Graeme Sourness | Retires from “punditry”

He only ever says we're a big club, a great club, historic blah blah blah when he's about to stick the boot in to one of our players or the manager. I don't know what cool aid you've been drinking but he's never impartial about United.
I think we are pretty good at that. Just read this forum.
 
I still don't see what that has to do with Souness talking nonsense.
I don't know how you can just criticise Souness for something you (and others) are doing do on daily basis. I guess this has only to do with him being former Liverpool player.
 
I don't know how you can just criticise Souness for something you (and others) are doing do on daily basis. I guess this has only to do with him being former Liverpool player.

It's because he clearly doesn't watch our games and invents stuff off the top of his head.

  • Martinez isn't good on the ball
  • ETH promised Ronaldo game time to keep him at United.

Two recent examples of pure fantasy used as the basis for his arguments. It's a bit disingenuous to attempt equate that a nebulous point like well we all criticise players too.
 
I do like listening to him even if I disagree with his stance. He used to piss me off years ago when he had a massive hatred for Totti. Used to criticise the guy for being loyal to his club
 
It's because he clearly doesn't watch our games and invents stuff off the top of his head.

  • Martinez isn't good on the ball
  • ETH promised Ronaldo game time to keep him at United.

Two recent examples of pure fantasy used as the basis for his arguments. It's a bit disingenuous to attempt equate that a nebulous point like well we all criticise players too.
I don't agree with him on Martinez but does that make him bad? I still respect his opinion and he has been right in lot of things. When it comes to Ronaldo, what you write can be pure fantasy. Unless you were at their meeting. You are saying that it didn't happen, if I read you correctly. But you actually don't know. Neither does Sounes if he doesn't have any proof. So how are you better then Souness in this case?
 
I don't know how you can just criticise Souness for something you (and others) are doing do on daily basis. I guess this has only to do with him being former Liverpool player.
If he said Maguire is too slow for Ten Hags line/tactics that’d be fair/an opinion but he’s not. He’s saying Casemiro is average and Martinez isn’t a good CH… Casemiro is clearly not average and Martinez (over last dozen games especially) has been fantastic.
 
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I don't agree with him on Martinez but does that make him bad? I still respect his opinion and he has been right in lot of things. When it comes to Ronaldo, what you write can be pure fantasy. Unless you were at their meeting. You are saying that it didn't happen, if I read you correctly. But you actually don't know. Neither does Sounes if he doesn't have any proof. So how are you better then Souness in this case?

The Martinez comments show him someone who's already made his mind up and doesn't let evidence get in the way and/or hasn't bothered to watch our games to obtain an informed opinion.

Also on the Ronaldo thing he set forth a hypothesis which is unlikely to be true because Ronaldo didn't have to be persuaded to stay. There were no offers which he should know. He then used that ill-informed hypothesis to beat ETH and the Club for 'poorly handling' the situation.

Both of these examples tell me his opinion isn't to be trusted. How is that so hard to understand?
 
He keeps talking about Ten Hag making promises to Ronaldo about playing time then disrespecting him by breaking the promises, but when he's questioned about it he says it's just a feeling he's got.
The man is clueless!
Plus even if Ten Hag planned to use Ronaldo as his first choice striker, if he's not performing then he can't just keep picking him on name and reputation.
 
He keeps talking about Ten Hag making promises to Ronaldo about playing time then disrespecting him by breaking the promises, but when he's questioned about it he says it's just a feeling he's got.
The man is clueless!
Plus even if Ten Hag planned to use Ronaldo as his first choice striker, if he's not performing then he can't just keep picking him on name and reputation.
He also keeps saying that in five years no one will even remember who Eric ten Haag is. Unbelievably disrespectful to a fellow professional, and also both ignorant and arrogant.
 
He's done it again.

Sabitzer's foul was bad and probably should be a red but his arrogance always cracks me up.

I swear I want this rancid cnut to stop being given any airtime.
 
It’s always telling what the other ‘pundits’ have to say on the matter. Robbie Keane stayed silent & Jimmy was chuckling his way through a non answer.

He’s placed on our games to piss us off. It worked when we were crap cause he got to get his ridiculous takes off but it’s truly laughable recently.
 
"They should have played the second half with ten men..." in 5.... 4... 3... 2....
 
really is time for sky to put this fossil out to pasture - are there any of his era doing punditry? Is boring Hoddle still at BT?
 
He went to "do him" according to the senile old cnut.
The guy is such a plank. To blatantly claim the player has gone in to hurt him with so much conviction just shows what a tool he is because that’s probably what he would do in that situation.
 
It’s not the first time he’s claimed a player has tried to ‘do’ someone. It’s not the 80s anymore Graham you cnut, it’s very rare you’re going to find a player trying to ‘do’ someone. It was nothing more than a reckless challenge that deserved a yellow.
 
The guy is such a plank. To blatantly claim the player has gone in to hurt him with so much conviction just shows what a tool he is because that’s probably what he would do in that situation.

He was fuming, practically foaming at the mouth. He can't hide his hatred towards us, hope the cnut lapped up that victory.

We got away with the challenge but it's evened itself out with the Casimero imo.
 
I'm sure I just heard him say Harry Kane is England's only world class player?

Literally minutes after watching what we all just watched!
 
I find his bitterness an absolute joy. Imagine being that consumed by total and utter bitterness :lol:
 
He's great indicator we're doing great. Imagine if we had Pogba or someone like him around :lol: . He'd need to sleep in A&E for fear of popping a nerve.
 
Don't forget, Casemiro is nothing special and Martinez will never make it in the Premier league :trollface:

He's gone back on the Casemiro comment. He thinks he's the best midfielder in the league now
 
After a win this thread needs to be locked for 24 hours. Get this idiot off the front page.