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Him signing a 6 year contract in 2018 kind of tells you everything you need to now. He commites himself to nothingness being completely aware of Spurs and Levy. Was moronic then, and moronic now. That is, if you are really hungry to win trophies.

Not a bad thing, maybe his loyalty is greater.

Up until this day, an extension seems not to be ruled out either, wouldn't surprise me.

He handled the whole City transfer as a tit as well btw.
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Players do it all the time. Us normal average folks call it a pay rise. It’s the risk they take.

Look at Caicedo is he a numpty? He will probably move in the summer but for his loyalty and good efforts they have given him a pay rise not to mentions whoever he goes to next also cant low ball him because of the low contract he was previously on at Brighton.

It‘s not always apples and oranges. Spurs was in a different position at the time.
 
golden_blunder said:
What if he just wants to stay where he is, happy to be a spurs legend? Like LeTissier at Southampton, happy to be the big fish in a smaller pond.
there is every chance of him signing an extension, I wouldn’t assume that he wants to leave
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LeTissier was a talented footballer whilst also even at that time very unique.

Kane is a world class striker that can play for any top team. It’s very different. Maybe Totti is a better example but you can miss your boot. I’m sure there was a point Totti was up for a new challenge.
 
Mainoldo said:
LeTissier was a talented footballer whilst also even at that time very unique.

Kane is a world class striker that can play for any top team. It’s very different. Maybe Totti is a better example but you can miss your boot. I’m sure there was a point Totti was up for a new challenge.
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But he didn’t, just as I am saying there remains a possibility that Kane signs a new contract
 
Mainoldo said:
Players do it all the time. Us normal average folks call it a pay rise. It’s the risk they take.

Look at Caicedo is he a numpty? He will probably move in the summer but for his loyalty and good efforts they have given him a pay rise not to mentions whoever he goes to next also cant low ball him because of the low contract he was previously on at Brighton.

It‘s not always apples and oranges. Spurs was in a different position at the time.
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No, it was a conscious decision he made back then and every one could figure what was going to happen, also back then.

Caicedo is a young player, and Brighton isn't Spurs, nor is their chairman Levy.

Signing a huge 6 year contract literally priced him out of a move for the next 5/6 years, which is exactly what has happened. If he wanted a pay rise, he could either leave or sign a shorter contract.

There's nothing wrong with that choice, but he'd be very silly if he couldn't have foreseen this. That makes me question how hungry he really was / is for trophies.

Same for players like Zaha etc. Caicedo is also playing a risky game.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
That’s what I don’t understand. Why would anyone pay 100m (or even 60m) for him with just a year left on his contract? Just get a promising alternative and then sign him for free the following year to have two decent CFs like all top teams do. I’d rather us be smart than desperate as if every transfer / summer is do or die.
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Well - because if we don't sign him - someone else will. And there is not a single striker in the world who would guarantee as many goals as Kane. Not Osimhen - noone. Kane will score 20-25 goals - no doubt about it. The only problem is his age. And if we sign a striker who dont hit it off right away, we are in serious problems. If we sign Kane, him and Rashford will get 40 or so league goals if they stay fit.
 
AjaxCunian said:
No, it was a conscious decision he made back then and every one could figure what was going to happen, also back then.

Caicedo is a young player, and Brighton isn't Spurs, nor is their chairman Levy.

Signing a huge 6 year contract literally priced him out of a move for the next 5/6 years, which is exactly what has happened. If he wanted a pay rise, he could either leave or sign a shorter contract.

There's nothing wrong with that choice, but he'd be very silly if he couldn't have foreseen this. That makes me question how hungry he really was / is for trophies.

Same for players like Zaha etc. Caicedo is also playing a risky game.
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Modric
Bale
Kyle Walker
Even add Berbatov if you want.

Levy’s a hard bs but players leave and non of them had to run down their contract.

Caicedo will get sold but in the meantime like you said he’s young and the money was needed. He could get injured between now and the summer and the bigger move might not happen.
 
golden_blunder said:
What if he just wants to stay where he is, happy to be a spurs legend? Like LeTissier at Southampton, happy to be the big fish in a smaller pond.
there is every chance of him signing an extension, I wouldn’t assume that he wants to leave
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He has tried to leave before so staying isn't the be-all-end-all for him + he's already a Spurs legend, doesn't mean he will move but he's obviously open to it which Letissier never was as far as I can recall
 
lysglimt said:
Well - because if we don't sign him - someone else will. And there is not a single striker in the world who would guarantee as many goals as Kane. Not Osimhen - noone. Kane will score 20-25 goals - no doubt about it. The only problem is his age. And if we sign a striker who dont hit it off right away, we are in serious problems. If we sign Kane, him and Rashford will get 40 or so league goals if they stay fit.
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Don't you fear Osimhen going elsewhere too who has yet to reach his prime. I will admit to being intrigued by Kane and no doubt his passing and playmaking is a different level to other forwards.
 
Is this Osimhen’s debut great season or has he been good consistently through seasons?
 
croadyman said:
Don't you fear Osimhen going elsewhere too who has yet to reach his prime. I will admit to being intrigued by Kane and no doubt his passing and playmaking is a different level to other forwards.
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Let’s be honest the striker market is rubbish. So is he that good our are the alternatives at his profile just poor?

If we miss out I’m sure they’ll be better options with the new crop.
 
golden_blunder said:
But he didn’t, just as I am saying there remains a possibility that Kane signs a new contract
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This has to be negligible though. Kane himself told us two years ago that he had an agreement to leave. It seems fairly clear that his understanding of that agreement was very different to Levy’s.

What’s changed since the interview in 2021? Spurs have been through several managers, have had no success, Levy is still there and the squad is probably worse. Nothing has happened that will have remotely changed Kane’s mind. All the indications are that he is just biding his time, waiting to leave.

My view is that the prospect of him signing a new contract with Spurs is less than 5%. I don’t see any logical basis for a belief that he will re-sign.
 
Doracle said:
This has to be negligible though. Kane himself told us two years ago that he had an agreement to leave. It seems fairly clear that his understanding of that agreement was very different to Levy’s.

What’s changed since the interview in 2021? Spurs have been through several managers, have had no success, Levy is still there and the squad is probably worse. Nothing has happened that will have remotely changed Kane’s mind. All the indications are that he is just biding his time, waiting to leave.

My view is that the prospect of him signing a new contract with Spurs is less than 5%. I don’t see any logical basis for a belief that he will re-sign.
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If Levy managed to get a ‘marquee’ managerial appointment (Naglesmann or Poch say) then I can very much see him being hoodwinked into extending! He’s not the sharpest tool in the box after all!
 
Doracle said:
This has to be negligible though. Kane himself told us two years ago that he had an agreement to leave. It seems fairly clear that his understanding of that agreement was very different to Levy’s.

What’s changed since the interview in 2021? Spurs have been through several managers, have had no success, Levy is still there and the squad is probably worse. Nothing has happened that will have remotely changed Kane’s mind. All the indications are that he is just biding his time, waiting to leave.

My view is that the prospect of him signing a new contract with Spurs is less than 5%. I don’t see any logical basis for a belief that he will re-sign.
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He’s leaving and if we finish the season how we expect I’m sure everyone deep down knows he’s coming here.

He can’t go anywhere else in England and he’s not going abroad. All this talk of him wanting to stay is just him playing the game. I don’t expect the rumours to proper kick in until the end of the season.
 
Doracle said:
This has to be negligible though. Kane himself told us two years ago that he had an agreement to leave. It seems fairly clear that his understanding of that agreement was very different to Levy’s.

What’s changed since the interview in 2021? Spurs have been through several managers, have had no success, Levy is still there and the squad is probably worse. Nothing has happened that will have remotely changed Kane’s mind. All the indications are that he is just biding his time, waiting to leave.

My view is that the prospect of him signing a new contract with Spurs is less than 5%. I don’t see any logical basis for a belief that he will re-sign.
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2 years ago he had a chance to go to the champions. That chance has long gone.
it’s like when StevieG almost went to Chelsea. It just didn’t come up again afterwards. I see no reason why it’s assumed he will definitely leave.
time will tell, but in my opinion he will still be a spurs player next season
 
Mainoldo said:
He’s leaving and if we finish the season how we expect I’m sure everyone deep down knows he’s coming here.

He can’t go anywhere else in England and he’s not going abroad. All this talk of him wanting to stay is just him playing the game. I don’t expect the rumours to proper kick in until the end of the season.
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See you’ve taken it even a step further, not only assuming he’s leaving, but now assuming he’s coming to United. “Everyone deep down”. What a load of nonsense
 
Thiagoal said:
If Levy managed to get a ‘marquee’ managerial appointment (Naglesmann or Poch say) then I can very much see him being hoodwinked into extending! He’s not the sharpest tool in the box after all!
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He would probably be more likely to stick around next season in that scenario to see how it goes, but no chance that in itself will convince him to re-sign. They’d have to have a great 23/24 to persuade him - and that’s high risk for Spurs as they’ll then get nothing. The most likely scenario is he leaves this summer, so Spurs can use the money to reinvest.
 
golden_blunder said:
See you’ve taken it even a step further, not only assuming he’s leaving, but now assuming he’s coming to United. “Everyone deep down”. What a load of nonsense
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We shall see in the summer. See if it’s a load of nonsense then. But you’ll probably say it’s a lucky guess.

But my reasons:

He wants to win things
He wants to break Shearer’s record
He can’t go Arsenal (rivalry), Chelsea (rivalry), Liverpool (Nunez and no money for a striker), City (Haaland)

If he’s leaving he’s only coming here and guess who needs a striker.
 
I think Kane will go up a level here if he comes. He's committed to Spurs no doubt as he supports them. But imagine how he'd play if he actually had a chance at winning trophies
 
Mainoldo said:
We shall see in the summer. See if it’s a load of nonsense then. But you’ll probably say it’s a lucky guess.

But my reasons:

He wants to win things
He wants to break Shearer’s record
He can’t go Arsenal (rivalry), Chelsea (rivalry), Liverpool (Nunez and no money for a striker), City (Haaland)

If he’s leaving he’s only coming here and guess who needs a striker.
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Why can’t he go to arsenal or Chelsea (if he’s leaving)? Sol Campbell dud it
 
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