Sure, I don't agree with him always but I do understand him and his views. One of the better experts out there.
Graeme Sourness | Retires from “punditry”
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I don't understand the hate fest with this guy, seems to be popular enough with those who've worked with and him and a genuinely world class player in his peak, you would think he was some mug playing for a non league team the way some go on ranting about him.
He’ll probably retire, now. Or learn Italian.
Devi chiederti, cosa sta facendo Pogba?
He's an idiot. How about Ukraine qualify (or not qualify) on the pitch, like every other team (aside from the hosts)?
"We can talk about his assists and hairstyles, but what exactly did Pogba do for Ukraine in these past few months?"
Was wondering when the mediamen would start saying that.
Obviously we've not all conducted the research into how well loved he is by everyone he works with that you have, but I'd imagine it's because he's a rabid dyed in the wool scouse loving bitter?
The irony is that a lot of Pool fans hate him too!
I agree with you, think it’s because he’s a scouser
I like him and Keane on the same panel when on Sky.Well pogba isn't safe yet, he did play in sampodria and manage torino once, quite a possibility.
Anyway feast your eyes upon this nightmare scenario
Souness reveals how he almost replaced Ferguson as United's manager in late 80s
Souness reveals how he almost replaced Ferguson as United's manager in late 80s
Added reason to like him? Seeing how he oversaw their descent into mediocrity
Yeah, they don't really have the best takes in any shape or form (Keane is better in that regard) but I enjoy them, they're like relics from a bygone era.I agree with you, think it’s because he’s a scouser
I'm sorry but this is a senior moment - or something.
Admirable sentiment and all - but no.
The upside we all can appreciate, though, is that he ain't pure evil (as certain Pogpologists claimed he was).
Admirable sentiment and all - but no.
The upside we all can appreciate, though, is that he ain't pure evil (as certain Pogpologists claimed he was).
I think his playing career is fairly irrelevant when it comes to things he says as a pundit. Do you give more value to the opinions of folk like Matt Le Tissier and Paul Merson because they were good players?
When it comes to their opinions on their area of expertise i can be interested in their takes, not necessarily agree with it but still find it interesting.
I understand that most of the time good players can be really shite pundits as they just don't understand what made them special, but even then i feel they still have some valuable insight to give from time to time.
He played and managed in Italy; probably already speaks the language.
Thought his half-time and post-match analysis last night was spot on. Miles better than Boyd, and the BT boys for Saturday’s final.
I'd like to see Wales in a World cup , haven't been to one since 1958. And the Scots robbed us a few times any way 77 and 85. We got a tough game on Sunday , I was hoping for a Scots equaliser for Extra time. Ukraine were the better team.
Beautiful sentiment. Wonder why we've got to ridicule anyone who expresses an ounce of compassion
I think most people who aren't swayed by blatant agendas will be against this. Why don't we just promote them to the knock out stages too while we're at it?
I wonder how much a 25yo Souness would be worth in todays market?
There would not be much change out of 80mil!
There would not be much change out of 80mil!
He speaks Italian pretty well already.
I found this beauty in his Wikipedia page
Don't we all?
He was Better than rice for starters
Robbo was his only superior around at that time.I found this beauty in his Wikipedia page
Don't we all?
He was Better than rice for starters
Wish we could get someone half as good as either of them.
He's clearly not a bad person. I remember the impassioned speech he made to Richards on Sky during the whole BLM thing. He clearly has a heart.
I find this kind of tribalism a bit nasty when it gets personal.
The worst part when he was accused on here of being a racist, all because he deigned to criticise a certain Paul Pogba. Which is now a Redcafe sport.
As a player (I only remember him when he was player/manager at Rangers. But I've seen a tons of matches involving him, with Liverpool and Scotland) he was obviously world class. If Rice is worth £120m then Souness would easily be worth £200m+.
Now, his views on Ukraine is what tickles me. He's passionate about Ukraine being independent (and existing) but he's fine with England running his own nation. Just seems weird.
I find this kind of tribalism a bit nasty when it gets personal.
The worst part when he was accused on here of being a racist, all because he deigned to criticise a certain Paul Pogba. Which is now a Redcafe sport.
As a player (I only remember him when he was player/manager at Rangers. But I've seen a tons of matches involving him, with Liverpool and Scotland) he was obviously world class. If Rice is worth £120m then Souness would easily be worth £200m+.
Now, his views on Ukraine is what tickles me. He's passionate about Ukraine being independent (and existing) but he's fine with England running his own nation. Just seems weird.
Huh? Scotland has been united with England for several centuries and Russia are invading Ukraine right now.
It would be weird if he felt there should be any correlations between these two separate matters
You are seriously comparing the modern England-Scotland relationship with what’s happening in Ukraine? Edward I‘s treatment of Scotland would be a better comparison.
The Union of Great Britain wasn't a democratic act. When there's riots, up and down the country, with the majority of people opposing said political decision, it's generally not welcomed.
The requisite of independence doesn't always have to be oppression. A total of 65 countries have gained income from The United Kingdom.
SAF doesn't escape criticism. He's always talking about his favourite book "How Scots invented the modern world.". Aye, alright Fergie, we invented the modern world but we're incapable of being a separate nation In said modern world. Make sense.
We were wrong about him.
Should be given a round of applause at Old Trafford
Times like these when you need to realise to stop always defending the club/players and look at things more objectively. He was completely right about Pogba the whole time and we didn’t see it, purely down to tribalism.
I used to dislike him, same as many on here. But when we lost 5-0 to Liverpool at OT he was one of the pundits, and there wasn't an ounce of gloating in his post-match punditry. He must've been buzzing but you'd never have known. He remained totally respectful.
Same with the 4-0 at the end of the season. If anything, he sounded angry on our behalf because we were so far below the standards the club should be setting. Must say, I respected him for that.
Same with the 4-0 at the end of the season. If anything, he sounded angry on our behalf because we were so far below the standards the club should be setting. Must say, I respected him for that.
Always said he was one of the better pundits on Sky
Graeme Sweetness?
Souness, in 1984
I know as fans we (quite rightly) defend our own players but it always amazed me that people couldn't see what Souness was getting at with Pogba regardless of what their own personal opinions were of the player. Souness, like Roy Keane, comes from an era where a midfielder's most basic requirement was not to lose possession cheaply and to also set the standard for workrate and commitment. Also those types of midfielders were supposed to really do a bit of everything to a very good standard, even if they didn't quite reach the very top heights in some of those attributes.
It's pretty fecking obvious why he didn't rate Pogba and yet people refused to see it, preferring to make it seem like he was just bitter or something worse.
It's pretty fecking obvious why he didn't rate Pogba and yet people refused to see it, preferring to make it seem like he was just bitter or something worse.