Nah go on, I'm curious.
Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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I was responding to the a which had his first 28 games "in all competitions".
My mistake then
They're obvious if you've taken any notice of Chelsea's season, you don't need me to explain them, in fact you've mentioned at least one yourself in this very thread!
He's also had 3 red cards, so it appears he hasn't mellowed in his later years.
I think that Mourinho and Boehly may not gel, both extremely strong characters, used to getting their own way
Maybe Chelseas squad could do with some old-timey putting the fear of god in them.
Graham could take a que from Ron Swanson and pull a tooth out with pliers in front of the squad to symbolize strength. Or Chelsea could hire Ron Swanson. Whichever works best
Graham could take a que from Ron Swanson and pull a tooth out with pliers in front of the squad to symbolize strength. Or Chelsea could hire Ron Swanson. Whichever works best
Yeah, he is, isn't he. I would not be very surprised if it buys him a way back into managing a first-tier club again, if the circumstances align in the right way. Which isn't to say it would be a good idea.
What’s the point in comparing Arteta to Potter? Apples and oranges. Arteta didn’t have 400 players coming through the door to help with the situation, in fact he was getting rid of dickheads instead of stockpiling them.
There's a lot more availability in the managerial market than there is/has been in the striker market.
Yeah, great. I'm happy to write for the third time that I'm not actually arguing that signing Aubameyang and signing Mourinho are exactly similar situations, if that's needed. Which apparently it is.
One small problem, if/when we are next looking for a manager it would be the recruitment team, not him, making the decision.
They would need to score two goals in a game to progress against Dortmund in 90 or 120 minutes - something that they have not managed to do in 2023, even against much weaker opposition than Dortmund. With Thiago Silva out, they have also lost a key component in a fairly reliable defense.
I would not be optimistic about them going through.
If that stat doesn't get him sacked, nothing will.
I don't think Fred deserves the sack
Fred will overtake Chelsea in the next game.
Chelsea shouldnt sack him, everybody can see his body of work even before coming to England, the way his teams play football etc. On other hand if Chelsea wants just to throw players on pile and have a squad that requires managers that dont like building/developing than dunno why they hired Potter on the first place.
This is possibly the most depressing stat out of the lot. A low performing player has equal goals to a 25 man squad. Christ we have sunk low.
The idea that Potter isn’t a good manager is silly.
The idea that he’s not been abysmal at Chelsea is sillier.
I’d like to see him be given time and I think he’d be successful. Wouldn’t be saying the same if he was United manager though.
Football fans are fickle.
The idea that he’s not been abysmal at Chelsea is sillier.
I’d like to see him be given time and I think he’d be successful. Wouldn’t be saying the same if he was United manager though.
Football fans are fickle.
You have to still put points on the board through transitions and in the very first stint at any club. He’s not which in itself means not good enough so far.
That's true, and even if I personally believe he can eventually turn it around, if you keep dropping points, especially at the rate Chelsea are currently doing, then he can have no arguments about losing his job. We are currently on a 6 game winless streak, the last time we won a game of any kind was in the middle of January nearly 7 weeks ago.
Most clubs, no matter where they are in the pyramid, would sack the manager for a run like that - 2 wins in 15 and we literally aren't scoring any goals, like at all. No team in the top 4 divisions has scored less goals than us post World Cup, we are 92nd out of 92 teams for goals scored since November. We have sunken to depths the likes of which I haven't seen at Chelsea in my lifetime. Potter's current record is the worst of any Chelsea manager in the last 30-ish years.
As much as I personally like him, his position is becoming increasingly indefensible.
A good manager for Brighton yes but a good manager for a top club at least up until this point no.
A good manager at Chelsea in this period would probably struggle, but from struggling to this fiasco is a long way. No one knows if he will come good but not many managers get second chances at top clubs, once you fail miserably the first time, chances are you are gone for good. For example: Moyes, Ole, Villas Boas and many others
It's not just Potter. The squad is insanely bloated but no goals in it.
Clearlake seem actually insane.
They could have taken their time with transfers. Financial fair play limited to 5 years or not. No need to stuff the squad with potential as quick as they've done.
Clearlake seem actually insane.
They could have taken their time with transfers. Financial fair play limited to 5 years or not. No need to stuff the squad with potential as quick as they've done.
Would he survive another bad result on the weekend? Asking for a friend.
Problem is you'd think they spent too much money to be patient with Potter for a longer period of time. But who knows, maybe Boehly is going to stick with him beyond this season.
I think he’s got the ability to coach top quality footballers. Doesn’t have the clout to have ten training with the reserves though. Probably doesn’t even know which of the 30+ players he wants to keep. Probably gets no say in who’s coming in either. Odd job.
I think he’d do well enough if given a pre season. So would plenty of other managers though.
We need to do everything we can in order to keep him in his job. If it means protests, then so be it.
20 May 2019 | 8 September 2022 | 135 | 42 | 46 | 47 | 31.1 | ||
8 September 2022 | Present | 26 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 34.6 |
To be fair he does have a better record with Chelsea than Brighton so he is improving.
Viva Potter!
This is just saying same thing twice in a sentence.
I know. I was emphasising the ridiculousness of it.
You have to wonder if he was signed because he was scouted or because of the hype.
It would take a huge turn around in form and fortune for him to be a success after this start.
Is he asking for all these players or is someone above taking the scattergun approach?
Is he asking for all these players or is someone above taking the scattergun approach?
Howe > Potter.
He is promising to be fair. But with Lamps, Gerrard and now Potter, for me it's clear that promising English managers should try and gain experience at a big club in a major European league before making the jump to a bigger English club.
I dont think the size of the club was the stumbling block. Things have been chaotic there for a year now with Abramovich and most of his backroom team leaving. The churn with players is probably just the most visible part of the changes at the club.
And they've bought 20 odd players without addressing the one weakness in the team from the last 2 / 3 years. They had a good defence, keepers and full backs and a good selection of midfielders.
I'd be surprised if any of the defenders they've brought in fare as well as Rudiger or the midfielders give them as good a selection as Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante over recent years. Their forward line is weak and bloated with ill fitting parts. I think its going to be an uphill battle from midtable for anyone coming in.
Tuchel is a good coach and he was having a hard time too. Its not entirely down to Potter.
How many of their recent signings are you gutted about missing out on? How many of whats left would you pay the fees they paid for?
Potters past the point of no return. Keeping him to buy time to bring someone else in is fine but he's clearly done. I dont envy whoever comes in unless a vaguely competent striker comes in with them. They dont even need to be good, Weghorst would do a job for them.
And they've bought 20 odd players without addressing the one weakness in the team from the last 2 / 3 years. They had a good defence, keepers and full backs and a good selection of midfielders.
I'd be surprised if any of the defenders they've brought in fare as well as Rudiger or the midfielders give them as good a selection as Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante over recent years. Their forward line is weak and bloated with ill fitting parts. I think its going to be an uphill battle from midtable for anyone coming in.
Tuchel is a good coach and he was having a hard time too. Its not entirely down to Potter.
How many of their recent signings are you gutted about missing out on? How many of whats left would you pay the fees they paid for?
Potters past the point of no return. Keeping him to buy time to bring someone else in is fine but he's clearly done. I dont envy whoever comes in unless a vaguely competent striker comes in with them. They dont even need to be good, Weghorst would do a job for them.
Mourinho at PSG would be tasty. Imagine all the drama...