Is he though?
And still, $80m or whatever is really hard to say no to, if your morals are as dubious as you intentions.
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Is he though?
And still, $80m or whatever is really hard to say no to, if your morals are as dubious as you intentions.
All depends on how much he owes the bookies.
Does anybody care? Seems like most of the people playing are has beens or never were’s exc?
in saying that, I reckon there’s short odds on the likes of Bryson, Beau Hossler etc all heading over there to play. Guys who are not challenging often enough but good golfers who miss too many cuts regularly.
problem for liv is desert courses are not pretty or aesthetic so television numbers will be average.
Offt apparently they tried to get Tiger for near a billion if you believe that clown Greg Norman and he told them to stick it. Probably doesn’t help offering one of the richest athletes in the world money. The only reason I see Phil leaving is he’s broke or owes somebody a lot of money.
in saying that, I reckon there’s short odds on the likes of Bryson, Beau Hossler etc all heading over there to play. Guys who are not challenging often enough but good golfers who miss too many cuts regularly.
problem for liv is desert courses are not pretty or aesthetic so television numbers will be average.
Offt apparently they tried to get Tiger for near a billion if you believe that clown Greg Norman and he told them to stick it. Probably doesn’t help offering one of the richest athletes in the world money. The only reason I see Phil leaving is he’s broke or owes somebody a lot of money.
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Hadn’t realised louy Oosthuizen was in it as well, he’s pretty good to be fair might bet on him winning first event..
If what I heard this morning is true, that they offered Woods 400M (can't remember if they said £ or $) to play in this, then we've arrived at a truly disturbing moment for sport.
I think criticism of the players for signing up is misplaced because let's face it, who wouldn't. In any other walk of life, if someone offers you double your salary for effectively the same job (if anything, possibly a bit more fun and less work) then of course you'll snap their hand off.
But I'm glad Woods has refused it because that would have been a huge nail in the coffin of the PGA and proper golf in general.
I think it's very sad that so much history (the four Majors and so much else) is at real jeopardy but as I've said above, money talks.
Golf isn't my number one sport so I can't talk for the genuine fans but I imagine, or would like to, that they see this as a sad time for the sport and would like to see it go the same way as the European Super League (albeit that might only be a temporary reprieve).
I think criticism of the players for signing up is misplaced because let's face it, who wouldn't. In any other walk of life, if someone offers you double your salary for effectively the same job (if anything, possibly a bit more fun and less work) then of course you'll snap their hand off.
But I'm glad Woods has refused it because that would have been a huge nail in the coffin of the PGA and proper golf in general.
I think it's very sad that so much history (the four Majors and so much else) is at real jeopardy but as I've said above, money talks.
Golf isn't my number one sport so I can't talk for the genuine fans but I imagine, or would like to, that they see this as a sad time for the sport and would like to see it go the same way as the European Super League (albeit that might only be a temporary reprieve).
Na, it’s a bollocks, Saudi just throwing their money about it’s disgusting, courses probably half the standard and field not great either. I can see why the like of McDowell would want to play it because even his best isn’t no where near the standard required for a PGA win, but the like of DJ is disappointing.
I don't really see how the Liv golf thing is sustainable throwing that kind of money about for not even winning a tourney.
It's a bunch of has-beens. Most of those who have gone didnt really have much of a shout to win again on the PGA tour imo. Just one last pay day, can't really fault them, easy money.
I think it'll collapse in a couple years.
It's a bunch of has-beens. Most of those who have gone didnt really have much of a shout to win again on the PGA tour imo. Just one last pay day, can't really fault them, easy money.
I think it'll collapse in a couple years.
On another note was playing yesterday and driver was on point, was about 130 yards away from the pin in the tree line, pulled out a 9 iron and nailed it over the trees, avoided a bunker, onto the green and trickled within 4 foot of the hole. Sun shining, no wind and wiping the grass away from the sweet spot, man I love golf days like that 
On another note was playing yesterday and driver was on point, was about 130 yards away from the pin in the tree line, pulled out a 9 iron and nailed it over the trees, avoided a bunker, onto the green and trickled within 4 foot of the hole. Sun shining, no wind and wiping the grass away from the sweet spot, man I love golf days like that
You'll be getting called up to the Centurion Club
how does 10 million sound?On another note was playing yesterday and driver was on point, was about 130 yards away from the pin in the tree line, pulled out a 9 iron and nailed it over the trees, avoided a bunker, onto the green and trickled within 4 foot of the hole. Sun shining, no wind and wiping the grass away from the sweet spot, man I love golf days like that
What is this sorcery? If I hit a good drive, it's a 100% guarantee the next shot is a top, or a mad hook or slice. Cant hit 2 good shots in a row.
On the green on regulation? You best believe the big 3 Putt is making an appearance.
This is me on par 5s.
I can hit two good shots in a row, but most usually top long irons after a shot with the driver. Every. Damn. Time.
Bomb drive
Top 5 iron 120 yards
Pitch 120 yards to greenside rough or bunker.
Rinse and repeat on par 5s.
Now for the most important part, did you make the putt?On another note was playing yesterday and driver was on point, was about 130 yards away from the pin in the tree line, pulled out a 9 iron and nailed it over the trees, avoided a bunker, onto the green and trickled within 4 foot of the hole. Sun shining, no wind and wiping the grass away from the sweet spot, man I love golf days like that
We’ll say nothing about the putting
Dustin Johnson resigns from PGA............
Wow!
The other names might have been a bit annoying for the PGA, but that is a massive blow.
I will 100% watch the liv golf events. And I’m completely against the breakaway.
I will miss seeing his better half on TV.
Dustin was never much of a thinking man.
" The majors are not run by the PGA Tour and Johnson's victory two years ago in the Masters gives him a lifetime exemption for the tournament at Augusta National. His 2016 US Open triumph guaranteed him a spot in his national championship for 10 years. His Masters win also gives him a five-year exemption for The Open and US PGA Championship."
Pretty much decided it here, and I can't blame him. Mickelson's in the same boat.... why stick on the PGA grinding away and probably missing cuts, for an absolutely horrifically less amount of money. Prestige? The prestige is in the majors....
Shit's gonna hit the fan when the tournaments oddly pull these invites though. Because DJ definitely still wants more majors.
Pretty much decided it here, and I can't blame him. Mickelson's in the same boat.... why stick on the PGA grinding away and probably missing cuts, for an absolutely horrifically less amount of money. Prestige? The prestige is in the majors....
Shit's gonna hit the fan when the tournaments oddly pull these invites though. Because DJ definitely still wants more majors.
Would be amusing to see these pros having to qualify for the US Open in a couple of years.
Why? So you're not taking sports washing cash from evil cnuts, when you're already worth more money than you'll ever need.
And at least for DJ, he might not mind it. He's been a major champion and knowing his different lifestyle, his family are okay with this.
He's done very well, top player who can play less, great chance to win, and will get paid significantly more if he wins or not. And he's well aware of his exemptions as a former major champion or via his sponsors.
Eyes are on the USGA/PGA Tour to see how they react now.
Phil gets to be the big time guy and just make it more of himself to a more international audience. And he has made it known how he doesn't like the PGAs image rights and he's very money/image/public persona driven. Bit of a narcissist. And it beats playing in the Champions (Seniors) Tour.
He certainly is no rocket surgeon. *
You can create prestige, which is ultimately what the LIV tour will do. Creative marketing, pretty much unlimited resources and a swath of top 50 players in the world will soon determine what is and what isn't prestigious. Le Tournoi was just an exhibition tournament, but at the time was revered as some sort of massive event due to the countries and players taking part.
It will be interesting to see Augusta's stance on this. They do not really care about the money right now as their exclusivity guarantees the success, but if the worlds best players decide to devalue the masters and not play in it anymore? Don't think theres any way they will bar players from competing, whereas the PGA and US open will more than likely find a way to stop people competing who chose to go and play on LIV.
Don’t think any golfer in LIV that’s eligible to play at Augusta will willingly skip it. Augusta also embraces a truly international field which leads me to believe they will still go off world rankings to fill spots regardless of which tour they are on.
One question I have is how points, if any, will be given to those who exclusively play on the LIV tour. Is a victory there worth as much as a victory on the PGA Tour? The Euro PGA Tour? The Australasian?
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The article I read on ESPN also says that these guys will be ineligible for the Ryder Cup as one of the requirements is to be a member of the PGA.
Anyways, like others have said I do not see this being sustainable in the long term. If the PGA plays hard ball with sponsors it will be hard for these events to get on TV, and if that happens I can't see how this is sustainable from a financial perspective, even for the Saudi's, in the long term.
Anyways, like others have said I do not see this being sustainable in the long term. If the PGA plays hard ball with sponsors it will be hard for these events to get on TV, and if that happens I can't see how this is sustainable from a financial perspective, even for the Saudi's, in the long term.
Due to the time difference, there will never be a conflict with the tour, but there’s very few channels that would be able to broadcast any events live. If the PGA leans on The Golf Channel to not show anything live, that would basically destroy any ability to capture an American TV market.
Can believe McDowell actually came out with this shit, funny and sad at the same time..,
“It was reprehensible” followed by “We’re proud to help them”..
Staggering self awareness.
Straight cash, homie.
Some more context…
I assume all players signing for Newcastle will be subject to this same backlash? Doubt it.
Don’t see the issue with any of this tbh. PGA Tour is an incredibly dated, poor format.
Don’t see the issue with any of this tbh. PGA Tour is an incredibly dated, poor format.
How is the PGA Tour ‘incredibly dated & poor?’
Because it has very little significance in comparison to the Majors. The Majors are all that matter in golf. The best players are hardly ever playing at the same time on the tour, diluting the quality and interest significantly.
The top level of professional golf should always have the best possible field at any given time but with the way it’s structured it protects old timers like a boys club, younger talents don’t get a look in unless they perform incredibly well on the Kornferry tour because you have so many players who are protected with various bullshit exemptions.
And this shit show in the desert is better?
If anything the LIV tour will only appeal to the old timers because they need big names to grow from a marketing perspective.
Players Championship
Arnold Palmer Invitational
Memorial tournament
WT Open
FedEx Cup
LIV can’t even match one of the above
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It’s the same in a lot of ways but I think as it’s such a new concept in golf, there’s always going to be more scrutiny. A proper rival to the PGA tour is a great thing in my opinion and I will 100% watch all LIV events, I just wish it wasn’t the saudis bankrolling it.
You do realise the events are all over the world right? They aren't playing the events in the middle east.
Those are good events, why? Because they have strong fields. The events themselves do little for a players legacy. The FedEx cup means absolutely nothing in the bigger picture of golf.
LIV appeals to the has beens right now, because why wouldn't it? Long term though they will get the best players, if they keep going and are willing to sink billions into it.
Not yet, but will be interesting to see how it turns out. From what I understand, there are an awful lot of American politicians heavily involved at some of the private clubs across the country and ergo, have influence with the PGA. Be interesting to see which way they lean.