He's got no rizz. No thank you.
Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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Knew we are going to be linked with him as soon as Ratcliffe is in.
As interim, maybe. It can't get any worse.
As interim, maybe. It can't get any worse.
Must take issue with that.
We qualified from the group stages of the Europa League in our first ever season, and if we win tonight we top the group.
We are currently 8th in the League, 4 points off 5th, despite selling roughly £220m of players (Caicedo £100m, Cucurella £60m, Trossard £30m, MacAllister £30m) in the last 18 months including our entire central midfield.
On top of that, we have an injury struck squad of many first team regulars;
March (season)
Estupinan
Welbeck
Fati
Lamptey
Enciso
Webster
I said at the start of the season top ten in the league and reaching the knockout stages of Europa would be a good season - we’re doing great in my opinion.
I agree and even if England wouldn't be having a potential golden generation right now, I'd still want United to target elite British talent. Just this summer alone, if we got one of Kane, Rice or Bellingham we would be better off than we are currently.
I think most people that are scared by these narratives believe that we will overpay for average players.
What I said has nothing to do with what The Daily Mail writes. The man's Brexit leanings are a matter of fact. His press release was about "putting the Manchester back in Manchester United". And sure, if he plans to buy and sell on merit alone, that's fine. That is where my doubt lies, irrelevant of what any paper says.
As long as he isn't a con artist like some of our recent managers, i will be happy.
Two of the greatest.
I think plucky underdog punching above their weight is his level. Brighton suited him perfectly in the PL, he was a fool to go to Chelsea. I said similar at the time.
It was a similar story at Midgetland making waves in the Europa.
Managing an unwieldy behemoth like Chelsea/United is a totally different task, and I think it’s beyond him. He is Moyes level and United need Elite to turn thinks around.
I think you're doing okay but you've had a below par couple of months in the league I'd say with only 2 wins in your last 10 games and I'd argue that's showing signs of struggling!
Started the season excellently so it's probably the European football catching up with you a bit but we will have to see how it pans out further in the season.
Either way, Potter started last season with you well too and the revisionism of him not being a good manager or not being one of the most sought after on here is a bit weird.
I think he plans to appoint a sporting director and avoid making decisions related to our transfer policy. That's what he did at Nice after a lot of initial mistakes and it has worked out well.
Think I must be the only person who would absolutely love Potter as manager.
I don't want him, but I think he could be decent since Ineos would likely properly back him and protect him over any player, etc.
I don't see him winning a PL / CL for us, though, so why bother with him...and he doesn't seem too charismatic either, just like ten Hag. If we bin ETH let's get someone really good IMO.
Can we not?
His period at Chelsea was bizarre. Not sure he was actually that bad in terms of football played, Chelsea seemed to create tons of opportunities, they were a better watch than under Poch that's for sure.
But you simply can't get results like that, and you have to handle the media with more gravitas than that. Doesn't scream big club manager.
But you simply can't get results like that, and you have to handle the media with more gravitas than that. Doesn't scream big club manager.
It is not unreasonable to assume he would be more involved here. For one, it's Manchester United, an English club he has desired to own for some time. And second, he isn't the sole owner. Not even the majority one, in fact. No doubt the Glazers will require a degree of contending with. There were already reports from somewhat decent sources Ratcliffe has proposed a football committee consisting of himself, Brailsford, and Joel Glazer. Not exactly an outrageous proposal given the situation. That would be enough involvement to have his own biases and desires come through. And I'm personally having a difficult time imagining him disposing of Rashford and Mount, for example. More power to him if he does, but I just can't see it happening.
There isn't many great choices available. So if we go Potter I'll of course back him.
Don't give him a long term contract though because we are gonna have to pay ETH like 15 million. Don't want to be stuck in that situation for Potter.
2 year contract should be what we try to agree for him with an option of another by the club n
Don't give him a long term contract though because we are gonna have to pay ETH like 15 million. Don't want to be stuck in that situation for Potter.
2 year contract should be what we try to agree for him with an option of another by the club n
Not for me, Clive.
Looked like a rabbit in headlights at Chelsea. Has nothing to him that players will go out of their way to respect.
Looked like a rabbit in headlights at Chelsea. Has nothing to him that players will go out of their way to respect.
Not so long ago Potter would have been rated a better coach than Eddie Howe......just saying.
I think that committee's purpose is for Ineos to have a 2-to-1 voting power on footballing decisions. We'll see, though.
Ugh. Why does this club make terrible decisions at every turn?
Im tired.
Im tired.
That was before he moved to Chelsea and shat the bed.
Jim isn't even here and ETH is still the manager. Don't panic yet.
Yep. These dogshit players would eat him alive if he takes up the job.
Not going to happen, lots of reasons but mostly because we're not going to sack ETH this season.
Thank feck it’s just The Sun
Ratcliffe isn’t in and we’ve been linked before.
I'm bored of the cycle. Back Ten Hag FFS.
He's coming in next week™
It would be typical of United that we hire a manager who's previous two teams have struggled to score goals, when we're struggling to score goals and then we end up sacking him in two years because we haven't scored enough goals.
Because he walked into a shitshow
The problem for Potter would be that he would be walking into another shit show and I'm not sure throwing him to the proverbial lions who have let down so many managers is the right thing to do.
The other problem is that his teams have struggled to score goals and we also do the same, we might be easier on the eye but we need some goals.
If there is an actual plan behind him though it might at least steady the ship, if we get players in that suit his style and work towards that we won't look a patchwork team. But that goes for any manager we get.
The other problem is that his teams have struggled to score goals and we also do the same, we might be easier on the eye but we need some goals.
If there is an actual plan behind him though it might at least steady the ship, if we get players in that suit his style and work towards that we won't look a patchwork team. But that goes for any manager we get.
Not buying that. Especially given his spell at Chelsea.
If you’re going to hire a Brighton manager, surely you hire the one that was better?
We are a shitshow
If Jimmy wants to make sure to begin his reign as terrible as possible this would be a great way to do it.
To be fair I think potter is the only manager who we’d be able to ruthlessly sack if it didn’t work out. A sort of probation period. He has potential but with his Chelsea stint we could act fast if it didn’t work. If we brought in someone else (for example Di Zerbi who is similar quality to Potter) we’d be inclined to give a 4 year contract.
He wont last 2 years and well be looking for yet another new boss.
Make the right changes at upper level to give any new manager coming in a chance.
Make the right changes at upper level to give any new manager coming in a chance.
Two of the greatest.
I think plucky underdog punching above their weight is his level. Brighton suited him perfectly in the PL, he was a fool to go to Chelsea. I said similar at the time.
It was a similar story at Midgetland making waves in the Europa.
Managing an unwieldy behemoth like Chelsea/United is a totally different task, and I think it’s beyond him. He is Moyes level and United need Elite to turn thinks around.
You may very well be right, but I don’t think that his Chelsea stint is the best to make a definitive judgement on that. If we were to bring him in, with Jimmy B setting up a proper structure around him, I would not be disappointed with that choice .
If he gets the support of a much stronger football operation I'm not against it, although that could be said for a lot of managers I guess.
He needs to be able to move on several players though, or will just have the same problems we currently have.
He needs to be able to move on several players though, or will just have the same problems we currently have.
I want ETH to turn things around and I want to see what he can do with our players without europe.
However if we are to sack him and I think he will be gone this weekend then sure, lets get Potter.
We are that low, im sorry but United are not this top end elite european football club anymore, we need to rebuild from the very bottom and I think that Potter as a sensible head coach who gets the league, gets the press, understands the size of united would be a smart move.
Rumour is INEOS wants to move to more of a Head Coach type role with a structure above him and Id like to see it, I think we need to take our rose tinted glasses off and realise its not working.
We are currently in our Madrid phase from about 8 years ago where they tried many managers some from the lower league with potential some from obscure places. Lets give it a go and if it doesnt work, get rid quickly.
However if we are to sack him and I think he will be gone this weekend then sure, lets get Potter.
We are that low, im sorry but United are not this top end elite european football club anymore, we need to rebuild from the very bottom and I think that Potter as a sensible head coach who gets the league, gets the press, understands the size of united would be a smart move.
Rumour is INEOS wants to move to more of a Head Coach type role with a structure above him and Id like to see it, I think we need to take our rose tinted glasses off and realise its not working.
We are currently in our Madrid phase from about 8 years ago where they tried many managers some from the lower league with potential some from obscure places. Lets give it a go and if it doesnt work, get rid quickly.