Greenwood (Out) - signs for Getafe on loan
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Assuming that club is the first choice.
If he's indifferent between say, Roma and Lazio, it comes down to whichever club has a better offer to ourselves. Hypothetically speaking of course.
I very much doubt he’ll be indifferent as to where he goes - he’s got a young family and they’re having to move at really short notice.
I’d imagine like any person would be he’ll be very invested as to where he ends up next.
Of course it was selecting the main points that made it a terrible plan. Have united said anything to suggest it was well thought out? I don't see anything to counter the leaked points. Consultation with internal and external stakeholders was lacking and the decision was made by the executives without proper consultation. Not exactly a conspiracy or crazy narrative.
Saudi or Italy is my guess.
The Italians wont care too much and they love a good deal.
The Italians wont care too much and they love a good deal.
Watch the leaked video. He’s gonna struggle to hit that level again without months of training and playing. It’s a big IF he can ever hit that level again. 2 years out of a 22 year olds development is huge
That video was pretty much just him kicking a ball about without much urgency or even effort - I don't think a lot should be surmised from it
To set a good example
That's probably got a lot more to do with him not playing any football for 18 months than the Saudis being the arbiters of morality. Take a look at their human rights record.
What do you think sports washing is all about?
It's a lot easier to do that by indoctrinating a set of fans like Newcastle's than it is to disassociate the Saudi Premier League from Saudi Arabia and its government.
Do you really think someone who is clearly obsessed with football didn't practice all this time? I don't. He is lacking match fitness, but his skills on the ball, technique, general fitness, etc, would be just fine. Mason didn't just sit around moping. Surely not...
Which leaked vid, by the way? I could be wrong of course
The 2 years out think isn't a huge deal IMO. He's young, it's not as bad as getting a serious injury which young players come back from all the time. Doesn't take that long to pick yourself up. Biggest things will be mental and physical fitness which just takes a few months
I'll bet my mortgage he has a different definition of "sportswashing" from you
They’d have had a hostile reaction from me if he’d been brought back, but I’m not expecting them to pay me compensation.
Haha what a joke. Concerned about public image? He’d increase viewership just like a certain other accused but acquitted rapist. That’s what they care about
Forget about the money, Social Media holds Greenwood's transfer, so any fee the demand will be the proceeds are forwarded to domestic violence charities.
I mentioned in the other thread but it's more relevant here, what happens if we are unable to find an agreement with another club that suits all parties in the short time left before the window shuts?
Say that was the case, heading into the final few hours of the window, does the club still have links with certain clubs where we send out players as part of their development? Royal Antwerp was it? Could we send him to one of those?
Say that was the case, heading into the final few hours of the window, does the club still have links with certain clubs where we send out players as part of their development? Royal Antwerp was it? Could we send him to one of those?
Sounds like they've got the same sort of advisors as the chap over in Russia if they think the perception of their league is positive.
Feck off
One of them has several ballon d ors and titles. The other was a promising youth prospect. Huge difference.
Also date rape versus date rape plus beating the sht out of that person and having video/audio footage make for an even more different scenario.
Just yesterday there was a human rights watch report that the Saudi border guards were shooting Ethiopian migrants for fun and forcing young men to rape the women at gunpoint but yes, signing Greenwood will be the issue that spoils their image.
Newsflash!! That horse has long bolted the barn lads.
I agree. Weren’t they reports coming out saying he’s been training and even some suggested he was training at Carrington on his own.
Sounds like they've got the same sort of advisors as the chap over in Russia if they think the perception of their league is positive.
Maybe a matter of potentially inviting a spotlight to issues you're already perceived as bad with.
They’ll shoot dead migrants coming over from Yemen including women and children but they won’t have Greenwood. Go figure
Think it would send a great message and probably go a long way to fix their public image
Aside from the fact he didn’t net once in about 20 shots
I have my doubts on what level he could reach too. He was always a player who relied much more on natural talent than hard work and determination. I remember it was common for the cafe to constantly state him going missing in second halves. Generally because his work rate was poor. To be lazy and also be out for so long isn’t great for his progress.
I’m sure 2 years out of football at such a crucial development stage in his career is going to have hampered him heavily. We’ll have to see whether he can reach that level and how soon. Some players even peak in their younger years.
He wasn’t allowed to train with the team, so yes he could train alone but it’s not the same as someone pushing you, having competition, learning tactically from the new coaches etc etc. he has a LOT to catch up on
Tbh I doubt there was even a slight possibility of him going there and they are probably aware so put out a somewhat ironic statement that will probably bring more attention to their issues than it would had they said nothing.
If you're looking to rebuild your career at 22, the last place you are going is a footballing graveyard like Saudi, especially given his current personal life situation.
Yeah somehow doubt that’s happening. Least so when charges were dropped. But alas, I don’t think the club should be donating anything.
The best solution. Just to get him away now. Hopefully he understands going abroad is his best bet.
On the training front, will be now return to training with the first team until his situation is resolved?
From a football perspective it might even be a good idea to have him play in some reserve fixtures or behind closed doors matches if any were scheduled. Would give potential suitors an idea of where he was.
Doubt he is interested in SA, too far away to move with a baby and too far away from their families. Italy, France or even Turkey more likely.
How have you come to the conclusion that Saudi is a ‘footballing graveyard’?!
In a few years time we might be able to look back and say that that is what has transpired, but their project has only really started in the last 3 months and there’s been quite a range of ages in the players being transferred.
Because 90% of the players in the league would barely get in a league one team.
People should really let it go. No, he is not going to train or play with us even if he is not loaned/sold this window, neither is he going to play for us in future.
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