Villa don't need to accept 100m. They're not poor at all, and Grealish is their key player, why would they bend over at the first big bid?
Grealish To City? | City bid £100M
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True, his carrying stats and touches in the opposition box stats were unreal.
Yeah, even in fbref scouting report, in most of the ball carrying metrics, his percentile is 97-99. Unreal numbers.
Think some people are in denial here. Yes, Villa have rich owners but I think when Grealish tells them he wants to go(he will), they will name their price. He is at the peak of his powers, chan e to sign for the best team in the country and a guarantee of trophies. He's not going to turn it down.
The wording of the articles I have read makes it sound like there's already an agreement between his agent and Villa. They will try to keep him bit my guess is they will fail.
The wording of the articles I have read makes it sound like there's already an agreement between his agent and Villa. They will try to keep him bit my guess is they will fail.
So City may get Kane and Grealish? Utd are going to be fecked .
If mancity/pep want him they will sign him. Pep has that pull and players wanted to play for him. Mancity will give good payment package and pep will give trophy guarantee. That's advantage for having pep like manager.
When you compare the teams they play for, it's ridiculously impressive.
Look at what we spent the 35m we got for benteke on...Rudy fecking Gestede for a start.
In last decade we've also replaced Milner with Stephen Ireland and Ashley Young with N'zogiba so compared to say Leicester we are completely hopeless replacing key players in our team.
Obviously this was different ownership and we will have some sort of strategy in place but when we came up we couldn't sign Tammy permanently so got in Wesley for 22m who was very hit and miss to put it kindly.
So think those are obvious reason for trying to keep Jack as long as possible given he's a once in a generation player for us.
They should be looking at Coutinho money bare minimum.
Yes, if Villa went down, but when they stayed up a big sale was no longer needed as they were guaranteed prem income.
If this theory stands then England has to win the euro and the upcoming world cup with Sterling, Foden, Walker, Stone, Kane, Grealish, Sancho, Rashford, Shaw, Magurie, Rice, Mount in the team. Anything less can only be considered a failure. With these players England is the super power in world soccer
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Not exactly analogous as there are a few other countries with similarly stacked squads, most notably, France.
I'm gutted he is going to City. Gutted.
He's bound to be the best transfer of the next five years. And that's in a market with Haaland, Mbappe, Sancho and Kane.
He's bound to be the best transfer of the next five years. And that's in a market with Haaland, Mbappe, Sancho and Kane.
Look at what we spent the 35m we got for benteke on...Rudy fecking Gestede for a start.
In last decade we've also replaced Milner with Stephen Ireland and Ashley Young with N'zogiba so compared to say Leicester we are completely hopeless replacing key players in our team.
Obviously this was different ownership and we will have some sort of strategy in place but when we came up we couldn't sign Tammy permanently so got in Wesley for 22m who was very hit and miss to put it kindly.
So think those are obvious reason for trying to keep Jack as long as possible given he's a once in a generation player for us.
I love watching him play man. I don’t want pep to turn him into a cross merchant and sacrifice his flair.
aren’t you guys owned by 2 billionaires? Is there pressure from jack for this move or is it just interest from City?
Exactly. They are owned by a billionaire, aren't they? And they're doing business with a state sponsor. If Pep has identified him as the way to rejuvenate the City side, they can pay over the odds, with an Emirates tax on top. I hope Villa milk Man City.
I think having just extend his contract last summer, he might just stay until he reached near 28 or something, then he will start to get desperate (having won feck all), and would desperately looking for a move by then.
You just gotta laugh at how stupid the whole situation is. A club with a countries finances is playing against single or a group of owners. That country can buy 250mil of players and not sweat at all whilst individual clubs are expected to compete?
What a broken system the FA have allowed. I for one am a fan of any team going against these broken ass clubs like City and PSG.
What a broken system the FA have allowed. I for one am a fan of any team going against these broken ass clubs like City and PSG.
Could also be a factor that Grealish is the sole creator for Villa and the players at city share responsibilities?
It is a smokescreen to get our pleasure of getting Sancho and preventing a "big day".
They have nothing, only a recorded type of young Sancho not listening to Pep and smashing one after the other in training.
So your transfer targets this summer after you fecked up CL final to full extent are Grealish and Kane? Sounds like a 300 million well planned.
They have nothing, only a recorded type of young Sancho not listening to Pep and smashing one after the other in training.
So your transfer targets this summer after you fecked up CL final to full extent are Grealish and Kane? Sounds like a 300 million well planned.
It was never a one/two-year building process. We will just need to keep soldiering on. Its always been a moving goal post.
Besides, City has shown that they cant do repeats. There is always some internal strife that stops them from winning year on year.
See, you are capable of not just nonsense. Whatever City do, it was always going to be +90 points against them going forward and winning the league. You can add Messi along those two and the position stays the same.
Let's mind our business and start challenging or just say feck them and build a proper team.
Sell Martial to Villa as part of the deal to bring Grealish to United
Ball carriers aren't usually that good with teamplay. They usually disrupt teamplay by dribbling too much and being too slow and selfish with the ball.
Faster and more efficient attacks can be achieved by just passing quickly like Bruno.
The strong ball carriers in the world are Messi and Robben and they are able to follow through with a powerful shot with high goal-conversion ratio. Eden Hazard also used to do that (Dribble and then shoot low and score).
So far, Grealish has not exhibited much of dribbling, then shoot and score so he's nowhere near the 100 mil. Based on his output, he's worth 65 mil. Given that City is rich, they can stretch to 75-80mil. Anything higher is ridiculous.
Faster and more efficient attacks can be achieved by just passing quickly like Bruno.
The strong ball carriers in the world are Messi and Robben and they are able to follow through with a powerful shot with high goal-conversion ratio. Eden Hazard also used to do that (Dribble and then shoot low and score).
So far, Grealish has not exhibited much of dribbling, then shoot and score so he's nowhere near the 100 mil. Based on his output, he's worth 65 mil. Given that City is rich, they can stretch to 75-80mil. Anything higher is ridiculous.
How will villa pay Anthoh's United salary and then some without destroying Villas wage structure?
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Difference between a negative Nancy and a realistic Reginald. Though, yes, there is negativity because this is a potentially dire situation.
He's easily the better player. Grealish is a player who will join a team and take them up a level, not only because his game improves the general play of a team as a whole, but because he has that elite mentality of never say die that rubs off on the team, too.
Grealish is the better player, but Sancho will have the bigger impact on their respective clubs (assuming both transfers went ahead).
Those prophecising the end of football need to get a grip.
Those prophecising the end of football need to get a grip.
I'd choose Sancho over Grealish this summer purely due to their age, price and injury records. Sancho is a very young healthy lad who in theory could spend his entire career with us. I also think he's got further levels to go to.
Thats not to say I don't love Grealish, because I do. Him going to City will be like them signing Augero all over again, totally sickening.
Thats not to say I don't love Grealish, because I do. Him going to City will be like them signing Augero all over again, totally sickening.
Gross. Just gross.
Thats my view. I guess the extra cash is down to Villa not needing to sell.
That elite never say die mentality of running down blind alleyways and winning fouls will take City them up a level from PL and Carabao killers, to PL and Carabao killers…? Nice.
Not only do you think Grealish is better, you think he’s easily [sic] better. Insane.
I love the revisionism on here especially from @CanadianUtd
70-80% of people on here wouldn't have paid a dime over £60m(Villa wanted £70-80m)for a player with 14 goals and assists over whole PL season for what was supposed to be improved depth over Lingard/Pereira when VDB who was available for almost half the price with CL experience was available, especially at a time when everyone here was salivating over Sancho. Heck a lot of people here said it was the right decision. It's easy to talk from hindsight cause he's proved to be a top player just like Haaland(whom a lot of people now insist now we should have bought with a release clause when the whole CAF would be lambasting Woodward like he bombed a building if Haaland left for a mere €75m)
You simply can't get all of them and in this circumstance the odds didn't favor us the moment Villa survived relegation. Time simply favored City more and guess what? It happens move on. He's a top player but Sancho is better for us and VDB in a settled team will show his worth
70-80% of people on here wouldn't have paid a dime over £60m(Villa wanted £70-80m)for a player with 14 goals and assists over whole PL season for what was supposed to be improved depth over Lingard/Pereira when VDB who was available for almost half the price with CL experience was available, especially at a time when everyone here was salivating over Sancho. Heck a lot of people here said it was the right decision. It's easy to talk from hindsight cause he's proved to be a top player just like Haaland(whom a lot of people now insist now we should have bought with a release clause when the whole CAF would be lambasting Woodward like he bombed a building if Haaland left for a mere €75m)
You simply can't get all of them and in this circumstance the odds didn't favor us the moment Villa survived relegation. Time simply favored City more and guess what? It happens move on. He's a top player but Sancho is better for us and VDB in a settled team will show his worth
Just because he's a good dribbler doesn't mean he's Saint Maximin or Zaha and dribbles at every opportunity. He's also one of the best passers in the league, but what makes him so good is that he has the intelligence to nearly always make the right decision on when to release the ball or when to move it up the pitch himself. You'll very rarely see him running into blind alleys, if ever.
The notion that he holds onto the ball too long and it a good team player is one of the most frustratingly inaccurate ones. It's the complete opposite. His chance creation stats bear that out. He has that De Bruyne/Ozil obsession with creating for his teammates. The fact that he can also dribble like Hazard on top of that is what makes him so special.
It’s less so the names. More so meant to point out how reactive the United board are. They are sluggish and are always playing catch up / it’s their approach to transfers in general.
They didn’t get Grealish last summer - what would’ve been a starting 11 talent - but they spend on a bench warmer who’ll always be behind Bruno in the pegging order. Nothing against VDB, he’s quite the player and an even better person. But in terms of what the club prioritize and need, they just splash it elsewhere as a luxury purchase when used or saved for later, can drastically help more with a starting Xl upgrade. And now as a result of that buy of VDB, we still haven’t made progress in terms of the starting team while it hinders us given less to spend overall and into the future/present.
It’s things like that which make a difference. Now whether or not Grealish specifically is sold or not, we now sit in a position where we will see a direct rival be in prime position to splash cash on a starting level talent since we’ve handicapped ourselves financially. A part from squad competition, don’t get the VDB purchase. He’s a long way out from ever being a consistent starter especially with the way we lineup...there’s not much variance in the formation the coaching staff deploy so you know there’s only going to be room for 1 sole AM.
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I don't deny our approach to transfers is annoying but it seems it's improving slowly under Ole(last summer being an anomaly hopefully)
As for Grealish specifically we had Bruno(who was proving to be a sensational signing) and Rashford(in double figures for goals and assists in the PL that season) in Grealish's best positions so where would he have started for us? The consensus at the time was we needed a starting RW(Sancho)and a better back up to Bruno/Pogba than Lingard/Pereira which is what Grealish was being targeted for not to be a starter before his price tag proved to be too expensive. Due to him numbers wise(and to some extent profile wise) proving not to be a £70-80m upgrade on Rashford/Bruno we simply went for an alternative available for half the price with CL experience for DEPTH purposes(not a starter)and despite his slow start his profile fits us far better than Lingard/Pereira and towards the end of last season he was showing his quality. He's also just 23/24 he'll get better with time
Like I said circumstances favored City because Villa pricing him out of a move gave him a year to show how good he is and if he goes there he'll go there to start for them. For us he'd have improved the team without solving a major problem(we don't have a £70-100m shaped hole in the 10 or LW role) Sancho improves us while solving our long term RW problem and a settled VDB is a solid alternative to Bruno and Pogba which is what we bought him for and wanted Grealish for something that doesn't need an exuberant fee
Agreed. Big clubs need to put up or shut up. Pay the money or look elsewhere. It’s not hard. The more quality players distributed at other teams rather than hoarded at the top teams, the better the spectacle that football as a whole can be.
I still have a sneaky feeling we’ll do a “Berba” and kidnap Grealish at the last moment and make him sign for us. Pep is a persuasive enticement, sure, but I think Grealish is a closet Utd fan.
I’d be over the moon if City went after Kane and we were able to capture Grealish.
What I don’t want is City to get Kane and Grealish to stay at villa for another season only to allow city to come back in for him next summer
What I don’t want is City to get Kane and Grealish to stay at villa for another season only to allow city to come back in for him next summer
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