Why use many words when few words do trick?
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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Why home though? I thought football in England only exists since 1992? I am sure I saw a game in Germany before that.
Brevity can't be buy
No idea why...but for some reason I want Harry to do well at Bayern.
Assist and a Goal in his first start! Good Lad
Assist and a Goal in his first start! Good Lad
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They invented football. Everything that was before or still happens in other countries is so far away from English standards of football that it is insulting to even call whatever they are/were doing there by the same name. Which is probably why English fans are so angry at other leagues all the time.
Maybe it is time to find a new name for English football to distinguish it from the poor attempts of other countries to imitate it. 'Soccer' maybe?
This sounds a bit butt-hurt tbh. I'm not English but tbf the PL is way better than the Bundes. And Kane would do great there not because he's English but because he's top quality. He's among the best three #9 in the world atm. Imo most fans around the world would agree with all that.
He will get a winner's medal after all. Nice for him.
Could this turn out to be serious problem for him? Not being able to concentrate properly, because he's not used to loud noises during games?
I think he'll struggle to lift trophies, his arms must be piss weak from a lack of lifting cups. I wouldn't be surprised if he has to has Tuchel lift his glass at Oktoberfest
That's actually another valid concern.
Maybe, but luckily for him the standard is so much poorer that he should still score plenty even with the distraction.
He carried Tottenham for years. His arms should be fine.
That was on his back though, I hope they had him lifting wheels of cheese to get his arms ready
Yeah he deserves a bit of success
To be fair, at Bremen with Bayern’s away support is a good mixture.
It's just funny that people whose tactical nous usually goes no further than "you'll never score if you don't shoot" suddenly turn into tactical football analysts bemoaning all the space Bundesliga teams apparently leave open when they watch a few highlights from a game that ended 4:0
It gets even funnier when you think about the fact that the success of the EPL those fans are so proud of right now is primarily based on tactical innovations by Bundesliga and La Liga coaches. They probably would have made fun of Mainz' high line when Klopp was a coach there as well, claiming it would never work in the England Was anyone "bemoaning" it? Just seemed like a statement.It's just funny that people whose tactical nous usually goes no further than "you'll never score if you don't shoot" suddenly turn into tactical football analysts bemoaning all the space Bundesliga teams apparently leave open when they watch a few highlights from a game that ended 4:0
If Kane gets more it will be because he's playing in a stronger team. Same way Haaland got more at City vs playing at Dortmund
Haaland Lewandowski Aubameyang the real strikers from Bundesliga matched out outdid their BL performance when they left
While EPL exports like Cancelo Mane and Hazard were major flops
Lads the Bundesliga thread and german football is turd threads didn't go anywhere, keep your jigonistic football arguments contained in there, thanks!
True but also because he’s in a more open league compared to ours.
How did Sancho, Werner and Havertz do?
The disrespect for the Bundesliga is wrong but honestly trying to gauge leagues by transfers in that way is just a bad metric because literally all signings are hit or miss whether it's between 2 leagues or even signings from the same league.
+1 it's annoying how every thread about a BL player turns into this debate.
Going back to Kane, though he wasn't as involved in attack as he was back at Spurs, he fact that he scored off that chance would be an encouraging sign for Bayern because that's exactly what they missed in big games last season.
A deflected goal, misplaced passes and just a few touches and he gets already hailed as the new messiah
The assist was great though I give him that.
No chance he won’t score at least 30 this season.
The assist was great though I give him that.
No chance he won’t score at least 30 this season.
Werner depends on his speed and has very poor finish even when he was in Bundesliga.
Harvetz basically had one full season of pro football before he was signed for big money
Almost every transfer to United have been bad to disappointing in recent times while city gets more out of their transfers even those from Bundesliga.
Maybe its not the players as much as it's the team Maguire Martial Sancho Antony DvB Schneidelin Di Maria Pogba Lukaku Mhikitaryan all from different leagues similar outputs
So we can pick Maguire Schneiderlin and Lukaku as examples why buying from EPL is a terrible idea because of the PL tax
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Calm down, no one called him messiah.
So a bunch of excuses about any signing that disproves what you were saying? Ah okay.
You could also point to endless signings between Premier League clubs that have been great.
Man City is buying and enjoying their Bundesliga products, if your team isn't then look inwards
The last time we lost a point in Bremen was 2008/09. Müller was not in the team then. So scoring in Bremen for sure does not tell how much goals Kane will score until the end of the season.
Kagawa, Sancho, Mhkitaryan, Werner, Havertz.....need I go on
Most of City's signings turn out successful including Ake, Grealish, Mahrez, Walker and Stones.
Do their players doing well say anything about the Portuguese league? The Argintinian? Spanish? Italian?
No, don't talk such waffle. You got caught out talking nonsense, tried to make a bunch of excuses and have wittled your argument down to "yeah well City are good".
How signings perform from ANY league is a complete toss up and says very little about the quality of that league when you are dealing with the top few leagues.
It is fair to say that 100% of the Bundesliga players United bought were underperforming although Hargreaves at least wasn't horrible until some team doctors started to treat him...
Others like Gündogan, Özil, de Bruyne, Song, Baba, Firminho, de Jong, Dzeko did quite allright i hear.
So it's the fault of the Bundesliga that United couldn't get anything right this past decade?
Kagawa and Mhkitaryan each had one (!) solid to good season in Germany. Sancho just didn't care anymore once he got the bag. They all failed at United due to different reasons. It certainly wasn't because they came from the Bundesliga though, since the vast majority of United's signings this past decade suddenly turned to shit (Pogba, Lukaku, di Maria, Maguire etc.) regardless of which league they came from.
Werner was always vastly overrated and only functions ok in a pure counter-setup, which is why he did fine at Leipzig but works nowhere else (not for Chelsea, not for the German national team). Nearly every football expert that watched German football warned Chelsea back then. Even then he only scored 9 BL goals after his Leipzig return last year. He is washed.
Havertz was totally played out of position at Chelsea. He isn't a striker. He is a number ten, an attacking midfielder.
Now let's take a look at the good players that left the Bundesliga and weren't used in a ridiculous way:
Haaland - scores more in the PL than he did in the BL
Lewandowski - immediately La Liga top scorer by quite some margin
Son - scores more in Tottenham than he did for Leverkusen
Firmino - scored more in Liverpool than he did for Hoffenheim
Aubameyang - scored just as well in the PL than he did in the BL
De Bruyne - I don't need to explain this one, right?
Need i go on?
Kane is the player we needed the most this summer. He would have fit in like a glove at number 9.
Sad that Levy simply did not want to sell to an English club.
Sad that Levy simply did not want to sell to an English club.
Doubt Kane would have been interested anyway. He wanted a team that would guarantee titles and a shot at Champion's League, which is not Manchester United, unfortunately.
Firmino played for the second best team ffs.
Lewandowski went to Barca ffs.
Halaand is the exception.
Honestly, the Bundesliga is weak, any disagreement is a cope.
Jadon Sancho: 0.66 —> 0.28, 58% decrease.
Kai Havertz: 0.51 —> 0.43, 16% decrease.
Luka Jović: 0.72 —> 0.65, 10% decrease, with all the asterisks.
Christian Pulisic: 0.48 —> 0.49, 2% increase(!)
Timo Werner: 0.81 —> 0.61, 25% decrease.
Joelinton: 0.57 —> 0.27, 53% decrease.
Leon Bailey: 0.55 —> 45% decrease
Can we stop with the Kane and united talk? No chance levy would've sold, not even sure Kane wanted to come here. Of the Cfs who moved this summer we got one of the top overall options and did the best we could