We are GODS.
Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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We are hopeless!
(We -> the fans here)
(We -> the fans here)
We are life itself.
We are gods bollocks
I mean we are obviously not going to get Pep or Klopp to Old Trafford, not because they wouldn’t want to but because they’ve already latched themselves onto our biggest rivals. I guarantee you at a different time both would have jumped at the chance to come to Old Trafford, though. Look at Thomas Tuchel speaking about us the other day, he may as well have come out and said “I’d love to manage this football club if the position every became available”
My point is that as a club on the global scale we are simply too massive to not be attractive to the vast majority of managers and players. We are by a distance the biggest club in England and only the likes of Madrid and Barcelona can touch us on a global scale. The Manchester United job is so attractive to a manager because having the opportunity to put Manchester United back to the very top of football, where we belong, it simply doesn’t get better than that in a managerial sense.
The club has been run horribly for far too long now, all because of the owners, as a result everything from the top down has suffered. Bad recruitment, bad scouting, bad facilities, old Trafford itself is falling down. Once we have an owner that actually cares about the club, that wants to do good for the club rather than line their own pockets it is absolutely inevitable that we will return to the top of the game.
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Good points. But where do you start and I mean by how fast do you run?
Besides what some fans believe it wouldn’t take us more than 3 transfer windows to build a team that can challenge for the UCL and that’s just based on the size of the club and the money we have. However I feel we need to rebuild our identity first.
I am Queens Boulevard.
if Talkshite are saying it, you know it's bollox
On basis of this analysis then Mouriho, Ole, Rangnick and ETH deserve another chance so ETH is still here so leave him in place.
100%
They’re not struggling at all when you consider everything. One, they’re Brighton. Two, they’ve got 31 points half way through and are in 7th. They finished 6th last year with 62 points.
Three, They won their Europa League group with much much bigger clubs in it then them. Four, They sold their midfield in the summer and have been ravaged by injuries. And lastly again, they are Brighton. Not to belittle them but I think people on here sometimes forget just how small a club they actually are and how much they’re punching above their weight.
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If we choose Potter while Flick, Zidane, Conte, Lopetegui are sitting on their asses it will be just more of the same.
Chelsea chewed him in few months, and we are in the simillar possition. Maybe even worse one (no crazy money).
And its no coincidence that our two best manager since 2013 had best CVs of all managers. UTD needs best manager available not some crazy projects. It's tough job.
Chelsea chewed him in few months, and we are in the simillar possition. Maybe even worse one (no crazy money).
And its no coincidence that our two best manager since 2013 had best CVs of all managers. UTD needs best manager available not some crazy projects. It's tough job.
I think they are a little bit. 5 of their wins have come in the first 6 games. They've got 3 wins in 14 aside from that. In those 14 injuries have impacted them but they've also suffered ay times from what we have always pinpointed at Brighton during the Potter and De Zerbi years where they rack up xG and fail to convert and then strangely for De Zerbi who improved attacking output, they've been fairly bereft at times attacking wise too. I think they've been guilty of trying to walk it too much in some of those games. Definitely done very well to achieve that EL place though. Expect them to get back on track at some point but they've hit a bit of a bump recently which you can point at injuries etc. in some respect but not all.
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Trying to get Graham Potter would honestly just be admitting that we are going to be mediocre going forward. Every decision like that just solidifies us in that 3rd to 6th range.
This guy has already shown he couldn't handle the Chelsea job.
No other top club would give him a job now.
No other top club would give him a job now.
Oh lord
Great to wake up to reports of us being interested in Graham Potter and signing the dregs of the Bundesliga on loan, all on the same day. What a time to be a United fan.
Our club survived David Moyes. We’d be fine.
That's where we've been for years. It has already solidified
That's an equally uninspiring list of names.
All this talk of a football reshuffle and the appointment of the best in the business leading to appointing Potter would be classic United.
Potter under a proper footballing structure at Ostersund, Swansea and Brighton was a good manager, we've seen what he can do given the proper resources.
At Chelsea he didn't have that, he had a scatter gun approach and failed to piece it all together, similar to Poch right now.
If INEOs sorta the backend of the club out, and Potter gets to work with a functional football decision making team behind him there's every chance it would work, but then also there's every chance with that structure EtH will improve.
At Chelsea he didn't have that, he had a scatter gun approach and failed to piece it all together, similar to Poch right now.
If INEOs sorta the backend of the club out, and Potter gets to work with a functional football decision making team behind him there's every chance it would work, but then also there's every chance with that structure EtH will improve.
Yeah their form has been lopsided but even though it was only three wins in fourteen there weren’t many defeats in there and they’ve only actually lost to clubs in the top six and Chelsea, no silly defeats really. I actually think their issue hasn’t been so much goalscoring. They’ve scored 38, which is more than Arsenal and only five less than Liverpool and Villa. I think their defending has been what’s stopped them being higher up the league. They’ve let in 33. Chop and change their defence every week and their keeper even.
True. I still feel like a Graham Potter hiring would be taking it a step further. There has a been a logic to our previous manager hires to some extent. Mourinho and LVG were proven winners, Ole was a continuation of his interim role which had been positive, and ETH was an interesting prospect with good results with Ajax and a seemingly clear philosophy.
Potter is different in that he is proven mediocrity. He has shown he can't cut it at a club with high expectations.
Feel as though that’s harsh
Look at Poch at Chelsea now, he’s struggling too. Chelsea is another beast all together
I think it's a bit of both, albeit you're right that their defence has been letting them down recently more so. De Zerbi has from what I can recall made some interesting tactical decisions (some forced by injury but also some experimentation I imagine). I don't think defeats matter too much if you convert some of those draws to wins. Drawing is what Potter used to do a lot and would frustrate many fans.
I don't think it means De Zerbi is a bad manager, far from it, I just think that as always on the caf the energy was skewed far too much one way and far too much another way i.e Potter isn't as bad as was made out and De Zerbi isn't as good as was made out. I still think De Zerbi is better overall but Potter is a good manager still.
Maybe that's because Pocchetino is also crap.
Seriously though, look at Potter's managerial record and tell me why he is even being considered for the Man Utd job (besides the fact that he is English and somewhat young). His win rate with Brighton was 31%, and at Chelsea it was 39%. If that's who we are going for, we might as well stick with ETH, in my opinion.
Has anyone seen Potter and Southgate in the same place at the same time?
Please, don't disrespect Potter like that
Hmmm No.
Just feel the need to post as a dissenting voice. He isn’t good enough and doesn’t have the personality to manage a big club. Please, please don’t do this Jim!
It would honestly be a real kick in the balls and stamp out any hope of Ineos making a difference. Absolutely gutting if true.
It would honestly be a real kick in the balls and stamp out any hope of Ineos making a difference. Absolutely gutting if true.
Potter is a much better communicator in English that's for sure. And if we are looking to have a team full of young hungry players willing to listen to instructions, this could work.
Yeah, and the added risk with us is that we'd give them even more time even if it's clear the job is too big for them, unlike Chelsea who at least got rid fairly quickly.
Gastric choice, steer clear
Would be such a bad choice. Chelsea are a bit of a mess but Potter made a pigs ear of it.
Changing tactics and formation every 5 minutes will never end well.
Changing tactics and formation every 5 minutes will never end well.
Imagine getting rid of ETH for Potter
Funny how a few bad months at a dire club like Chelsea have turned Potters reputation to shit.
If he had never have gone people would be frothing at the mouth for him
If he had never have gone people would be frothing at the mouth for him
So long as you're not bad why does this matter? How many managers have won the premier league where English is their native tongue?
Can we just focus on the first bit for now.