Well, excuse me but it was not the same, Ronaldinho was the problem that year he stopped playing and started going clubbing and destroying the atmosphere in the team..Moreover, when one team win everything it is very difficult to motivate them to win everything again the next year, that is why no team have won the Champions League two years in a row, even not Barca...What is more, you can absolutely say the same about Rijkaard when he took the job because Real were dominating like hell and then after Martino, Luis Enrique took the job and won the treble. In 2012-2013 Barcelona became champions and were unlucky to be eliminated by Chelsea in the semi finals of the Champions League even without a head coach. I repeat without a head coach. There are only two-three differences between Guardiola's and Rijkaard teams- Dani Alves, Yaya Toure and Henry and then Pedro and Villa, the core of that team was absolutely the same. This Barca team are playing together and are taught how to play together since a very early age. That is how their academy works. His tactical decisions most of the time, especially when he decided to change that 4-3-3 the Barcelona team always used and have been using all the time ( even in their academy) he started his downfall. The tactical decisions were totally strange to say the least. That continued with his Bayern team that was thrashing everything on their way and then were totally outplayed and outsmarted in most of the important games they had to play in his reign. That is just my opinion on the matter.
Guardiola's Press Conference - So what do you think?
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Well, excuse me but it was not the same, Ronaldinho was the problem that year he stopped playing and started going clubbing and destroying the atmosphere in the team..Moreover, when one team win everything it is very difficult to motivate them to win everything again the next year, that is why no team have won the Champions League two years in a row, even not Barca...What is more, you can absolutely say the same about Rijkaard when he took the job because Real were dominating like hell and then after Martino, Luis Enrique took the job and won the treble. In 2012-2013 Barcelona became champions and were unlucky to be eliminated by Chelsea in the semi finals of the Champions League even without a head coach. I repeat without a head coach. There are only two-three differences between Guardiola's and Rijkaard teams- Dani Alves, Yaya Toure and Henry and then Pedro and Villa, the core of that team was absolutely the same. This Barca team are playing together and are taught how to play together since a very early age. That is how their academy works. His tactical decisions most of the time, especially when he decided to change that 4-3-3 the Barcelona team always used and have been using all the time ( even in their academy) he started his downfall. The tactical decisions were totally strange to say the least. That continued with his Bayern team that was thrashing everything on their way and then were totally outplayed and outsmarted in most of the important games they had to play in his reign. That is just my opinion on the matter.
There are some seriously stupid posts on here comparing Guardiola to a potato or run-of-the-mill managers.
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Wow. Two really poor posts on the bounce. Hattrick is on here.
Fine interview, not exciting if that's what people were looking for. He knows it's going to be tough like for everyone else so understandably he is being cautious. I don't doubt he will be able to bring in a distinct style to city which will help them in the long run if managed properly.
I've only seen bits and pieces of it, but it sounded like a typical Guardiola press conference to me, albeit in English. The whole style, tone of voice, mildly equivocal, saying nothing very much. He used to sound like that at Barcelona, when he was doing routine press conferences.
It's his standard press persona, only broken in times of stress and even then usually with a kind of deliberate edge that makes it sound like he doesn't want to give away too many free sound bites.
He looks a different figure when you see him supervising training sessions or nagging from the touch line. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts as the season goes on, Mourinho's presence in town will probably act as a good diversion/shield for the next few months.
It's his standard press persona, only broken in times of stress and even then usually with a kind of deliberate edge that makes it sound like he doesn't want to give away too many free sound bites.
He looks a different figure when you see him supervising training sessions or nagging from the touch line. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts as the season goes on, Mourinho's presence in town will probably act as a good diversion/shield for the next few months.
What do I think? I think he's a bald twat who will probably do something stupid like play Fernandinho at CB and have everyone fawn over how great he is tactically.
I don't know why people think Pep and Jose hate each other. They are friends lol
Maybe so. I don't particularly hope Guardiola fails spectacularly, to be honest. I'm quite interested to see what he does with City. My gut reaction was just one of disappointment. If things are going well then I think he'll be as committed and obsessive as always but I genuinely think there's the possibility that if things don't go well he'll lose interest in his project because he has no interest in the team. Perhaps when he brings in a few of his own players he'll feel a bit more attached to his team.
Mentions Chelsea and City as the best academies.. hilarious. I honestly think City have told him he can never mention United when praising aspects of other clubs, they are that small time.
In all honestly I'm more worried about City splashing the cash and buying ready made world class players than I am of Pep. It's no secret I always wanted Mourinho over Pep, because, well... I don't rate him. Of course that could bite me in the ass and he could dominate England but I don't see that happening. He'll find it tough and I would not be a single bit shocked if he only stayed 3 years and won nothing.
In all honestly I'm more worried about City splashing the cash and buying ready made world class players than I am of Pep. It's no secret I always wanted Mourinho over Pep, because, well... I don't rate him. Of course that could bite me in the ass and he could dominate England but I don't see that happening. He'll find it tough and I would not be a single bit shocked if he only stayed 3 years and won nothing.
I really can't see that happening, not with City determined to give him all the money and freedom to shape the club to his liking. If he shouldn't like the team they have, well, then he'll hire and fire players until he likes it. He lives for football and coaching, he absolutely won't just turn his back in disappointment, not as long as he has the means at his disposal to make the necessary changes.
I heard a lot of English sounding words with little or no meaning behind them, so tend to agree with your post - he did well at spending 30 mins saying practically nothing.
@Slavkov do you have experience managing a football team?
His dislike for press conferences should be common knowledge by now.
You're talking about Pep Guardiola here.. You do know he's won trophies right?
He's a fraud now he's moved to City.
Why are they stupid posts??? Sure he may not be a run-of-the-mill manager but like he said himself it was easy with Barca having the best player in the world and he was competing in a 2, poss 3 team league. Bayern was ready made for him even though he bombed in the CL. He acknowledged that he may not get the 6 game winning streaks in the PL and this is completely new to him. We had big aspirations for van Gaal and he royally fecked up! You've got no basis to assume that the same could not happen to Guardiola. At least he's been modest enough not to fall for his own hype and admit that this is a new challenge and he is venturing into unknown territory. He's made no bold claims other than to try and build a team so fair play to him.
All the City fans think that the league is a given now and they will dominate for the next 3 years. Fact is we now have the best manager in the world at present, period. Guardiola's status will be defined and cemented during/after his time with City one way or the other. He may just fail to deliver...then again he may well be the next best thing since sliced bread!
So it's a bit harsh slating people that have an opinion either way!
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You do realise that City's success is inextricably linked to Guardiola's??What an odd statement...so you're hoping City does well which by default would be at the expense of United?
The idea is that he does fail as spectacularly as possible! Have you not read Bluemoon recently?? They're really wishing us all the best over there!
Not quite.
The core of Guardiola's team was the midfield three of Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta. Probably the best midfield three there has been. Rijkaard didn't have that. Busquets was promoted by Guardiola, and Iniesta mostly played wide on a front three under Rijkaard. Xavi mostly played alongside Deco and Toure in a midfield three. There was no Xavi and Iniesta, certaintly not in the way we came to see them in tandem, until Guardiola put them together and played them ahead of a defensive midfielder. Also, Yaya and Henry were already there when Pep took over. He brought in Keita, who was a fairly big part of Pep's team in the first two years. Pep also brought Pique home, who was a fairly unknown entity at the time having only made a handful of appearances for us, and became a mainstay in the centre of defence (and still is!), whilst shipping out Deco, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Edmilson, and Thuram left due to retirement.
Quite huge changes there. The core of the team really was very different almost immediately under Pep. The team that we beat 1-0 on aggregate in the CL semis in 2008 was very different to the team that walked through us in the CL final in 2009.
I think Pep did a so-so job at Bayern, where he should have done a lot better, but IMO the job he did at Barca has become quite underrated, as if he just inherited a really great team and had them winning with no input, when really he dismantled Rijkaard's team, got rid of the big names, met with some criticism at the time, and replaced them with, at that time, fairly unknown entities.
I wasn't talking about Pep there. I was just saying that I couldn't give two shites about whether a manager is nice or not. Moyes was nice - but an awful manager.
You're talking about Pep Guardiola here.. You do know he's won trophies right?
Was he? He seems like a monumental dickhead to me.
I've never been Guardiola's biggest fan. So far he has only ever succeeded when he has easily had the best squad. There's nothing to say he wouldn't have succeeded anyway, but he's still unproven to me. I don't think he will be as successful at City as he was at other clubs.
Plus I hate cheats.
Plus I hate cheats.
Excuse me mate, but I totally, totally disagree with you...Where are the huge changes? Pique, Busquets and Danny Alves? Iniesta was a starter under Rijkaard but he used Toure and Marquez instead of Busquets. As far as Iniesta on the wing is concerned he won the world cup and European championship playing there and he has very often played on the wing under Guardiola.
So you are trying to tell me tha Valdes, Puyol, Abidal, Toure, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Etoo, Henry is not a core and adding Pique, Busquets and Alves changed the team completely??? Come on, mate...Really?
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It's just lazy , uninformed stereotypes tp dismiss the job Pep did at Barca.
I reckon there is a tint of bitterness there too as we were the biggest victims to that Barca side.
Yeah, just like Sacchi's legacy was forever tarnished after his disastrous post-milan stints, right?
Aguero is injury prone. Can't afford to go into a season aiming to compete on all fronts with potentially Bony and Iheanacho as the only real strikers. Bony has been awful for City, and I doubt Guardiola has any substantial plans for him. If Aguero is fit, we're fine, but it's the same regarding Kompany, and it's at the stage where we have to plan as if they will not always be available.
Some would have it so, yes. Difference here is that Sacchi also led Italy to a WC final.
No one is going to say that Guardiola isn't a great coach, who will be in contention as a top 5-10 managers of all time once he's done, but an unsuccessful spell in England will do him no favors in moving up that ladder.
Don't rate him much, while playing possession football with best squad in the country is almost a guaranteed success, this will be his biggest test in physically much more demanding league, EPL is different animal and I think he will struggle in his first season, he should be able to make top4 comfortably though..
Pique and Alves coming in is half a new back four. Then a completely different midfield three. Iniesta was a starter under Rijkaard as a forward in a totally different role. Guardiola changed that, paired him with Xavi and placed them ahead of Busquets/Keita. I'm not saying he was poor on the wing, but he became even better centrally and paired with Xavi. That was a huge change because they went on to be unstoppable in tandem for club and country.
You really think there was hardly any difference between the side we beat in the 08 semis and the side who taught us a lesson in the 09 final? Getting rid of big name players like Deco and Ronaldinho and bringing in unknown entities isn't considered big changes?
Please go for a check up, or something.Of course those teams were not completely the same but the core was completely the same. 8 of the players were the same. Their best players were the same. There is no point discussing this any further. If you do not think that the players I mentioned are the backbone of that Barca team then that is your opinion...
By the way about the game in Rome, it was completely even in my opinion. They taught us a lesson in 2011 when they easily brushed us aside not in 2009...
Well they won La Liga and were totally unlucky to be eliminated by Chelsea in the semifinal of the Champions League without a coach, didn't they? Only time will show whether I am right or not and whether he is a tactical genius but he has failed tactically most of the time in my opinion.
By the way, are you underestimating my managerial abilities?
:P :P :PRemember how the press destroyed Villas Boas
Why don't you like him? Because he's managing City?
They used to be, but things have definitely gotten frosty since the Inter-Barcelona semi final and then obviously the Real-Barca rivalry. Pretty much any book you read on Pep will give his opinion that he thinks the things Mourinho has said and done have buried their previous relationship.
I think he'll guide City to a higher league finish than Mou will United.
Cheats?
Same. I think so as well. People are really underestimating him because of the teams he has managed in this past.
Time has already shown you're wrong given he's one of football's most successful managers and you're Slavkov person from redcafe.Well they won La Liga and were totally unlucky to be eliminated by Chelsea in the semifinal of the Champions League without a coach, didn't they? Only time will show whether I am right or not and whether he is a tactical genius but he has failed tactically most of the time in my opinion.
By the way, are you underestimating my managerial abilities?