Now I would like what you are smoking. They are both up there.
Grealish To City? | City bid £100M
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Grealish's abilty to retain possession would be worth a fourtne to most teams. Although, City don't need him for that.
You cannot seriously think martial has shown close to what sanches has.
Why not? He has shown in the biggest games he cant be handled. He is just inconsistent as feck. City, Liverpool, PSG(even though he let us down he was the best player). He will come good around better players that can get him the ball. He is unplayable when on form.
De Bruyne is quite clearly an attacking midfielder - no.10, advanced no.8 in a three, third function midfielder, etc. He excelled alongside David Silva but that particular setup was rather unique in the way that both adopted very advanced positions simultaneously, and was certainly closer to his 'best' position than a deeper midfield role (in a double pivot/ holder or deeper no.8 in a three). On the rare occasion I've seen him play deeper (a few times for Belgium), he has been quite poor - at least for the calibre of player that he is overall. Pogba, Yaya Toure and Fabregas are examples of players, like De Bruyne, ideally deployed as attacking midfielders, but who, unlike De Bruyne, I have seen excel deeper in midfield. Sure, the sample size is tiny - but the point of my post is that De Bruyne plays in an area which absolutely suits Grealish, and that that is an advanced midfield role and not in a position that someone would typically describe as 'centre midfield'.
I find it surprising you haven't seen Grealish playing in the middle at all. He was deployed there against United at Old Trafford as well as in some other games round about that time last season, though he did predominantly play off the left. He was also used centrally in the remaining games once he returned from injury near the season's end. And he played in a deeper role alongside McGinn - in a more conventional version of the De Bruyne/ David Silva setup - when Villa won their promotion to the Premier League and then for a limited time in their first season back in the top flight - and then as a no.10 periodically throughout that season as well.
On form seems out of reality when these performances are very rare, and he's far more often too poor to justify being on the pitch.
Without this last season he has had 2 great seasons, 2 good seasons and 1 bad. His best ever season has come when he played solely as a striker. This is also under a United side that was still in transition with different coaches. Him having an average game is usually considered poor. Its either Martial was unplayable or poor on the forum. Great players have average games all the time. His stats are also good when you consider that he's played most of his time on the left wing considering he is a striker. I will agree with you that when he is poor I cant justify him being on the pitch but right now with the way United is setup Im not ditching martial especially when we dont have better options for his role. I don't consider cavani in his 30s or greenwood as better forwards leading the line for us. Get haaland in and we can sell him.
Youve been spamming this thread with similar posts like twice a day now. We get it you don't rate him.
Has nothing to do with having good players around him to give him the ball. Last season he had Bruno Rashford Shaw and Pogba. He doesn't make runs for the ball. He doesn't try to find space for the ball. He doesn't make runs to open up possibilities for others.
I can agree with that. Hopefully we finish the transfer window strongly.
Martial had one purple patch outside of his debut season
Sancho has consistently put in great performances over multiple seasons
Imagine wanting to start Martial up top over an actual striker in Cavani, even though the blokes waiting for his bus pass to come in any day now. Madness.
What thread am I in!
Don't you know? You're in the "Caf in hysterics over Grealish to City" thread.
The perfect title for this thread
Becks is still more handsome to this day.
Grealish looks like if Becks had started taking Meth at 15. Not saying that's a bad look though.
He's giving the people what they want - leg photos
This thread feels weird, it is like a bunch of angry, jealous nerds venting because the school bully jerk bagged the new hot girl 
Could be but I think Levy will be relieved if that's the case. 100m is just not enough and lessens the pressure that he should be allowed to leave.
This thread feels weird, it is like a bunch of angry, jealous nerds venting because the school bully jerk bagged the new hot girl
Indeed, except the hot girl isn't actually as hot as everyone makes out and the school bully jerk is still a jerk at the end of the day.
We bagged Sancho, who has higher ceiling, so I don't understand why are people still fixated to this signing.
Man if this is the reaction to city signing grealish I can't imagine the tantrums when Kane goes there too.
I’m not sure who such people might be but it would be pretty easy to ignore them.
Hope so but I doubt it. In any case, they are quite different in style. It would have been great to have got Grealish as well but signing Sancho probably ended any interest we had in Grealish.
Very exciting to get Sancho all the same.
For me the reasons why City want him and why he might be worth 100m to them.
- He is English, City are short on their quota.
- City, for all their quality don't have enough players that can take on a man one one one, especially through the middle. They have Sterling and Mahrez, that's it. We have Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Pogba and Greenwood.
- They haven't found a consistent replacement for David Silva
- Bernardo SIlva wants to leave.
11 league goals does not do too much in a push for the title... I was referring to an earlier comment when I said he an Martial are not out-and-out goal scorers like, say Shearer or Kane. Most pundits and commentators agree he was not at his best (that might be down to the injury)
But hey, red-tinted glasses: yeh, the state of this forum
where Pogba is? Where Rashford won't be until at least October... plus bringing real depth to our squad, which let us down time and again last season
I think Jack Grealish is a fantastic player, but do I think he is a player that will take City to another level? No.
I would place him somewhere around Mahrez-level, perhaps a slightly more "rounded", mature player than Phil Foden, but not necessarily a 'better' player. Definitely a better technical player than Sterling, but a more effective player, in terms of pure output? Arguably, no.
It does strike me, not as an "odd" signing, but a signing they are making because they CAN, rather than because they have a desperate NEED
I would place him somewhere around Mahrez-level, perhaps a slightly more "rounded", mature player than Phil Foden, but not necessarily a 'better' player. Definitely a better technical player than Sterling, but a more effective player, in terms of pure output? Arguably, no.
It does strike me, not as an "odd" signing, but a signing they are making because they CAN, rather than because they have a desperate NEED
I think Villa staying up on the last day a couple of years ago killed our hopes of getting Grealish. I think it probably would have meant no Bruno, rather than no Sancho.
well the facts of his goal scoring say very different. in three seasons he's failed to get into double figures and only twice scored more than 10 in the league (although obviously last season he was injured a lot). Goals per match is 0.33. Plus has gone missing in so many games. not good enough for the United I love. to push for the title we need someone who can be relied upon to score 20+ league goals. my maths in crap admittedly but last time we won the league, RvP scored 26 goals in 38 league games, a strike rate of close to 1.5. even in a poor season in got a goal pretty much every two games. my point: martial is there (in the first instance) to score goals... he doesn't
Could be so. I imagine he would have been available for £not-a-lot back then.
ITK's on Twitter are saying he's going to stay at Villa...
Then lesser game minutes and more time on the bench for Sterling and Mahrez. And not talking about Ferran Torres. City, they definitely have the money.
Gareth Southgate prefer Sterling over. Pep didnt preferred Sterling and didnt use him much last season. So maybe Sterling out and Grealish in. It just show different taste and cup of tea. Depend on which players different managers prefer.
Gareth Southgate prefer Sterling over. Pep didnt preferred Sterling and didnt use him much last season. So maybe Sterling out and Grealish in. It just show different taste and cup of tea. Depend on which players different managers prefer.
if this signing means City don't get Kane, then i'm all for it.
We had our golden chance before he penned his extension, I guess we wont know for sure why club hierarchy went with an unwanted(?) VdB paying a big and so far wasteful ~€40m when Grealish was to be had for ~€75m and rumoured to be coaches favored target and supposedly very eager to join us. Hindsight is 20/20 and "Buy nice or buy twice" rings true for this one.
No matter what, it will be interesting to see how the promise of Grealish develops if he goes to City (). He is a player that has some star quality of the old 90s to 00s days of the game and would have added something extra to us.
(Hopefully VdB will play a bigger role for us and prove his sceptics wrong, it would alleviate some of the buyers remorse arising from that transfer window.)
No matter what, it will be interesting to see how the promise of Grealish develops if he goes to City (
). He is a player that has some star quality of the old 90s to 00s days of the game and would have added something extra to us.(Hopefully VdB will play a bigger role for us and prove his sceptics wrong, it would alleviate some of the buyers remorse arising from that transfer window.)
That sounds very promising.
We already signed Bruno in January of that year, I think it was Bruno in January or wait for summer for Grealish and we picked Bruno.
Big part of me would rather they get Kane rather than be main choice for Haaland next year at a third of the price. Kane doesn't have that long left as a truly top player IMO, all the injuries take their toll and we already see him regularly drop his level if he's overplayed. Get a decline out of him, De Bruyne shortly after Fernandinho and Aguero leave and possibly Pep all around the same time and it has the makings of a much bigger collapse than if they had Grealish and Haaland for the next 5 years.
Id rather they get Kane than grealish to be honest. Kane is needed much more but he is such a terrible investment at 150m and he is physically regressing at an alarming rate. Grealish would give bountiful years of creativity. Hopefully he stays at villa. I’ve seen some tweets that suggest he is extending his contract.
Yes I agree with this. They would have to start again. It would even be better if they sold their most direct player sterling.
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