Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job

Wouldn't be inspiring and I doubt he could get the players onside to be honest, but I could see a scenario where it works too? It should be all about what they can do with their coaching ultimately. Could he provide enough of a boost short term to compete for top 4 this season? The new people will be in a weird position with it being January almost and there be plenty of chances to rescue our season (they may feel the manager needs to be changed first), but they likely can't get an ideal person in. So it's about the balance of who can you get who is on the list but can come now, or do you just get this person with a successor plan being worked on in another 18 months when we are in a better position? I'm not sure if we are at that point where it's untenable with Ten Hag yet, but we'll see how the next few weeks go.
 
Imagine Potter being appointed as United Manager! That would officially be the end of the club.
 
bosnian_red said:
Wouldn't be inspiring and I doubt he could get the players onside to be honest, but I could see a scenario where it works too? It should be all about what they can do with their coaching ultimately. Could he provide enough of a boost short term to compete for top 4 this season? The new people will be in a weird position with it being January almost and there be plenty of chances to rescue our season (they may feel the manager needs to be changed first), but they likely can't get an ideal person in. So it's about the balance of who can you get who is on the list but can come now, or do you just get this person with a successor plan being worked on in another 18 months when we are in a better position? I'm not sure if we are at that point where it's untenable with Ten Hag yet, but we'll see how the next few weeks go.
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It's untenable with Ten Hag. His idiotic pressing schemes in big games collapse all too easily and we get cricket scores. We can't really build up against even bottom half teams. Injured players coming back isn't going to do anything for that.

Potter I believe is better at organizing. His big problem was the attack but that could be a Chelsea problem too. Not many better interims than Potter right now for me. Stylistically very similar to ten hag.

As you say the only issue is managing big egos like Case, Varane, Rashford etc
 
I do wonder what Potter is actually capable of. When he was at Brighton, he was very high on my list of managers who deserved a crack at one of the top jobs. His time at Chelsea was nothing short of a disaster, but then Lampard and Poch couldn't get much out of those players either, so who knows really?
 
So we hire a manager who is comfortably worse than the one we have now? Makes sense
 
Yes, if it is only an interim position till the end of the season; otherwise a huge NO.
 
Cloud7 said:
I do wonder what Potter is actually capable of. When he was at Brighton, he was very high on my list of managers who deserved a crack at one of the top jobs. His time at Chelsea was nothing short of a disaster, but then Lampard and Poch couldn't get much out of those players either, so who knows really?
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What makes you think he’ll get something out of our players. We’re no better than Chelsea. We’re a joke of a club aswell with overpaid players. If they ain’t gonna listen to ETH and plays his way then I highly doubt they’ll listen to Potter. He’ll be like another Ole to soft.
 
I’d well and truly just give up. If the clubs grand idea is Potter than there’s just no hope
 
Would be a great choice. Surely he learned a lot at Chelsea and what he did with Brighton was amazing. Knows the league inside out. Gives young players a chance, has a system and ideas and plays attractive footie. I'd take him after the Pool game, yes please
 
I think that Potter has been vindicated a little considering how poorly Poch has done and how Brighton are struggling a little bit this season but I'd be wary if I were him about jumping into another job where the club is a mess.

He's not a bad manager but sometimes it's best to be patient as a few bad career moves can unfortunately ruin the rep you've worked so hard to build up.
 
Exactly what I'd expect from Ratcliffe. I imagine he'd be in, asking with a load of bang average British players to go alongside Maguire, Rashford, McTominay and pals.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
Exactly what I'd expect from Ratcliffe. I imagine he'd be in, asking with a load of bang average British players to go alongside Maguire, Rashford, McTominay and pals.
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Exactly. I have a feeling the likes of Rashford, Maguire, Mount will become practically untouchable under Ratcliffe. Proper English lads and all that.

God forbid!
 
Telsim said:
Exactly. I have a feeling the likes of Rashford, Maguire, Mount will become practically untouchable under Ratcliffe. Proper English lads and all that.

God forbid!
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I think this is rubbish. Based off one headline. He is ruthless for success and will bring in experienced people to run the club. We will overhaul scouting and improve use of data. Its not amateur hour anymore.
 
Sometimes it's hard to tell how much of a team's success is due to the manager and how much due to the overall club structure and setup. Was Potter great for Brighton? Or did the solid framework and personnel in place mask deficiencies that were exposed when he came to a more ambitious club owned by a bunch of rank amateurs with more money than football knowledge? Our owners and their yes men are not going to provide a lot of cover for him
 
At this low point where we are, I'd take him but only until the end of the season.
Otherwise hire a serious manager, if we can spend that much money on bad players I'm sure we can a attract a good manager at least for the salary if not for the job conditions.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
Exactly what I'd expect from Ratcliffe. I imagine he'd be in, asking with a load of bang average British players to go alongside Maguire, Rashford, McTominay and pals.
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You really think Ratcliffe will have a say/veto on the transfers? He has a team and a setup for that, that analyses which players are a fit and I very much doubt a criteria or a skill is "british".

As a business man, you'd think he understands the value of listening to experts instead of interfering too much. I don't think you get to his spot if you don't listen to experts much.
 
The only positive I can see from this is that everyone has zero or below zero expectations of Potter. So if he manages to achieve something, it will be viewed as a huge success.

If not, I don't think a lot of our fans will lose any sleep over this.

ROFLUTION said:
You really think Ratcliffe will have a say/veto on the transfers? He has a team and a setup for that, that analyses which players are a fit and I very much doubt a criteria or a skill is "british".

As a business man, you'd think he understands the value of listening to experts instead of interfering too much. I don't think you get to his spot if you don't listen to experts much.
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When he first joined Nice, he signed a lot of bang average past it British players on inflated wages(sound familiar?) before they realized that this approach won't work and had to move them.

According to reports he is interested in "creating a British core" in our team. Even the manager that we are linked to replace ETH is British.
 
ArmaDino said:
The only positive I can see from this is that everyone has zero or below zero expectations of Potter. So if he manages to achieve something, it will be viewed as a huge success.

If not, I don't think a lot of our fans will lose any sleep over this.


When he first joined Nice, he signed a lot of bang average past it British players on inflated wages(sound familiar?) before they realized that this approach won't work and had to move them.

According to reports he is interested in "creating a British core" in our team. Even the manager that we are linked to replace ETH is British.
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No he didn't? Take a look at all seasons since 19' when he took over. 2 english players out of maybe 100 ins and outs.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ogc...417/plus/?saison_id=2020&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=
 
Von Mistelroum said:
Exactly what I'd expect from Ratcliffe. I imagine he'd be in, asking with a load of bang average British players to go alongside Maguire, Rashford, McTominay and pals.
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Telsim said:
Exactly. I have a feeling the likes of Rashford, Maguire, Mount will become practically untouchable under Ratcliffe. Proper English lads and all that.

God forbid!
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The Daily Mail and similar trash papers write these "Brexit FC" types of stories for fans like you. They know what a certain section of the fan base will be riled up by and it's easy clicks for them.
 
Rojofiam said:
The Daily Mail and similar trash papers write these "Brexit FC" type of stories for fans like you. They know what a certain section of the fan base will be riled up by and it's easy clicks for them.
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And honestly what's wrong in targeting best of British talent when English football in terms of producing talent is second to none as things stand right now.
 
I quite like Potter, but surely he’s the sort of manager/coach you’d think about after you’ve sorted out your recruitment etc.

I don’t think his spell at Chelsea was the shambles some like to portray it as. They played ok football, looked pretty solid and were generally in control of games. They couldn’t score for toffee though. Things actually weren’t that different than they had been during his “successful” stint at Brighton.

Maybe he was just unlucky with crap forwards at both Brighton and Chelsea? He’s done nothing to suggest he can suddenly rock up at United and get our hopeless lot banging ‘em in though.
 
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