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Greenwood and Foden kicked out of England squad for bringing girls into hotel room
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Its nothing to do with having a private life ( Or not ) at all.
They broke the Quarantine rules that apply in Iceland, and the rules that apply when being part of the England team.
Either follow the rules of the host country and the team you are playing for, or stay at home, they had a choice,
it was not an optional condition of them being selected.
Other visitors arriving in Iceland are fined for breaking Quarantine
Most of the recent infections in Iceland are because of foreign visitors breaking quarantine, and they have recently tightened up rules to combat the problem.
Those rules also apply to all England players irrespective of age, they are not a special case, although some seem to think they are.
Iceland is rightly annoyed that England players deliberately took no notice of the rules designed to protect the Icelandic people.
At the same time, I can't help wondering why the England team management did not have more in place to prevent something like this
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Seriously?
The vast majority of the ones who don't think they need to be tarred and feathered over this still acknowledge that it was dumb. Just don't see the need to take it to the extremes and make it out to be more than what it is
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I havent seen many say what they did wasnt wrong, just that its understandable too. If they were both veteran first team players who aren't in their hormone driven prime Id expect many would come down a lot harder on them for their decision making.
The biggest thing is the breaking of Covid rules. Endangering people's health and breaking another country's rules is the big part. Not the girls part based on what we know so far, but human nature is flawed - especially at their age.
Wow, lots of over the top reaction, people make mistakes and unless you live a perfect life then it's best to move on
I listened again and its foden who says what you coming for and Mason replies saying what do you think, then she mimicks him"What are you coming to the hotel for?"
"What do you think?"
Maybe they are a bit thick.
Have you ever written a post, without telling another poster what to do?
Where is this?
Christ. And Foden is the older one with a kid
Were they sharing a room?
They of course should be blamed. But this is poor management. Why are they not sharing a room with elder players.
They of course should be blamed. But this is poor management. Why are they not sharing a room with elder players.
Iceland.
wait, did the fact that he's 18 means he's immune to covid?
he wasn’t forced to go. Jeez man, there’s rules for the group, there’s rules for the country. They were both broken. Not everything is about fighting for freedom
Yeah and if everyone had always followed the rules to the book we'd still have the first rules ever made up.
May I also suggest that it's those who want to regulate young peoples sexual lives who have an issue?
The more I think about the more I think this is bull shit. We would have seen players thrown out of national team setups left right and center if meeting someone outside the bubble resulted in that.
Maguire....oh wait nice one southgate.
Which branch?
Exhibitionism? Group sex (if the other guy joins in eventually)? Who knows.
But the question for me would rather be, why in the name of Satan and his mother would anyone remotely famous document...anything that is potentially controversial? Or engage in any activity that is obviously/blatantly being documented by someone else? Just...why?
In some cases you might actually want a "sex tape" to be "leaked" - because it will boost your fame. I get that. But in cases like this, the answer is pretty obvious, isn't it? The people involved are feckin' idiots. And there you have it.
They engage in default behaviour (documenting whatever you do, or letting someone else document it, on your/their phone - which is what people do these days) - and fail to stop behaving per default when it matters (the sign of an idiot).
I did say I have no problem with them being sent home now. It's the moralising and calling for them to get some sort of ban or even dropped by their clubs that I find disturbing. Let them pay whatever fine Iceland has set for their offense and let it be.
You probably don't need game if you're a footballer.
Thats why Mason's gone to Iceland
She's gorgeous to be fair. Worth it!
I think you are confusing two very different issues. No one has ever tried to 'regulate' footballers' sex lives. What they do after games and training n their not so private lives is up to them and they take the consequences of that. However these two were working and as such are bound by professional responsibility. They knew that the moment they entered the international fray with a boss like Southgate that everything is up for scrutiny. Now it's not the worst crime they could have committed and given that a kid similar in age was arrested for shooting another kid in Suffolk, it should put their transgression into perspective. But please for heaven's sake stop making them out to be some sort of victims to puritanical forces.
Picture please?
Our players doesn't seem to get any good headlines these days.
Greenwood should apologise to whole squad. Absolute unprofessional. He gets the chance and ruins it. I would ban him and Foden at least 2-3 games.
Greenwood should apologise to whole squad. Absolute unprofessional. He gets the chance and ruins it. I would ban him and Foden at least 2-3 games.
Other retail outlets are open too
Stupid. I’m surprised the girls went with them knowing the rules. Four adults, zero common sense.
Wait you think that you can do whatever you want in your work place? And you think that people aren't sanctioned when they don't follow rules?
Yes. Have you ever written a post that didn't drip with sanctimonious horseshit? No don't answer that, we both know what the answer is.
It's truly incredible that's what you managed to get from that post. Bravo.
Very poor judgement from them. As someone stated above, I cannot understand why two young lads are not sharing a room with a more experienced player. I am sure Ole will be fuming. Just reflects poorly on the lad. Utd need to make sure he is not getting distracted from his football.
It'll be longer given the media shit storm it's created in this climate. Piers Morgan and the media in general are having a fecking field day, and sadly Southgate will be pressured into giving them a wider suspension than 2-3 games.
Sent back down to the U21s would not be a bad start. See how they react.
you're so easy to rile
I can. I only need to make sure that I bring in enough € every month. Outside of that I need to follow the law, pay my taxes and take care of myself. There is no need to join a cult for me. And if someone wanted to hire me for the same activity he couldn't pay me enough to agree not to feck around.
Life's too short for that nonsense.
There's only really one question that needs to be asked on this. What was Sterling doing while all this was happening?
Theres a video on the last page
Hey pot, this is kettle.you're so easy to rile
I understand people saying they are young and made a mistake, but at the same time it's a serious lack of professionalism and extremely foolish. They are away with the national team (first call ups I think?) for a period of a week or so, there is a worldwide pandemic and they are asked to stick to guidelines for the well being of not only themselves, but literally everyone else too. They are 18 and 20, not 14/15.
Not arsed at all about them having lasses into their room, couldn't care less about that. But to go against strict guidelines in place for everyone and knowing what has been going on in the world for 6 months now, it really is stupid to do this. Can imagine both the England set up and United being really disappointed in both of them.
Not arsed at all about them having lasses into their room, couldn't care less about that. But to go against strict guidelines in place for everyone and knowing what has been going on in the world for 6 months now, it really is stupid to do this. Can imagine both the England set up and United being really disappointed in both of them.
Absolutely right.
When you think back on stories of united players on England duty under Ferguson too, where supposedly they had their own united bubble, makes you wonder about Greenwood going shagging with a city opponent.
Weird but that isn’t even close to what the issue here is for me. Young people breaking COVID social distancing I totally understand. My problem is they’re at work. The only reason games are allowed is because of the strict social bubbles that must be adhered to. They will have been told about all this when called up. However, they appear to think they are above these rules at 18/20 years old on their first call up. They have broken these rules putting the game at risk and showing a total lack of discipline and professionalism. They rightly won’t be called back up for quite some time. The fact it was sex related whilst making it somewhat amusing is completely irrelevant to what’s gone on. I couldn’t care less about their personal lives, they can cheat on who they want, that isn’t the issue here. Their sense of entitlement and respect for authority is the problem.
She ain't even that hot.