Yeah, I'm not sure. He has everything perfect at Brighton. The club loves him, the players love him, and the fans love him. They're on the same page when it comes to transfers, and it seems like a very well-oiled machine. Chelsea are just a basket case. If he goes there, I'd give him 2-3 seasons and he's out.
Graham Potter appointed Chelsea manager
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Yeah, I'm not sure. He has everything perfect at Brighton. The club loves him, the players love him, and the fans love him. They're on the same page when it comes to transfers, and it seems like a very well-oiled machine. Chelsea are just a basket case. If he goes there, I'd give him 2-3 seasons and he's out.
Will be stupid of him to abandon the project he built over the last couple of years.
But then coaching a top 4 team is dream come true for any manager. Though his football is good, his methods may take time to see effect. Not sure if Chelsea hiearchy has so much patience
But then coaching a top 4 team is dream come true for any manager. Though his football is good, his methods may take time to see effect. Not sure if Chelsea hiearchy has so much patience
Lampard doesn't have the potential and ability Potter has though. Could be the British manager since Fergie.
Lasting 3 seasons at Chelsea would be an incredible success.
Generous.
Ten Hag did the same
Are they really going for De Zerbi or it’s just an Italian pizza-news served hot to his numerous fans over my shores??
In my opinion Potter takes it. I don't think he'd have doubts. Managers have to have some sort of confidence that they're the one going into a job to be a difference maker.
Also, just because they've axed Tuchel who is not in good shape as a manager with recent form and his depressing demeanour, it doesn't mean they're going to be trigger happy with their own choice. This isn't Abramovich anymore so it makes no sense to overlay the same type of thinking.
The thing I question is why they didn't appoint their own man in the summer. Why would you wait 5 games?
Also, just because they've axed Tuchel who is not in good shape as a manager with recent form and his depressing demeanour, it doesn't mean they're going to be trigger happy with their own choice. This isn't Abramovich anymore so it makes no sense to overlay the same type of thinking.
The thing I question is why they didn't appoint their own man in the summer. Why would you wait 5 games?
The remotest possibility Chelsea fail to finish top 4 Potter will be sacked faster than a rat up a drain pipe.
While I know what you meant, Klopp's Liverpool have only ever finished behind Guardiola's City when it comes to possession over a season.
Mourinho is the only manager to complete 3 seasons in the Abramovich era.
If Brighton accepted "formal" talks then "informal" already happened and he will meet Boehly for paperwork and a meal.
Would be a good appointment for Chelsea, probably the best they can get out there however risky it may be. The potential upside (as was with us and ten Hag) is the biggest.
Would be a good appointment for Chelsea, probably the best they can get out there however risky it may be. The potential upside (as was with us and ten Hag) is the biggest.
This is potentially where Potter goes the way of Mike Walker/Gerry Francis, etc.
Be fascinating to see if he can take the next step.
Be fascinating to see if he can take the next step.
Seems bizarre if Chelsea interview Potter and no one else
Very uncharacteristic of Chelsea to go for someone like Potter, especially in mid-season. I'd probably be more worried if they went for Poch, who would be the more logical choice given his pedigree. He only got depressed after taking Spurs as far as he could, and their owner refused to refresh the squad.
Took a while for it to click at Brighton and he doesn't have the benefit of Ashworth's recruitment this time around. Would be very risky for him.
Don't understand why anyone is saying its a risk for him. Worst case scenario is he flops massively and then ends up back at another Premier League side.
The poster saying there will be plenty of options for him at the end of the season is nonsense though. It’s not like a player where he can choose which club he wants to go to who are after him. Managers have to take opportunities when they arise. It’s very unlikely there will be a vacancy at any of the top clubs at the end of the season. These vacancies tend to become available mid season after a sacking.
Exactly. Even if he has a shocker he’ll still get a decent club again. Look at Moyes after his disastrous spell at Utd.
Not that I followed Brighton that closely since Potter took over but in 2019/20 and 2020/21, though they did finish low in the table, they were really unlucky and I remember them always having better xG than their opponents but losing/drawing games. Last season and this one are different as they started converting those chances and getting results. They've been impressive team for a long time now.
If he doesn’t take chelsea job now, why would he take it in 18 months. It’ll be the same owners.
I think he was more suited to United or Arsenal but with both us and them seemingly happy with our managers he might as well try his luck with Chelsea.
He is being majorly overrated in this thread, people are making him sound like prime Sir Alex but he is a very talented manager and hopefully his next club gives him time to build.
In my opinion it would have been better for him to make the step up at a “safer” club abroad to give him champions league experience and able to coach better players without the intense spot light of the premier league. A Dortmund level club would’ve been good. But I guess when a two time champions league winning club based in London that has unlimited funds comes up, it’s hard to say no.
He is being majorly overrated in this thread, people are making him sound like prime Sir Alex but he is a very talented manager and hopefully his next club gives him time to build.
In my opinion it would have been better for him to make the step up at a “safer” club abroad to give him champions league experience and able to coach better players without the intense spot light of the premier league. A Dortmund level club would’ve been good. But I guess when a two time champions league winning club based in London that has unlimited funds comes up, it’s hard to say no.
SouthGate is arguably 4 months away from being sacked. I would have liked to see him at England but I guess you don’t get what you want in this world
He's a very talented coach and been excellent for Brighton but I think there's a lot of misconceptions about his time at Brighton, given their strong start this season. They've managed decent placings in the league due to their defence, not their attack. In his 3 seasons they've averaged 40 goals a season, which is marginally above the relegated teams. Burnley averaged 37 goals a season in the same period before being relegated. Not only that they went 12 league games without a win last season, and lost 6 games on the bounce later in the season.
He did underperform his xG a few times in that time, which matches up with a lot of what you see when you watch them - they often make chances but can't finish them. So maybe with better players he could both create and finish more chances? But I seriously doubt he'll go to Chelsea and have them playing champagne football in a short period of time. He's been a builder and that takes patience - exactly what they didn't show with Tuchel.
Yes and this is my hope!
I suspect with Tuchel that it is more of a matter of a personality clash with the new regime than anything else. Chelsea are nowhere near being in trouble yet and it appears he's been sacked for non-sporting reasons.
Have you guys been linked with other managers? I took a peek over at north stand chat and a lot of them seem to want Ange.
Yeah I was hoping he would get England job
He probably does have enough credit in the bank to be fair. It can take a while to rebuild yourself if you do go to a big job too early though.
I don't want to diminish the opportunity because at the end of the day, its bloody Chelsea. He would be silly to not hear what they have to say.
This is what I was hoping for and kind of anticipating
he was the man I wanted to replace daft bore Southgate.The booing off the pitch that lots have mentioned has been massively over exaggerated.
it was at half time in a match against Leeds when we’d battered them but failed to score, which was becoming quite common. He was booed by a tiny minority of idiots.
it was condemned by the vast majority of Brighton fans as almost all of realise he is the best manager we have ever had and this is the most successful any of us have seen our club in our life times.
He is loved at Brighton!
I haven’t seen anything from anything from any journo I’d trust so it’s all talk and based on if we lose him. I’m liking the Athletic reporting right now which says you’re talking to him and Poch!
It ain't that much of a risk. What do people think these upcoming managers should wait for?
The perfect club? A club with perfect owners, the right squad, a demonstrable history of patience, suited to his style? Come on, in football it rarely happens, there are always reasons a manager is sacked and a job is available. He could get sacked by Brighton in a years time for all we know and how good would the Chelsea job look then?
A bird in the hand...
The perfect club? A club with perfect owners, the right squad, a demonstrable history of patience, suited to his style? Come on, in football it rarely happens, there are always reasons a manager is sacked and a job is available. He could get sacked by Brighton in a years time for all we know and how good would the Chelsea job look then?
A bird in the hand...
Yeh exactly. I think he'd be foolish not to take it. Everyone is saying wait for Liverpool, City or United but there's no guarantee they will come up and if they did he's far from guaranteed the job.
Football can change quickly. If his profile is high enough at the minute to get the Chelsea job he should jump at it.
Come on Graham, sign the contract. Chop chop.
It's not really the death sentence people make it out to be to take the Chelsea job. Ancelotti, Conte, Mourinho and others have all come and gone there and still gotten many top jobs afterwards. As long as you aren't a total Moyes-level disaster, just getting your foot in the door and being associated with the big jobs, even if it's just for a 2 year stint could be a hugely beneficial move for his career.
Conversely I strongly disagree with the idea of waiting for Pep to leave City. Do you really want to be the guy to follow Pep? That's way more pressure, kind of like when Fergie retired. Almost better to move into a team that is a little bit of a mess.
Conversely I strongly disagree with the idea of waiting for Pep to leave City. Do you really want to be the guy to follow Pep? That's way more pressure, kind of like when Fergie retired. Almost better to move into a team that is a little bit of a mess.
All the reports outside of the athletic seem to suggest Chelsea really, really want Potter but will speak to Poch and others in the name of due diligence.
Hopefully he stays were he is, he’s been building something special at Brighton it’d be a shame if he left it now.