Hargreaves vs. Carrick, Feadingseagulls vs. Noodle, Chief (Bayern Fan!) vs. Logic
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don't forget Chelsea at home, he was fecking superb in that game.
You'd have to say he has been under par this season, in comparison to last, though. He needs a long run in the team really. I think breaking his arm had an affect on his form aswell.
A laugh smiley from the fool who claimed Hargreaves was to blame for the first goal we conceeded in that game. Which was clearly Brown's fault as replays showed. Amongst other rubbish you promoted. Go on, laugh away. Don't let that stop you, laughing you empty head off.
I called Hargreaves world class ages ago in a moment of madness. From what I can remember, I was trying to prove a point about the England midfield, and exaggerated to prove this point.
No. We played away with Carrick not playing as our holding midfielder. That certainly escaped you.
Bullshit. He, Anderson and Ronaldo were our best players that day.
But that's Hargreaves fault because he is a playmker eh
He didn't ahve to be . He was excellent. You have this childish idea you have to be the best player on pitch to do your job well.
Against 2 fecking weak sides. Plus the 10 ten men of ChelseaLike the others he has had to adapt to much more competion in that area from last season nobody is a certain starter also like Scholes, Fletcher and Hargreaves has had injury.
I have nothing against Hargreaves but when idiots cannot see Carricks defensive ability then you have to wonder about their judgment
This is bollocks.
I called you on this at the time too. Hargreaves just lets Adebayor run past him for the first goal, its a fecking ludicris proposition to shift the blame from Hargreaves, and shows your lack of footballing knowledge right up.
You're on a real rant here, and its mostly crap.
Watch the bloody game again and tell me who was our holding midfield player?
Obviously i agree.
Ferguson would want to just pick one starter from the five, and say, thats my man, and play him till the end of the season. This constant rotation in midfield is a small bit unneccessary in my eyes, Carrick is our best midfileder, so just play him, and then horses for courses afther than i'd say.
You provided the video link for that goal and I proved you dead wrong with that same video. That Brown was clearly at fault Don't be so forgetfull
Bullshit. He, Anderson and Ronaldo were our best players that day.
wrong
But that's Hargreaves fault because he is a playmker eh
He didn't ahve to be . He was excellent. You have this childish idea you have to be the best player on pitch to do your job well.
you claim excellent status that usually means being the or one of the best on pitch
You have no idea about football have you!!!
Fletcher was the defensive player and Carrick the playmaker. Just like last weekend. That was fecking obvious. You watch it again and learn.
Clearly not. But you're missing the point. The point isn't who's better than who, or if Hargreaves is a good player or not. The point is what mix of players makes Man Utd great - it's a team game after all.So is Carrick now >>> Keane ???
Based on this season and last, I can't see how Hargreaves is an improvement on Carrick. Maybe he's a better player man for man, maybe he's not. But we seem to perform better with Carrick on the pitch compared to Hargreaves. I can't remember one single really good performance by us with Hargreaves on the pitch, whereas there have been many with Carrick.
What else can I do but laugh at your blatant lack of knowledge on the game? Your constant defense of hargreaves is now reaching desperate heights. The simple fact of the matter is going by performances this season hargreaves should be our fifth choice midfielder in the pecking order. He simply offers nothing to our game. Correct me if I'm wrong but for me defensive midfielders are supposed to protect the back four using their positional sense and tackling ability but hargreaves in lacking in both departments esp on the positional front.He simply chases and harries any opposition player who dares cross over the halfway line with the ball and one pass and he's out of position. He's no where near the same standard of footballer as carrick and never will be. Now come on and reply with your usual "your a fool" or "hargreaves did this against madrid" shite which you usually cough up.
Don't be so forgetfull
no, you said:
"I guess its just people see things different ways"
or some such shite. You belong on Jeremy Kyle, just can't tell the truth from one minute to the next, can you?
Says the idiot who claims Carrick wasn't shit vs Lille, Celtic, Copenhagen and Milan away from home in the champions league.
You are a true moronI've asked this question many times and I'm yet to get a convincing answer, I wonder why , anyway, I'll ask it again...
Why is Hargreaves better then Carrick ?
, anyway, I'll ask it again...Why is Hargreaves better then Carrick ?
No, Fletcher got up and down tackling where needs be, Carrick played his usual sitting role for the majority of the game.
It'd be easier to pick out any of your posts i agree with, if they existed, there's simply too much shite falling from that mouth of yours tonight.
Hello everyone, what's going down tonight?
Bit of discussion about whether Hargreaves is amazing or terrible, is it?
Bit of discussion about whether Hargreaves is amazing or terrible, is it?
What else is there ?
Sex?
I have watched the game tonight for the third time, neither player played particular as a dm but Carrick made more tackles, interceptions and was in our own area more than fletch .........
For feck sake how does this thread have so many posts?
I wish!
By the way Pletch, just to keep you up to date, the debate has now moved on from whether Hargreaves is amazing or terrible, to, is he better or worse then Carrick...
Felcterh got up and down to win teh ball .The defnsive midifielder's job. Carrick stayed in midfield playmaking. It isn't rocket science. Arsenay play the same way with Fabregas and Flamini. With Flamini often arriving in the box ahead of Cesc
The day an exagerating air head like you, who thinks Wes Brown is a god, agrees with me, is the day I'll know I've really been talking shit.
This season
Carrick playing --- 11 2 2
Hargreaves ------ 8 2 4
not conclusive but makes you think a bit or should
Carrick playing --- 11 2 2
Hargreaves ------ 8 2 4
not conclusive but makes you think a bit or should
Can't believe we have had a 17 page thread on Hargreaves again.
We've had 14 multi-page threads about Hargreaves already.
He has to be the most discussed player on the internet.
Owen Hargreaves
We've had 14 multi-page threads about Hargreaves already.
He has to be the most discussed player on the internet.
Owen Hargreaves
RICTR
nobody agree's with you, you feckin gobshite.
Good luck, I mean that.
Not when you think it so when i's you who actually knows nothing instead.
That is why you are an internet gimp and Fergie is the Manchester United manager,
It's not shit, stupid. It's stone cold fact. He performed against Madrid. VS Milan to. Things Carrick can't do. His a much betetr player tha you can accept. That is why men like Hitzfeld, Fergie and Beckenbauer rate him. You just get more desparate by the hour really. Trying to make yourself look clever when you've proven how foolish you are beyond any reasonable doubt
He's useless, Fergie goes mental once in a while with an idea and Owen Hargreaves was one, he'll end up at right back or out of the club within a couple of seasons.
Eh ?
I'm laughing at the list of Hargreaves threads because it is funny, I'm not saying anyone is sad, FFS, I've been a part of a lot of them!
.........I've asked this question many times and I'm yet to get a convincing answer, I wonder why
Why is Hargreaves better then Carrick ?
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