Keane being the same as Souness? I have seen it all. Go back to batmobile, youre drunk.You obviously forgot his analysis at the previous Euros when he was waxing lyrical about Billy Gilmour after dominating the England midfield.
It was genuine hatred. He just resented the fact that Pogba was a genuine generational talent but his application didn't match it.
As a United fan I resented Pogba for it.
Some people even called Souness a racist because of it. Which is nonsense. Souness just doesn't like slackers. I remember him treatment of McCoist when he was Rangers manager.
It's funny to me that so many people get hot under the collar when it comes to pundits. People just don't like honesty. He was 100% correct about Paul Pogba but you'll still have people saying that he had a hidden agenda.
Do a Google search of "Roy Keane's scathing rant on Paul pogba". Keane says that Pogba Is a problem. That he doesn't lead by example. That Pogba doesn't make his team better, he plays for himself. He doesn't run back.
If you agree with Keane's assessment then you have to agree with Souness's, as they're the same.
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To be fair, I’d say Keane and Souness are not that dissimilar when it comes to their expectations of players, and their contempt for lads who don’t work hard.
Souness just lacks Keanes wit and comic timing. Where Keane will cut someone to the bone and make it sound hilarious, Souness just comes across as dour and cantankerous.
Souness just lacks Keanes wit and comic timing. Where Keane will cut someone to the bone and make it sound hilarious, Souness just comes across as dour and cantankerous.
I stopped listening to 606 when Savage and Sutton started doing it, especially Sutton. He just purposely says stuff slightly controversial to get more listeners or interactions on social media, and well aware that United have the biggest fan base/easiest target.
To be fair the entire media went way overboard in its criticism of Pogba. He actually from a deeper position on the pitch averaged a goal or assist every 195 mins for us. His performances week in week out were nowhere near as bad as made out in the media.You obviously forgot his analysis at the previous Euros when he was waxing lyrical about Billy Gilmour after dominating the England midfield.
It was genuine hatred. He just resented the fact that Pogba was a genuine generational talent but his application didn't match it.
As a United fan I resented Pogba for it.
Some people even called Souness a racist because of it. Which is nonsense. Souness just doesn't like slackers. I remember him treatment of McCoist when he was Rangers manager.
It's funny to me that so many people get hot under the collar when it comes to pundits. People just don't like honesty. He was 100% correct about Paul Pogba but you'll still have people saying that he had a hidden agenda.
Do a Google search of "Roy Keane's scathing rant on Paul pogba". Keane says that Pogba Is a problem. That he doesn't lead by example. That Pogba doesn't make his team better, he plays for himself. He doesn't run back.
If you agree with Keane's assessment then you have to agree with Souness's, as they're the same.
Where do Souness and Keane differ? Keane has been highly critical of probably every United player over the last 6/7/8 years and rightly so. While Souness is still ranting about a player who left 18 months ago after being one of the better performing players in his time here.
Fog owners are oft forgotten in this debate. Somebody has to fight their corner.
I like Souness a lot more than Carragher. He does revel in us doing badly but Roy did the same to them (remember "bad champions" in 2021?), its normal. He was also right about Pogba. The only time Souness ever really annoyed me was last year after the 7-0 when him and Carragher were like pigs in shit not willing to hear that it was a fluke result.
Yeah its crazy taking things people say about themselves seriously, isn't it?
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Yes we've all heard the quote about Spurs.
He's such an unusual guy very bloody minded. You listen to him and he's so bitter about Fergie, refuses to admit he himself put any more effort or had leadership out of the ordinary.
His best ever United team was hilarious, leaving out Fergie favourites to try and make a point and included players Fergie fell out with like Ince.
But to try and argue Keane isn't pro United and thus a fan of us is just silly.
I think you're conflating the two. I'm not sure anyone said he wasn't pro United but that doesn't mean he's a United fan.
He's played for the club and has an affinity obviously and wants us to do well given our stature and the standards that should be kept here but he's not a fan and never claimed to be. When he's referrered to as a fan he sets the record straight.
It's semantics. You're taking it in a literal supported a club as a kid can only ever support one club style. Whereas most take it in the Rio style of becoming a fan because you were a legend for the club style.
I think the facts, rather than semantics. I'd call Rio a fan with the way he carries on. There's a difference.
The next Pogba
The next Pogba
I don't mind Souness but Souness with Jordan and Deeney, you'd have to pay me to watch that.
I feel I have heard more from Souness since his retirement from punditry than I ever did when he was active.
In any case, I don't think he understands the meaning of selfish.
In any case, I don't think he understands the meaning of selfish.
So he's never watched Ronaldo then.
No chance I'd watch the three of those either.
My thoughts exactly, hard pass
I mind him and I'm not sure I'd watch it with a gun to my head.
As long as he is there to talk shit about Salah then its watchable for me.
Deeney, Jordan and Sourness.
There are no words.
There are no words.
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shag, marry, kill?
I wouldn't watch that even if someone paid for my subscription to The Economist
Well technically the first 4 words are the background of the situation and it's only 4 words about the situation.
So think on Mr Choker. Think on.
We can only hope they all become mute.
Kill, murder, disembowel?
Random bump but we should hire the cnut to ask who not to sign. He's been spot on about Pobga, Casemiro and Onana.
Not exactly. His point was that Casemiro wasn't a great player at Madrid when he clearly was. He was also class during his first few months at United before his legs went.
Yep he suggested Casemiro was only a "steady eddie" when his form here was so superb it had a few (idiots) suggesting we could have a title shot.
I'd hate to hear his take on him now he looks like some oaf brought in from the crowd for a game.
He changed his opinion and went back on the steady Eddie stuff.
He said ETH won't even be remembered at the club after a couple of years. Might be right on that one
Who's hot right now and will get my name in the papers...
If he was a horse, he would have been put down by now.
Got swiftly replaced by Roy Keane as the local grouch. Roy just does so with a bit of charm and charisma.
Criticising him for "not understanding his position" is just plain weird. If there's something that is really, really clear for all to see is how amazingly Mainoo does understand the position, which usually is far from a given for 19 year olds in the middle of the park. It usually comes a few years later. You can criticise his range of pass, his acceleration, etc., his game isn't perfect, but criticising that is seriously deranged.
They shoot horses, don't they?
Don't tell him another black Frenchman has joined United